Art Pipes or F.I headers
 

Still have yet to buy my 370z, but plan on doing so in the months to come, I'm doing all my due diligence ahead of getting the car, well.. I'm thinking of adding boltons + uprev tune. So far the list goes like this:

-Stillen Gen3 Intakes
-Fast Intetions 18" catback

-Motordyne Art Pipes or Fast Intentions LTH????:argue:

Opinions welcome on the setup..

I searched thru a couple of threads, havent really seen a comparision between the two, but from what I've read it all comes down to the LTH getting the job done earlier in the power band.. final numbers I think would be around the same; not to mention art pipes cost a lot less, is the extra money worth it on the LTH ?

I would wait few more month if I were you,

Motordyne and ARK are designing headers for VHR I would go with Motodyne headers with his ART test pipes!

but hey, fast intention LtH = droooool!

There are varied gains with the FI LTHs; some get good gains, especially in the torque department while others don't get a bump in power. The sound is intoxicating, especially in person! I would go with ART pipes personally as they have shown gains across many different setups, get rid of rasp and hiss (which LTHs increase), and don't require so much work installing or removing.

long tube headers for the power

motordyne anything for the ear orgasm!

I'm biased, but i vote for the F.I. Long tubes, you won't regret it. :driving:

someone that makes the majority of the kits on this forum.....cant say any names...will be coming out with LTH....

Motordyne is developing a CAI and Catback for the Z as well. Save your pennies.

I'm sure forum members will arrange for fair and independent comparisons.
Dynos, sound clips and comparisons of many different configurations would be good.

I have the 18" CF exhaust + the LTH and I can honestly say that there is no better exhaust combo. From sound to power it's beyond incredible and with the 18" cf exhaust I don't have any rasp just a pure aggressive & deep sound.

Wait a bit. There's gonna be more then just fast intentions. Don't get it just cause people tell you to, do your research. Plus good things happen to those who wait.

I've seen different exhaust combos so I know what I'm talking about, and the quality in tony's pieces is definitly there. GTM doesn't make headers but their exhaust is good as well.

Just looked at the ART TP's where does the O2 go??

Seem and having them on your car is a different things. So you don't know what your talking about. GTM... I will let them make the announcement. Lol

I currently have FI's LTH's with a GTHaus exhaust. Hands down the loudest but still clean sounding Z on here. I've been followed for miles for someone to say dude I'm feeling your car. With that said one problem I did run into was after putting on the exhaust setup my intakes (stock with K&N) were to restrictive. Maybe it was because I got the UpRev tune before the catback install, all in all its probably best done getting some headers, intakes, and catback of your choice with a tune in that order.

It wouldn't surprise me if GTM does come out with LTHs, the make alot of other great products for the Z. And ya I do know what I'm talking about, there are plenty of Z's in my area with difference set-ups that I've experienced. Plus I go to all the major Z meets so I've heard alot. Just because I'm not in Cali, making body pieces, or getting the inside scoop on some of the new stuff first doesn't mean I don't know what I'm saying. :tiphat:

I have the F.I. LTH's and 18" Res SS CBE and can say too I love it, and Rasp is not that bad at all with the 18" Res cans. My only question is possibly switching to CF cans for that slightly exotic sound. Other then that, I couldn't be happier. I can tell you from a butt dyno that it does pull harder, and this isn't even with a tune. Can't wait to see it after a tune. :tup:

Not telling you to get F.I. or not, just an extremely satisfied customer giving a review. Take it as you will. :tiphat:

I def agree with your review, we have the same set-up but I have the CF exhaust which are def exotic sounding. I don't have a tune either.

what does me having the scoop on alot of things have to do about this? Nothing. I am sorry so cal is the center of the car industry :rolleyes:Just cause you go to alot of Z meets and hear other cars doesnt really substantiates anything. Point is for the in the OP is to help him find a setup that he likes. Simple research and looking around will help. Just cause fast intentions sold a lot of exhaust doesnt justify its the best exhaust or the best headers. You honestly have nothing to compare with Fast Intentions at this present time and moment. Yes people will jump on the bandwagon just cause of the name. I am not saying FI doesnt deliever..I loved there exhaust but reviews by members and trying out other products will help with his decision. Yes you may know what your talking about, but being factual is a different story.

Um, I have the set-up, daily drive my car. I made my suggestion cus it sounds really really good. He can do what he wants, and take what he wants from my experience.

I want video's please. What intake do you have if any yet? I'm debating switching for CF cans...

I've been trying to find as much information about other CBE's, but F.I it's the only one who's got dyno numbers to backup their product, and judging by reviews and sound clips, it might me the best thing out there right now.

Can any of you comment on the development of LTH's, CAI and CBE systems by Motordyne?? and when it might be in production? Love reviews of the art pipes sound so far, they have the "no drone, no hiss" plus factor for me.

After the T370 ART pipes are done. The Motordyne 370Z exhaust is next.

Not getting intakes due to I'll be getting GTM's stg.2 S/C. Get the CF, it looks nicer, is lighter, and gives it more of a deeper tone. Nothing is like the real thing, but I plan on posting some videos

Honestly, I can't wait for Motordyne, Ark and others to bring LTH's to market, the more competition, the better for the consumer.

I really don't think we're going to see more than a +/- 5whp and wtq difference between the different LTH's assuming they're all built and designed well. There's an optimum design for the product, the closer to that ideal all the manufactures get, the better, but also the more similar the gains betwn products will be.

At that point, the consumer needs to pick based on quality of materials used, welds quality, and of course, price point.

I'm not saying the F.I. Lth's are the perfect design, I'm not qualified enough to say that, but they are extremely well made, with very high quality steel, and the ceramic coating is a plus. I would def put them above the offerings from PPE (the only other LTH choice for us afaik).

any ideas as when this CBE would hiting production?

My coated F.I LTH: http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/w...4/f3ee0662.jpg

That stage 2 S/C is gonna be sick. I'm debating that myself... I'm waiting for the release, some people to get it and test it, once its safe and we see where the powers get to, then I'll know if I want SC or TT. I'm more towards TT right now...

Oh great, after ART pipes?? So we are expecting the ETA is not going to be less than another 4-5 month?? I should of know about this earlier Tony and you know why :shakes head:..

I like how everyone's so impatient about getting car parts lol I mean I would be too but I don't trust vendor promises anymore, especially when it comes to custom fab parts. Ultimately you'll get them when they're done, if you really want them, you gotta wait. I mean it's not like Motordyne or whoever is purposely delaying parts. I'm sure if they could produce these things fast with the quality they want, they would have already.

I've learned to be patient and unless you got race wars coming up in a week and you need that ART pipe to totally take out the competition, you can wait.

Andrew, you sir is spitting hot fire…..

Guys, you are right, everyone seems to be inpatient with these 370z parts. At this time it is difficult for companies to design, R&D and build just the fact that the economy is bad, this is not including companies that are closing up shop and closing up for good. So far, Motordyne has continued their design, massive R&D and yup the building the product is taking a while but once it’s out, it will out due whatever trendy in the market and realize where the performance and quality has always been set by Motordyne!!!
Come on TONY, hurry up with the EXHAUST, lol!!!

First and foremost thank you for taking an interest in our products!

You look like you are set on our CBE so there is not really much for me to say with that but, thank you!

Now as far as comparing the ART test pipes to our long tube headers, there are alot of things to consider between the two. Purchase cost, install time and/or cost, performance & sound.

I can tell you the test pipes will cost less, are easier to install and will cost less to install. However the sound is subjective and everyone will perceive it differently. Now I can only compare our test pipes to our headers. I have never seen the ART test pipes in person nor done a dyno comparison.

What I can tell you is this, our headers combined with our CBE will give your car a very high end exotic sound. The throttle response from idle to red line is vastly improved over stock. It is beyond a night and day difference!

Again, at the end of the day there a lot of different deciding factors to consider. I am always available via telephone.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to call me directly...

Thank you, Tony

Are there any vids out there comparing the CF to the SS. I just ordered my exhaust, but I opted for the SS casue I like the way it looks, but is the sound that much different?

To all in this thread,

I have read everyones comments, some of them twice. I think there are a lot of good points.

I want to chime in a little bit.

I feel we have an edge over everyone else. Yes we are a small company but you have seen the production numbers that we have been able to produce.

I cannot think of another company where I can call up, directly deal with the owner and only the owner. That owner is also the designer and creator of my exhaust. Oh and lastly that owner is building my exhaust with his own hands. The bottom line is this. All of of our exhaust systems are manufactured in house. This is the only way to ensure quality assurance.

"Believe me when I tell you, it is physically demanding however we have worked too hard and spent too much time to put our reputation in someone else's hands".

For the record all of our headers are constructed from 304 stainless steel and than left bare or ceramic coated. I noticed in one of the comments someone stated we used steel. I just wanted to clear that up.

I am not trying to turn this into a flame war so let's not go there. However, I am encouraging any of you to call me with any questions that you may have.

Thank you, Tony

The carbon fiber will sound slightly different and a little more exotic sounding. It is so close though! At the end of the day if you are leaning one way or the other, go that way. You will not regret it either way! If you do it right the first time, you only have to do it once!

Thanks, Tony

Again, my 18" carbon exhaust & LTH's is my most rewarding mod I've done to the car, so far ;) The sound is very exotic, and am getting complements everywhere I go.

Man, I love my Stillen parts but kinda wish I bought some F.I. stuff just to support a company with such good customer service. All I hear is good stuff bout you and your company Tony, keep up the good work!!!

Tony,

We should sponsor some parts for an independent comparative dyno test and with sound clips.

It would make an interesting comparison everyone would like to see.

Test pipes VS FI LTH VS MD T370 ART pipes.

I'm sure there will be moderate power variations between them and probably more dramatic sound differences.

Later on, we could even do an exhaust comparison when the MD E370 is ready.

There is no hurry but it's something we can do.

Tony

Thanks for the positive comments, it is greatly appreciated. If you ever need anything please do not hesitate to call me direclty...

Thank you, Tony

I am definitely open to the idea. Send me an email sometime in the future so we can discuss this further...

Thanks, Tony

Right on. :)


When the MD E370 production is ready we will include the FI and MD exhausts in the same independent comparison.

We'll have to get some good HD A/V recording gear for the occasion.