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Motordyne 10-13-2011 12:38 AM

Absolutely. You can always add more to what is already there.

harp00n 10-20-2011 02:05 AM

bump for the news about AWD fitting!

DarkZide 10-20-2011 08:47 AM

bump for that motordyne catback release

Paskii 10-20-2011 01:04 PM

Hey guys,

Not sure if this is normal but I have about 1200 miles on my ART pipes and I noticed the vibration from it has gotten worse. Especially when I stop and have the car on drive, now I have to move it to neutral to ease the vibration. Anyone else experiencing this?

Also got my SES warning light came on, second time should I do another reset? Is it possible for the pipes to cause any damage to the car?

G37sHKS 10-20-2011 03:08 PM

I have yet seen a good feedback after the latest design of ART, All of them are having issues.

Tony is there something you can do about this?

Motordyne 10-20-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1368916)
Hey guys,

Not sure if this is normal but I have about 1200 miles on my ART pipes and I noticed the vibration from it has gotten worse. Especially when I stop and have the car on drive, now I have to move it to neutral to ease the vibration. Anyone else experiencing this?

Also got my SES warning light came on, second time should I do another reset? Is it possible for the pipes to cause any damage to the car?

When did you purchase them?

Its normal for the breakin period to go up before it goes back down again but if it isn't gone by 1500 miles I'll send you a replacement. The new break in free design.

The CEL is not a problem but it does indicate the O2 sensor detecting free oxygen in the exhaust stream. If the sensor is still able to detect free oxygen it can be turned off if you get an Osirus tune.

Motordyne 10-20-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 1369202)
I have yet seen a good feedback after the latest design of ART, All of them are having issues.

Tony is there something you can do about this?

Thoes are the prior design you are referring to.

The new ones with the vibration dampening bracket do not have a break in period.

Motordyne 10-20-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1368296)
bump for that motordyne catback release

Last week I wasn't able to work on it as planned but I'm back on it now.
The exhaust is all built and done. The only thing left to do is get it into a production stream.

Paskii 10-20-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1369222)
When did you purchase them?

Its normal for the breakin period to go up before it goes back down again but if it isn't gone by 1500 miles I'll send you a replacement. The new break in free design.

The CEL is not a problem but it does indicate the O2 sensor detecting free oxygen in the exhaust stream. If the sensor is still able to detect free oxygen it can be turned off if you get an Osirus tune.

Thanks for getting back to me Tony, I purchased the pipes back in early August. Didn't reach the 1500 miles break in yet, I'm around 1200 or so. Also I don't have the vibration dampening shield either, if it's cool with you I don't mind getting a replacement unit and not worry with breaking in the pipes.

Sounds good, I'll do a quick reset and try to find someone who has an Osirus tune.

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 1369202)
I have yet seen a good feedback after the latest design of ART, All of them are having issues.

Tony is there something you can do about this?

Hey G37sHKS it's not true, many positive feedback with the ART pipes. There are some kinks to work out but overall I'm happy with the performance of the pipes. I'm sure many people who bought the ART pipes didn't regret it :icon17:

Joe711 10-20-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1369308)
Last week I wasn't able to work on it as planned but I'm back on it now.
The exhaust is all built and done. The only thing left to do is get it into a production stream.

WHICH IS :ughdance:

Motordyne 10-20-2011 04:10 PM

I'll need to ask the fabricator for a production time estimate. (Its typically 4-5 weeks for production.) I hope to get at least a few production quality systems fabricated sooner ~2 weeks for pictures and ~1 week for sound clips.

DarkZide 10-20-2011 07:32 PM

waiting to see your exhaust before i order a F.I. Hope its good!

Motordyne 10-20-2011 10:35 PM

Right on. :)
This will be worth the wait.

harp00n 10-21-2011 02:16 AM

don't want to be annoying, but still waiting info about the AWD transfer-case fitting! :tiphat:

AggieAv8r 10-21-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paskii
Hey guys,

Not sure if this is normal but I have about 1200 miles on my ART pipes and I noticed the vibration from it has gotten worse. Especially when I stop and have the car on drive, now I have to move it to neutral to ease the vibration. Anyone else experiencing this?

Also got my SES warning light came on, second time should I do another reset? Is it possible for the pipes to cause any damage to the car?






The only time I have triggered CEL's, which has been about 4 weeks after install/reinstall, it has been due to an almost impossible to detect exhaust leak at the top flange. If you're not sure just reset it and wait, buy the time it comes back on it will be big enough to hear and detect if you get under there while it's running.

I would almost bet money if you get under there you'll find a leak.

On that note Tony, I'll be hitting you up for yet another set of gaskets. Once again it's burned through in the same spot, despite using the rtv in the manner you prescribed. When I pull it off this time i'm going to check the flange for flatness, to be sure it's milled correctly. Will you pm or email when they ship please, I'll let you know what we find.

Motordyne 10-21-2011 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harp00n (Post 1370052)
don't want to be annoying, but still waiting info about the AWD transfer-case fitting! :tiphat:

Sorry, havn't heard anything yet.

Motordyne 10-21-2011 10:34 AM

AggieAv8r,

Try this, bolt it up without the graphite gasket and use only the RTV gasket maker. The RTV alone can seal it.

The ART pipe flanges are indeed flat. They are all ground and surfaced flat at the factory AFTER welding onto the pipes.

If there is a chronic leaking problem you might want to check your header outlet flange to make sure it is not warped or has anything unusual.


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ChrisSlicks 10-21-2011 10:39 AM

I'm going to try it without the gasket. What do you recommend as the cure time after installation before starting the car?

Motordyne 10-21-2011 10:43 AM

If you apply the RTV to the flange surface, let it air cure for a few minutes before installing it. Then let it sit overnight and its good to go.

Motordyne 10-21-2011 03:46 PM

GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT EXHAUST TIPS.

We normally stock 4.5" OD stainless steel and burnt titanium tips with either a straight or rolled lip.

Would more people be interested in a 5" OD burnt Ti tip with a rolled lip?...

Or is 5" too big?

Armonster 10-21-2011 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1370830)
GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT EXHAUST TIPS.

We normally stock 4.5" OD stainless steel and burnt titanium tips with either a straight or rolled lip.

Would more people be interested in a 5" OD burnt Ti tip with a rolled lip?...

Or is 5" too big?

Well the nismo exhaust is 5" right? I'd go for that, if there was a rolled stainless option.

Paskii 10-21-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AggieAv8r (Post 1370297)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paskii
Hey guys,

Not sure if this is normal but I have about 1200 miles on my ART pipes and I noticed the vibration from it has gotten worse. Especially when I stop and have the car on drive, now I have to move it to neutral to ease the vibration. Anyone else experiencing this?

Also got my SES warning light came on, second time should I do another reset? Is it possible for the pipes to cause any damage to the car?






The only time I have triggered CEL's, which has been about 4 weeks after install/reinstall, it has been due to an almost impossible to detect exhaust leak at the top flange. If you're not sure just reset it and wait, buy the time it comes back on it will be big enough to hear and detect if you get under there while it's running.

I would almost bet money if you get under there you'll find a leak.

On that note Tony, I'll be hitting you up for yet another set of gaskets. Once again it's burned through in the same spot, despite using the rtv in the manner you prescribed. When I pull it off this time i'm going to check the flange for flatness, to be sure it's milled correctly. Will you pm or email when they ship please, I'll let you know what we find.

Thanks Aggie, i'll give that a try and see if I get the CEL message again. Does anyone else have the vibration problem?

370Z JT 10-21-2011 10:11 PM

Burnt Ti straight tip.

G37sHKS 10-22-2011 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1370830)
GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT EXHAUST TIPS.

We normally stock 4.5" OD stainless steel and burnt titanium tips with either a straight or rolled lip.

Would more people be interested in a 5" OD burnt Ti tip with a rolled lip?...

Or is 5" too big?

5" all the way!

Go big or go home!

cheshirecat 10-22-2011 01:43 PM

stainless rolled 5'' would be amazing.

G37sHKS 10-22-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1369312)
Hey G37sHKS it's not true, many positive feedback with the ART pipes. There are some kinks to work out but overall I'm happy with the performance of the pipes. I'm sure many people who bought the ART pipes didn't regret it :icon17:

Dont get me wrong, I know motordyne and I know Tony before he even join this forum :)

I love his products and he knows that. Its just many ppl complaining about the new art pipe, either CEL, rasp, noise, etc etc etc.. but now he fixed is usual by making the art pipe break in free :)

harp00n 10-27-2011 04:32 AM

Hmm, I want to buy ART pipes so badly, but still don't want to be the first who will try them on AWD (G35x '07, VQ35HR) and find out it wouldn't fit, as I live like 10000 from the USA and it will be hard to return them...

Please, someone with the G35x/G37x - test fit them!

Motordyne 10-27-2011 10:05 AM

Tell you what. I'll send them to you with a 100% money back guarantee including shipping. If they don't fit, total refund... and you don't need to return them.

Motordyne 10-27-2011 10:07 AM

And please post pics! :)

Neo187H 10-27-2011 10:15 AM

Just wanted to post in here expressing gratitude for great customer service. The gaskets between my manifold and ART pipes blew out after installing my SC and Motordyne sent me new gaskets free of charge.

Footloose301 10-27-2011 11:08 AM

Drivers side after 10k miles
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1/9dc49764.jpg
Passengers side exhaust leak
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1/c11702b0.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1/6177209d.jpg
...and my attempt to fix
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...1/8b6c1853.jpg

NeverBoneStck 10-27-2011 11:17 AM

The high temp will seal the deal....

Methodical4u 10-27-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 1380052)
The high temp will seal the deal....

So that high temp sealant won't burn off? I've looked at some others, but I didn't think the temp for them was high enough.

Footloose301 10-27-2011 11:25 AM

Its made to take the place of gaskets. It'll take the heat.

ChrisSlicks 10-27-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1380075)
Its made to take the place of gaskets. It'll take the heat.

They recommend the copper RTV for exhaust manifolds, can take the high heat a little better.

Footloose301 10-27-2011 12:21 PM

ehh only a difference of 650deg vs 700deg. I don't think it'll matter.

NeverBoneStck 10-27-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methodical4u (Post 1380073)
So that high temp sealant won't burn off? I've looked at some others, but I didn't think the temp for them was high enough.

I have put high temp on all my cars through the years and it always solved gasket issues for me . Would never put on exhaust , art pipes or headers without it ..

Motordyne 10-27-2011 02:11 PM

^And this is why we now include a tube of high-temp silicone RTV in every kit.

harp00n 10-28-2011 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1379889)
Tell you what. I'll send them to you with a 100% money back guarantee including shipping. If they don't fit, total refund... and you don't need to return them.

That's a great offer!!! :iagree: :tiphat: I think my muffler shop can install them anyway even with the slight modifications!

It's hard for me to buy parts directly from the states. So, the local shop (streetpower.com.ua) that imports parts from the USA will contact you soon in a week or two to buy them for me (user harp00n, Vladimir Lvov) :driving:

370Z JT 10-29-2011 10:15 AM

So the RTV is used in stead of the gaskets? How does it take to cure b4 being able to start the car.

Does the RTV make removal more difficult when going back to stock.


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