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If you are going to get ARK exhaust, I thought I had read in some thread that ARK may be willing to cover some of the dyno costs for you.

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Old 09-01-2010, 05:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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If you are going to get ARK exhaust, I thought I had read in some thread that ARK may be willing to cover some of the dyno costs for you.

They should anyway as this small investment for them could mean MANY more sales. I honestly think this would be one of the more popular exhausts if they had this data, as the design, materials, weld quality and overall value are excellent. As someone pointed out, they have Helmholtz resontors like the HKS, but with larger 2.5" piping (>60mm diameter) and a very smooth x-pipe piece. The flex pipes are an added bonus too.
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While I love performance, sound/drone/rasp, were the major contributing factors when I was choosing my exhaust. Do I really care if I get 12HP over 9HP if
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I don't yet have the exhaust, mines still on order, but that was a big thing for me. The performance MAY be lacking in the exhaust but than again almost every exhaust has shown the same gains within +-5 HP between different dynos and different conditions, which is what? A 2% difference in WHP? Personally I can't feel a 2% gain or loss(just like I couldnt really feel when I added i/e and tune to my bike) so sound and looks are dbig factors to me.

Course like others have said, almost no one has tried more than one exhaust so its going to be VERY difficult getting an unbiased opinion on this.
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That is correct. If you provide us with a before and after dyno, we will cover the dyno cost. Just provide us with the shops # before you do the dyno. There has been some cases where the shop said that they would charge 250 for 3 runs...

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ARK all the way. Sounds amazing, no drone, did I say no drone?
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That is correct. If you provide us with a before and after dyno, we will cover the dyno cost. Just provide us with the shops # before you do the dyno. There has been some cases where the shop said that they would charge 250 for 3 runs...

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Even if I do the Run With a Set of Berk Test Pipes does a before and after count, If so that would be amazing



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What is everyone's opinions on these two exhaust? What are the pro's and con's of both? And Which do you feel is the best? I am tied between the two and all of your opinions will be very helpful!
I do not know to much about the ARK. From what I can see it looks like a well built system. I can only tell you about mine.

1) Over 200 systems have been ordered through us in the last year! Over 190 are shipped and installed.

2) We have 5 different variations because everyone wants something different.

3) When you call us you will deal directly with the manufacturer. I designed it, prototyped it and still build it in house to this day.

All of the reviews speak for themselves. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to call me directly...

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Can't go wrong with either one. I am extremely happy with the FI system on my G37xS sedan.
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That is correct. If you provide us with a before and after dyno, we will cover the dyno cost. Just provide us with the shops # before you do the dyno. There has been some cases where the shop said that they would charge 250 for 3 runs...

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I have the ARK and I love it. The fit and finish was excellent, the sound is perfect with ZERO drone. The place I had install it said it was breeze to put on and was impressed with the quality, the dealership where I get my oil changes were impressed with the quality and the guy behind the service desk came running outside to tell me how awesome he thought it sounded. I love the exhuast. It hangs low, but I have never scraped the exhaust, and i've been on some hairy roads and driveways with no problems. There arn't as many people with the ARK as there is FI, so of course you will get more responses from that group. But I have never heard anyone with the ARK complain, and the one issue someone had ARK worked with them on it. Go with the ARK and I can tell you that you won't be disapointed.
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I have to say, after numerous meets in SoCal and hearing numerous exhausts, Still in this day I am in love with FI, I'm currently #200 on the waiting list and I tell you I CANNOT WAIT no longer, their not like an exhaust that you have to wait because vendor can't put out the product, they're on back ordered because of popular demand and Tony wants to make sure EVERY single exhaust that he sell is in perfect condition. Great customer service, very very friendly. And fellas, we didn't buy THIS car so we can not hear our exhaust, little drone does not mean end of the world. I'm not trying to turn this into a VS thread but honestly I think once it's installed on my car I will not regret it at all. That's just my 2 cents.
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I'm sure the FI is a great exhaust and from the vid clips I've heard it sounds very nice as well. And you can definitely hear the ARK exhaust when you want to. Under load it is one of the cleanest exhaust sounds that I've heard. And no, a little drone isn't the end of the world, but if I'm just cruising on the highway and would rather hear the radio, my wife, someone one the phone, etc. rather than the exhaust, the ARK fits the bill.

I'm sure you would be completely happy buying either exhaust, it ultimately just depends on which one you end up pulling the trigger on. Both are great, the FI w/ 18" resonators was my second choice.
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I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about dyno numbers on an exhaust. How much more can one exhaust make over another? Seriously? Not to mention how easy it is to exaggerate gains on a dyno and have people just eat it up. I've seen it, done it and have watched people on other forums go crazy over gains that were basically lies. The common answer from the manufacturer, "Dynos vary so much depending on location and type of dyno. It's completely possible you may see smaller gains based on these facts". It's a larger diameter bent pipe with a muffler/resonator. That's it. Neither have crazy 90 degree bends and both seem to have a decently unobstructed flow path.

But myself, I think paying $1000+ for a simple cat back is just stupid to begin with. I've been around plenty of exhaust manufacturers and can honestly say, they are making quite a killing by charging that much. Once the jig is made, it's simple for them to reproduce in house (hopefully they invested in a mandrel bended or have a supplier) or send it out to China, India, Taiwan or where ever to have it reproduced for dirt cheap. Not knocking any or the listed manufacturers products, because I can tell a lot of work went into to both mentioned exhausts and the quality they produce might be worth it to some consumers.

A few friends of mine did a test once on their cars and noticed something weird. One had an Evo IX with the HKS hi power exhaust and the other had one with a cheap as hell Megan Exhaust. They were bored one day at their shop and did a few pulls with the HKS and then swapped the Megan exhaust on the SAME car. You want to know how much more power the HKS made? NONE. They both were within 1-2hp each run. Sure, the HKS is probably constructed better and may outlast the megan, but really how many people are going to keep their cars long enough to really find out?

It should boil down to sound. Which one you think SOUNDS better and more livable for you. Personally, from what I have heard, the ARK exhaust takes the cake for me.
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I have to say, after numerous meets in SoCal and hearing numerous exhausts, Still in this day I am in love with FI, I'm currently #200 on the waiting list and I tell you I CANNOT WAIT no longer, their not like an exhaust that you have to wait because vendor can't put out the product, they're on back ordered because of popular demand and Tony wants to make sure EVERY single exhaust that he sell is in perfect condition. Great customer service, very very friendly. And fellas, we didn't buy THIS car so we can not hear our exhaust, little drone does not mean end of the world. I'm not trying to turn this into a VS thread but honestly I think once it's installed on my car I will not regret it at all. That's just my 2 cents.
We are getting real close to your exhaust! I am sorry if I have not gotten back to you. As you know I have been so slammed here at work. Give me a call directly if you need anything...

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