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wow. I love this car more and more. One thing the old VQ was lacking was the mod friendliness. This engine gains power like an american V8. Can't wait till i get the Z.

I'd phrase it differently. The old Z was already so well engineered, you couldn't get much more HP out of it with bolt on mods. :D

^i guess you can look at it that way. :)

daaaaaaaaamn
its double the +hp than i expected
:tup:

Looks promising.

Make sure you get some sound clips of the exhaust.

Great results :tup:

What has the cat back/intake combined produced?

Nice numbers!! In for pics of final product!

Looks good. Any prices or pics yet? I agree, what is the combined increase (int/exh)?

That's what I want to know too!

Like I said in the other thread, very impressive.

How long before these are mass produced and ready for sale?

They will be available sometime in early March.

We had limited time with this 370Z we had, weren't able to test the intake/exhaust combination.. but they will compliment each other very well.

Hey Semtex, how many miles do you have on your car so far? I've got about 1050 on mine and it's really starting to loosen up. HR should be fast revving not high revving. Once I go past about 4000rpm it wants to climb the rest of the way very fast. I'm starting to feel an attachment to this car. lol

I've got a little over 600 so far. I work from home full time, so I don't put too many miles on my ride. I've been deliberately taking long, inefficient routes when I go out just to squeeze in some extra miles. :driving:

nice..

What are the gains for using both Intake and Exhaust together?

18 + 18 = 36 whp gains?

I told ya so it would be developed soon....lol

good numbers, but now it's time for an independent dyno

^^ fo sho...18hp off an intake is way above expected...we're seeing high numbers with mods these days. +19hp test pipes, +18 intake, +18 exhaust...what's next? i hope its not too good to be true

Doesn't work like that...

I work 5 miles from my house so I feel ya. I've been trying to find reasons to take trips across town to visit friends or whatever. Or if I'm at home and need 1 stupid little thing from the store, well the next thing I know I'm looking for my keys and heading the long way to the store. haha

I wish I was in that boat. At the rate I'm going I won't have a warranty by 2010. Not necessarily a bad thing...

obviously I am not Semtex but I have 1181 miles on mine. Just 19 miles before the end of break-in!! WOOHOO. I have not taken it over 4000 rpms yet. Gonna change the oil and let er rip this weekend!

I changed oil this past weekend. I was going to use Mobil 1 but decided to use normal pennzoil 5w-30. I not sure if switching to synthetic is good or bad for this motor.

I am thinking along the same lines, using a normal oil now however I plan to switch to synthetic on the next oil change.

Might switch to mobil 1 on my next oil change. Sort of waiting to see what others do first and how it affects or does not affect the engine.

I would switch to synthetic after 10 - 20k miles given the VQ's "oily" past.

Where's the air fuels? If you do this then exhaust then you end up with a super lean air fuel I would not be comfortable with that. Would need to get it tuned afterwards.

Yeah, A/F would rock.

Also, I hope you get another Z soon so you can do them both at the same time.

Thanks!

Any way you guys at Stillen can or will be doing a combined dyno with the intake and exhaust? I know you cant just 18+18hp.....but Id like to see the combo.....

^^^Ditto:D

Still no air fuels?

I would expect the A/F, air fuel ratio, to be about the same as stock. As long as the ECU is not modified and you aren't in the outer limits of the injector duty cycle the AF should remain about the same as stock in a closed loop system.

Can we pictures of the intake installed? I'm very curious as to where it sits.

Come on Stillen! Don't leave us hanging.

Guys

New to the 370 list as I just purchased a new 370Z the end of last week. However, pretty darn salty at hot rodding cars being a former dyno shop sponced racer currently owning the highest hp N/A street driven C4 on the Vetter forum. This particular car has had over 1000 dyno pulls and there is literally nothing stock in the engine. 12.5 to 1 398ci trying 3 different of heads and a dozen different cams to get the combo worked out. Time for a new challenge.

With that said.........In a new learning curve and I'm looking for effective mods and objective independent dyno restults to back up their effectiveness. And.......no, I don't trust any of the shops and yes.....I know the dyno tricks.

I have some issues with this Stillen post. First, they are an old reputible shop and posting individual results from an intake and exhaust is nice; but why isn't the results of both posted?? Something doesn't appear exactly right to me.

Already tried to purchase (if the frickin shop will call or e-mail me back) a set of high flow cat as that makes sense. Will have the car dynoed bone stock for a rwhp and fuel/air baseline. Will install the cats and will post the results.

In looking at the exhaust, I see quite a bit of room for improvement but the stock intake doesn't appear all that bad. So exactly where is the restriction that causes the 18 hp loss??

The stock intake is cold air with twin filters which appear to be more than sufficantly large enough to support 300rwhp plus. After trying three different intake systems on my Vette I went back to a modified stock setup with a K+N filter. The car currently makes over 470 rwhp and has made as high as 480+ with the same modified stock intake.

So where is the objective independent results?? I'm a buyer!! But, ya got to prove it to me.

Hi Denny! Thanks for taking the time to post. As stated before, we had limited time with the vehicle from Nissan, and with the R&D and testing, we were only able to get individual dynos literally before the car was returned same day.

We have since taken both the intake and exhaust into production, which if anyone is familiar with producing products of these nature means the prototypes are destroyed to create the jigs for producing exacting production parts. This is currently where the part production is at, and we anticipate production parts in 3-4 weeks.

Once we have parts again in hand, we can get them back onto the 370Z and get combination numbers, and your other requests.

We also realize that in this day and age, with some manufacturers taking advantage of posting dynos in their favor, regardless of actual results, that our dyno results on our dyno will inevitably be considered tainted, and look forward to independent dynos to back our claims, just as we had to with the G37.

With all due respect, the differences between a C4 and a 370Z are so numerous, anything but extremely generic points on general automotive theory would apply. We've gone through over 50 variations of this intake on the G37 to produce the gains that the 370Z is also benefiting from. Tube lengths, filter sizes, steps in pipe sizing, all of these variables play into the gains, and have effect on the performance.

We look forward to your, and others independent testing and reviews when these items are released, I'm confident you won't be disappointed.

:)

I will gladly do independent testing for you if you send me a set or at least give a discount to offset the price of the dyno runs :) I promise back to back runs without taking the car off the dyno with video to prove it.

Hi Josh and your welcome for the post. Watch what ya ask for regarding independent testing.

The car goes on the dyno tomorrow for baseline testing with 150 miles on the car. High flow cats, Y pipe and high flow intake filters have already been ordered and dyno time scheduled for Saturday to see how they work. Each will be tested individually and as a combo. Consistent cool down, consistent water/oil temps, etc. etc.

Trying to figure out the tuning as it is different, but next step will be tuning software/more dyno time to optimize the system. The majority of people leave a lot on the table due to lack of optimization of what they already have.

Maybe headers, full exhaust after that to see if there is any additional gains to be had. Intake?? We'll see how the mop flops, but I've owned three turbo cars and for sure, that works.

Even though there is a big difference between a small block Chevy and a Nissan motor, the same basics apply. Air in - air out - optimal fuel ratio - optimal timing = Horsepower. The good ol boy school of hot rodding still applies and dynos don't lie......Operators of the dyno do. It's a science and sound clips/butt dyno's don't work. Don't tell me it "feels faster", measure it under controlled condition and tell me then.

I have zero financial nor special interest in anything, just a passion for fast cars and what really works. Don't mind spending a few bucks nor letting others know.

Denny,

Glad to see you're putting in the dyno time and willing to release results for the benefit of the group here. Information from an independent sources is what they want to see, and we at STILLEN are excited when that takes place, because every part we build is tested and performs, so there isn't a concern when someone is taking the part to the dyno, we know what to expect.

I just wish the exhaust was available now as you're obviously in full mod mode. :)

HFC's of the parts you list should give you the largest gains. These cars react well to them.

If you're looking for a strong tuner, I would recommend COBB, the only problem is they haven't released their tuning software to tuning shops just yet, they are still working on it, but they are spot on with their abilities and control of the Nissan ECU.

Good luck with your results, we hope you'll give the Gen 3 Intake a consideration upon it's release.