yeah, wheres the pics?

Working now?

Yep, your box looks a bit worse than mine.
Similar hole and the upper parts of the box look smashed inward like mine was but mine was not that extreme. On the welds I am no expert either.

That box is disgusting. If it was outside my door, I'd mistake it for garbage. Welds seem ok, but I'm not metallurgist.

Not the prettiest welds but they look solid for sure.

Oh, for sure. I wasn't denouncing the integrity of the welds, just the "fit and finish" of the appearance. I have full confidence, after my short inspection of the exhaust, that this thing certainly isn't going to break or come apart at the seams on me.

Hell, if anything is "ugly", save for the tips, does it really matter anyway? But compare the look to some of the other CBEs out there.... I believe we'd see a difference.

agree, besides, who is gonna see 'em. But I have seen outstanding welds on competitor's products.

yeah thats pretty bad. Welds are fine though. Not grade A but they seem ok.

I'll receive mine at the end of the week, so I don't yet know how mine will be packaged, but it looks like there is quite a difference between some of the boxes sent out by Berk. Look at the weapons box: http://www.the370z.com/group-buys/12...tml#post434724 This is how I want my exhaust to arrive. I sure as hell hope my box does not looke anything like what Matt or g96818 posted... Care to elaborate Berk??

It's in part the shipping companies when dealing with heavy packages (they change trucks several times going across country) but unfortunately a large part of the blame lays in the packaging. Packing peanuts should not be used for heavy items, it should be packaged with corrugated paper to prevent movement of the part. Stillen does it right, others should take notice and learn.

Wohooooo!!!!! Just placed my order today.....read about the packaging issues..hope that Berks improves on their packaging based on all the info from everyone...Super stoaked to see pics, vids and mods of everyone that just recently received theirs

yeah the welds are fine definatly tig (they were welded by hand), i will tell better once mine arrives next monday as for the penetration, porosity, and stuff. When it comes to tig there are different ways to do it, they could have overlapped the melt pools more and given it that "row of coins" look but that is done in a continuous weld, i'm betting to keep the tube from stressing and warping it was kind of a spot of weld here spot of weld there thing to keep the heat even. like i said we'll see when it gets here but in my opinion so long as they used the right rod and the right gas and the welds don't rot out or leak it'll do. the only people under my car other than me will be peds i accidentally mow over and i don't think he's gonna have to good of a look at the welds if he fit under a 3" ground clearance car :roflpuke2:

Edit: after a fourth and fifth look at the photo i'm willing to say that the welds do look strong enough you don't want the weld to bulge out to much more past flat between the outer boundary of the pool so it looks like they used enough filler

Thanks for the feedback. It's good to know I have little to worry about besides cosmetics.


Exactly. How can one box have the paper, one box have peanuts, and one box have absolutely nothing(mine)? That's got nothing to do with UPS, but packing the box correctly could have minimized the amount of damage the box actually receives during shipping.

I received my Berk HFC's packed extremely well in the box they came in.

My F.I. box came in great shape and this BERK exhaust came packaged pretty well too IMO but it did have a hole in the side where one of the hangers from the muffler lost it's protective tube that was on it and poked through the side. Goes on here in a few hours and I'll have pics and I'll try to get vids but I can not guarantee the vids will be of high quality.

My exhaust was similar to this. I will post pics later tonight.

Berk CBE Delivery

Eeek. Not well packed at all. You're very lucky it survived intact.

That's *exactly* what my exhaust looked like in the box. It's absolutely pitiful looking, isn't it? Hopefully yours had the same miraculous survival skills as mine did!

Here's a link to my review, for any interested:
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...tml#post438857

Oh man that looks terrible, was anything scratched or dinged?

^^^WOW!!! No paper at all in between? That's kinda weird...one of the 1st boxes I saw that arrived had a lot of paper in between but vpn2001's box along with Matt's seems as though they just wrapped it up in bubble paper, threw it in the box, and taped it up...I really hope that Berk addresses this issue and could respond to the poor packaging

You have to be kidding me! That's how they packed it? If they sent me a $1200+ exhaust like that, I'd mail them back the same box with a turd in it.

:icon18::iagree:

Maybe all the packaging material used in packaging my exhaust was the last of it and I should send it back to them so they can re-use it in other peoples exhausts shipments. I honestly think at this point BERK should use a different shipping company and file a complaint with UPS if this really is UPS failing to package correctly. If BERK is doing in house packaging then this is complete :bs:
:ugh2:

Ace Venture Shipping :ugh2:

I'm wondering if this was really browns fault or if they reused the boxes that the exhausts were shipped from asia in transoceanic shipping tends to beat the crap out of anything unless it's shipped in a galvanized steel box bolted together and filled with custom supports inside.berk may have just repackaged this fail because i know ups is to damn cheap to retape anything and a few of the boxes have had patch jobs done to them. berk needs instapak. it's what we use at work and it is honestly the most amazing thing ever made. expanding shipping foam that will mold to all the parts and support, cushion, and seperate all the contents and takes a whole 5 mins to pack a box.

So is it ok? No damage? If not, did you get it installed? Impressions? I know, a million questions.

Matt - while those welds arent PERFECT, we arent exactly paying for a show quality piece here at all. These, are some perfect welds:

https://01f6bbb.netsolstores.com/ima...headers007.jpg

A perfect set of great welds is said to look like a row of nickles. I'd say you got a pretty good looking set there dude - I havent looked at mine yet, but I wouldnt sweat it for a second.

Well being a possible overseas customer. I must say I have lost confidence seeing packaging like that...Sorry Berk.

Forgive me for speculating but from what I'm seeing and reading it looks like the exhausts where simply unloaded from a shipping container and put into the post right away. I can't imagine someone from Berk letting the exhausts leave with packaging like that.

I could only hope its Johnny Newbie at Berk that packed those boxes...or UPS jacked up and decided to unpack them after destroying them. Thats pretty bad. Im happy mine showed up with TONS of paper in between the pieces...

Upon initial inspection, the cbe didn’t have any damages and all the parts were accounted for. I was lucky. Hopefully, Berk could chime in and clear this up.

Another one came in, weight info included
 

My BERK exhaust came in today as well. After seeing how some of the others received theirs, I was worried about how it would be packed. Well, there was no need to worry for me, it was packed perfectly. See pictures below. The box did have one hole but that was it. Lots of paper in the box, cardboard supports for the different part, all parts were wrapped in bubble wrap and to top it all off, the mufflers and resonators had an additional layer of some sort of foam material around them.

As I received the box at work, I was able to weigh the parts on our shipping scale. I believe the weight of this exhaust has been discuses already, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to mention it again.

Total weight: 64lbs
Parts:
- Muffler section: 33lbs
- X-pipe: 13lbs
- Mid pipes (resonators): 9lbs each, so 18 in total

For the nitpickers: yes, I left the protective martial on the exhaust when I weighed the parts, so if it makes anyone feel better, you can say the total weight is slightly less then 64lbs... ;)

Install will be on Saturday morning, I'll report back with my review then. :driving:

Sorry for the crappy picture quality (iPhone)...

Did you compensate for the moons gravitational pull?

Nah, no need to compensate. I weighed the parts at noon exactly so the pull should have been close to zero

Don't forget that Unicorn Blood is more dense than water, I hear this exhaust is coated with Unicorn Blood at the factory.

We can all definitely see the change that took place within a few days (or hours) in the quality of packaging. The last couple systems have looked *a lot* better.

Kudos for fixing the problem so promptly.

LOL. It just takes putting some filler-paper in the next shipment :).

But yes, Berks' response was professional and timely. Buyer confidence restored.

I guess they must have been going through the forum, or received complaints from past customers or customers pending their shipment....However they found out...I'm glad that the packaging issue has been addressed and corrected! It would be nice though for a rep from Berks post something about how this happened

They did in the other thread.

However, the real answer is they probably fired some lazy 17 year old idiot who thought you could quickly throw a bunch of metal tubes in a huge shipping box without any packing materials.

So are you ready for that 900 hp mustang now? Did the guy show up at the shop again? HAha That dude was a richard (since you cant use the name **** here).

Haha, yeah...that guy... :ugh2:

Had a small crowd of guys around it after the exhaust got installed and I was revving it up. Clark, the installer, said our 2 370's have attracted more people to the shop/car than most others.