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Dallaz 03-19-2012 01:18 AM

This thread is awesome. I want more shots from 370 owners who's brakes you've done. I really want red calipers, possibly with the Akebono logo. Just out of curiosity, do you have a bright lime green? I think you mentioned you do Camaro's somewhere as well. Are you on Camaro5? If so what's your username? Lots of questions, thanks in advance!

Mike 03-19-2012 10:27 AM

I've got golds but no orange golds.

Mike 03-20-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallaz (Post 1607511)
This thread is awesome. I want more shots from 370 owners who's brakes you've done. I really want red calipers, possibly with the Akebono logo. Just out of curiosity, do you have a bright lime green? I think you mentioned you do Camaro's somewhere as well. Are you on Camaro5? If so what's your username? Lots of questions, thanks in advance!

Yes, I am on C5 as Mike. I only post in my one thread in the vendor classifieds though.

http://a.imageshack.us/img10/5923/limegreenakebono.jpg

Dallaz 03-20-2012 11:02 AM

Aaaah those brakes look beautiful!!! I gotta consider this

mtaxelson 03-20-2012 12:37 PM

I am diggin the crystal red with akebono. prob do the akebono in black. this is def in order for next paycheck.

http://www.thepowdercoater.com/galle...M_Akebonos.jpg

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2012 11:44 PM

Damn Mike... Seriously, all colors look hot. I'm definately interested in the Akebono Logo. I wouldn't know whether to choose red or do you do orange? PM me a quote when you have time Mike. :)

daisuke149 03-22-2012 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1460677)
350 plus 30 shipping and a refundable 650 core deposit.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1613860)
Damn Mike... Seriously, all colors look hot. I'm definately interested in the Akebono Logo. I wouldn't know whether to choose red or do you do orange? PM me a quote when you have time Mike. :)

Except its 300$ when your a premium member I believe.

Mike 03-22-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1614110)
Except its 300$ when your a premium member I believe.

that is correct, premium members get a 50 discount, which more than pays for the premium membership!

LunaZ 03-24-2012 12:20 AM

Still lovin' mine.
The guys at the dealer asked me where I got 40th Anniversary calipers. Mission accomplished.

LakeShow 03-24-2012 12:47 AM

Brembo gold?

daisuke149 03-24-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1617906)
Brembo gold?

since Mike i believe is flyin or out of town,

He doesnt have Brembo gold. No powdercoater maker will make that color. He stated he has some that are similar / close.

scruffydog 04-25-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 400134)
well, the real problem is that when it gets hot, it gets soft, so a) it looses its gloss, and b) the brake dust embeds itself in the finish. That is why my calipers are satin black. that color holds up fine.

Does anyone know if the existing "Nissan" Akebono brakes are painted on the sports package brakes? Mine are currently Metallic Silverish Grey, stock sports brakes and I'd liket o powder coat them red (just like the 40th Anniversary Edition) and possibly put the "Nissan" logo back on.

However, I will be doing track so are you saying that could potentially be an issue? Has anyone have problem with that? Should I have a concern?

Is the OEM factory 40th Anniversary Edition Calipers painted and not powdercoated Red?

Another question is the logo a decal? is it applied before or underneath a clear coat? I can't seem to see the seam of the existing logo.

Mike 04-25-2012 10:32 AM

I would recommend against powdercoating if you are going to track, especially with this car in particular, as the brakes get extremely hot. I'm not sure what Nissan uses from the factory on them. On mine, the logos are usually a sticker, applied under the clearcoat, except in the case of some colors where the base color bleeds into the vinyl when clearcoated.

This is how hot mine got one time, enough to discolor and even partially melt the powdercoat on my wheel, The orange vinyl on the stock caliper held up fine, remarkably.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5796157_n.jpg

scruffydog 04-25-2012 10:51 AM

Wow, so the sticker can withstand hi-temp but not powercoat? I just powder coated my rims and I do tracking, hopefully that wouldn't be an issue.

I wonder if the OEM factory Red calipers from Nissan are painted then. If I have my brakes painted from the place that powder coat my wheels, will you be able to sell the "Nissan" Logo stickers by itself?

Mike 04-25-2012 12:56 PM

It all depends how hard you are on the brakes. I'm really agressive and an advanced level driver, so I beat them pretty good. I can sell you stickers

scruffydog 04-27-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1685034)
It all depends how hard you are on the brakes. I'm really agressive and an advanced level driver, so I beat them pretty good. I can sell you stickers

Thanks so much, but I'm still very incline to have them done by you since you've done such a great job. I also brake pretty hard during track (that's the only way to minimize lap time =) ) which is why I am looking into brake ducts, etc.

So I saw the pictures of the brake dust all over your powdercoated wheels, but how did your calipers look after tracking? You mentioned it getting soft, but did it melt or get all jacked up from the brake dust? Were you able to just hose it clean or wash it off afterwards?

The shop I powdercoated my wheels said they did both powdercoating and paint (not hi-temp) wheels over the last 22 years with no problem. They said that Powdercoat gets baked at 400° so it shouldn't melt. (I know that tracking under high speed braking could get actually upto north of 500°) So the customers that didn't have any issues prolly just do it for looks but never track much. - I also don't believe regular temp paint will not melt or anything.

What about our OEM Akebono 40th Anniversary Calipers? Are they painted or powdercoated? I hope someone finds out this answer....If they're painted, I wonder if they're Hi-Temp Painted...I would like to have someone like Mike to replicate that for me. (Not neccessary the color but the same process) as we know that works okay.

Mike 04-28-2012 08:38 AM

That wasn't dust, exactly. It was discolored powdercoat from burning and when it softened, the dust embedded into the coating. I had the stock brakes with stock paint on them that time. The first iteration of my brakes, which were burnt orange, discolored and darkened after 1 event. When I replaced them with Brembo fronts, I did the brembos satin black. Now with the stoptech trophy brakes, I'm leaving them the anodized finish that they come in, because they do hold up.

I think the brakes got more to around 600 degrees. With a brake cooling kit, you'll probably be ok. My buddy w0ady who has a G37 and posts here sometimes has a set of akebonos I powdercoated for him, and he tracks and they are holding up just fine.

ShockWave 04-28-2012 03:23 PM

u got PM!

happytheman 04-28-2012 03:52 PM

I'm interested in the candy lime green with akebono logo! That'll look fantastic on my Montery Blue! :)

Mike 04-29-2012 09:31 AM

that would be interesting

happytheman 04-29-2012 10:09 AM

You're a funny guy! :rofl2:

Tell me this: Do you have a metallic candy lime green? I saw this color, and it looks awesome, just didn't know if it was available inn metallic. Also, what is your turnaround time right now because I know you're super busy! :)

http://a.imageshack.us/img10/5923/limegreenakebono.jpg

Grabbed this image off your site, and it looks like a portion of the caliper has some type of flake but not the remainder of it.

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...1/a08d249c.jpg

Allpowderpaints.com has an interesting one, not sure if you have it..but thought it looked cool from what I can see of it:

http://www.allpowderpaints.com/image...LLIC%20WEB.jpg

Mike 04-29-2012 11:17 AM

The second one has a metallic base coat with the candy lime over it. It shows through more in the thinner spots on the inside of the caliper. Haven't seen that green, but I can always do a metallic clearcoat over the candy.

If we schedule when they are going to get to me, I can turn them around in two days.

I'm home the 6th-16th next month.

happytheman 04-29-2012 11:37 AM

Ok cool! :tup: I love the glitteriness of the metallic flakes!

My Z is a DD. Do you have a spare set of Akebonos that you can work on and do the refundable core charge with me?

valpozguy 04-29-2012 06:08 PM

I like this!

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Mike 04-29-2012 07:36 PM

yes, I have one core set. there are two or three others waiting right now. I had to order one new rear caliper, as one got damaged.

Dallaz 04-30-2012 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by happytheman (Post 1692271)
You're a funny guy! :rofl2:

Tell me this: Do you have a metallic candy lime green? I saw this color, and it looks awesome, just didn't know if it was available inn metallic. Also, what is your turnaround time right now because I know you're super busy! :)

http://a.imageshack.us/img10/5923/limegreenakebono.jpg

Grabbed this image off your site, and it looks like a portion of the caliper has some type of flake but not the remainder of it.

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/...1/a08d249c.jpg

Allpowderpaints.com has an interesting one, not sure if you have it..but thought it looked cool from what I can see of it:

http://www.allpowderpaints.com/image...LLIC%20WEB.jpg

I personally like Mike's color better out of those 2 and your right I think this would look good on Monterey blue.

happytheman 04-30-2012 06:42 AM

Mikes color is actually the top two! :tup: I think this would look sick on Monterey Blue!

G35_FTMFW 05-08-2012 11:31 AM

What kind of Blues do you offer? May a blurple?

LukasC 05-08-2012 02:00 PM

I heard powdercoating your calipers wouldnt stand up to track use. If im wrong please correct me. If not id b interested in doing this

Mike 05-08-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LukasC (Post 1709733)
I heard powdercoating your calipers wouldnt stand up to track use. If im wrong please correct me. If not id b interested in doing this

the powdercoat gets soft and brake dust embeds in it, darkening the color. Some cars can handle powdercoated calipers and track use. The 370 can not. Maybe with cooling ducts, but I've gotten my calipers in excess of 600 degrees and it won't hold up to that. I have even melted silicone dust boots, which are designed for that temperature.

I've got a burple, a very dark candy blue, medium candy blue, Carribean blue from the G35, Monterey blue, and others.

LukasC 05-12-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1710120)
the powdercoat gets soft and brake dust embeds in it, darkening the color. Some cars can handle powdercoated calipers and track use. The 370 can not. Maybe with cooling ducts, but I've gotten my calipers in excess of 600 degrees and it won't hold up to that. I have even melted silicone dust boots, which are designed for that temperature.

I've got a burple, a very dark candy blue, medium candy blue, Carribean blue from the G35, Monterey blue, and others.

So would u recomend painting them instead for track use? I want to powdercoat my sport rims too but worry about heat but they wont get as hot as calipers

Mike 05-12-2012 08:21 PM

rims should be ok. I don't think paint will hold up either. I used 1200 degree duplicolor on my rotors and it burned off. Best is the stock finish.

LukasC 05-13-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1717707)
rims should be ok. I don't think paint will hold up either. I used 1200 degree duplicolor on my rotors and it burned off. Best is the stock finish.

Is there not a way to duplicate stock finish but in a different color?

Mike 05-13-2012 06:04 AM

not that I know of. Powdercoating may hold up a little better with a brake cooling kit, but they just get too hot on our cars. I powdercoated a set of sport calipers for my friend with a G37 who tracks his car and they are holding up just fine. Its all about the cooling.

LukasC 05-13-2012 11:34 AM

Hmm thats an idea. How much would a cooling kit cost for us?

happytheman 05-13-2012 01:16 PM

Checkit:

STILLEN : STILLEN 370Z Brake Cooling Kit

LukasC 05-14-2012 12:52 AM

Thats cool lol. Hmm so many options for this car i didnt even think about before lol!

roplusbee 06-16-2012 02:58 PM

Mike:

I should be picking up my car next week. Do you have any openings in like 2-3 weeks for some powdercoating? I guess a better question is.........are you guys doing anything for the 4th? I can hang around Atlanta or Augusta if you can fit me in somewhere around then.

At a minimum, I want to get my calipers done up in Red. If you are feeling like a pimp, do my NISMOs in Gunmetal or Black! Let me know big man! Take care............Rob.

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Mike 06-16-2012 06:58 PM

sometime in the 19-21 would work best. going to be gone most of the month and doing Danyas R32 wheels and calipers over the 4th.

roplusbee 06-18-2012 11:04 PM

It can be after the 4th if that will work. I won't be picking my car up until the 21st at the earliest............

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