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kentmo280z 12-15-2014 04:44 PM

GTM Stage 1 Super Charger Install--Kentmo
 
Today starts the installation of the GTM SC that I recently acquired.
Not real sure if GTM will offer to help with support , but a couple knowledgeable members have answered a few of my questions. Nice to have good people here that are willing to offer advice! Thank you...

Today I installed the Walbro fuel pump, up and running.. Tear down starts sometime this week/ weekend...
Pics when I get to the interesting parts....

BTW... When the smoke clears, I'll have unused Berk HFC's and a Gen III CAI that has less than 500 mi. up for sale .... I purchased these items before I got the lamebrain idea to do an SC upgrade..... :rofl2:

theDreamer 12-15-2014 04:55 PM

Just take the install slow and double check stuff, but once it is done & tuned you will love it!

R3drckt09 12-16-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3057349)
Just take the install slow and double check stuff, but once it is done & tuned you will love it!


^ What he said!

ANMVQ 12-17-2014 08:02 PM

Nice to see you take this on, in for the progression:)

kentmo280z 12-20-2014 07:45 AM

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Most of the tear down is completed, so far fairly simple. Need to remove the existing oil cooler then I'm close to the SC installation.
I'll complete the fuel injector install today then start running the cooler lines.
After that the SC .

kentmo280z 12-20-2014 07:49 AM

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Couple more tear down pics... zzzzzzAttachment 98293

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R3drckt09 12-23-2014 07:26 AM

I know what part you're talking about under the skid plate and that all gets replaced. I just took a dremmel and cut the hard lines so I could get them out more easily

kentmo280z 12-23-2014 12:42 PM

I did remove the "suspension member stay" plate and the engine did not end up on my head. :roflpuke2:
That allowed me to remove the old power steering lines & install the new ones with no trouble. Everything is working out well so far.
I'm adding a Mocal inline oil cooler thermostat ,which will connect to the Setrab oil cooler, so I'll need to make up some braided lines. Probably will work on that before the SC install.

kentmo280z 12-24-2014 10:02 PM

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Moving right along.. Sc installed today. Had to drop the front sway bar to make room for the sc., The directions from GTM are very good , but one definitely needs mechanical experience to get through the install. Having the correct tool are ESSENTIAL!!!Attachment 98472

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kentmo280z 12-24-2014 10:04 PM

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Attachment 98474 Not the best pics ever...

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kentmo280z 12-29-2014 09:35 AM

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I have the SC, alternator , P S pump & belt installed.
I'm not happy with how the new PS & SC lines are crammed between the alternator & passenger side wall. Very little room and I'm concerned about heat & chaffing of the lines & wires. I think a redesign with solid tubing that runs along the side wall would be more efficient. I may look into trying to do that down the road. In the mean time I'll be wrapping the hose and wiring with a heat shield aluminum tubing to protect those parts. Attachment 98592

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ANMVQ 12-29-2014 09:43 AM

Looking good man :)

kentmo280z 12-29-2014 10:14 AM

Thanks :)
Hard to tell though from the sh!!ty pic quality...:)

kentmo280z 12-30-2014 08:03 PM

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Attachment 98660 What the hell?? That's not going to workAttachment 98661 Mad skills.....
Attachment 98662 Moving right along..

ANMVQ 12-31-2014 06:59 AM

:) Nice ,What that's fine just drill a hole through the cooler, LOL Good work around tho!

Merv 12-31-2014 10:22 AM

I envy the do it yourself guys that tackle projects like this! Anything more than working on headlights or exhaust and I'm into unfamiliar territory haha!
What are you hoping to throw down for numbers and are you sticking her on a dyno?

kentmo280z 12-31-2014 10:57 AM

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Thanks, I'm enjoying this Supercharger project alot.

I spent 4 years on my 280z Spyder project. That happened over 10 years ago. Attachment 98674I cleaned or replaced EVERY part on that car...

Not so motivated to clean everything so meticulously on this project tho... Just making sure the mechanicals that I'm installing are absolutely correct.
Hoping to see about 400~425 rwhp...???
I have a tuner lined up who has a dyno.
Will post results when that happens. I still need to have someone install my Stage 3 clutch and FI exhaust before I do the tune. Not too long before I'm ready to do the tune though.. Getting close.

kentmo280z 12-31-2014 04:56 PM

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Ran into my first major issue. The intercooler bolt holes do not fit the bolt up tabs of my frame. About 2" too short. I made a couple brackets to bolt it up , but I now worry about how the plumbing will line up. Mainly the intakes to the throttle bodies. If this works out I'll try to make a more substantial bracket to eliminate side to side movement.
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kentmo280z 01-04-2015 04:01 PM

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Major pain in the a$$ installing the cold air intakes to the intercooler. The intakes were not even close to fitting. I had to use longer silicone connectors and 45* connectors. Even using those the fittment was very difficult. My Z is a Roadster and apparently the frontal frame is different from the Coupe??? Next is the oil cooler install using custom braided lines and that should complete the install.
Sam from GTM called me the other day and sent the ECU flash codes. Getting close now!!!

taroslush 01-07-2015 12:23 AM

you shouldn't have lowered the intercooler. That's why the outlet pipes fit like poop. can you remove the brackets you made and make something to make up the gap on the bottom? you'll likely have a better fitment that way.

kentmo280z 01-07-2015 05:23 AM

The intercooler rests on tabs that are premolded on the bottom side. Raising everything up would have caused a more diffiult problem with the lower plumbing geometry. Plus it would have been less stable.

ANMVQ 01-07-2015 08:02 AM

Looks good BUT your killing me with the upside down pics LOL,

BTW where are the MAF's stock location ?

Merv 01-07-2015 09:16 AM

I'm really digging that 280z you have. Beautiful color on it!

ATLz 01-07-2015 09:20 AM

Looking good man, keep it up..

kentmo280z 01-07-2015 10:58 AM

Thanks for the compliments! Doing the SC install.... easy...
Getting my pics to upload right side up... way beyond my capabilities!! :confused:
The MAF sensors are located just under the equator of the CAI tubes.

Elmo370z 01-07-2015 11:49 AM

TeaCH ME!!

Elmo370z 01-07-2015 11:50 AM

I can help with learning how to do the complicated uploading of pictures

kentmo280z 01-10-2015 03:56 PM

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Well, finished up the build today, ran the oil lines with an oil cooler and thermostat. ( Here's some more upside down/ sideways pics).... :)

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kentmo280z 01-10-2015 04:02 PM

Started the car up!!!!! Everything looked good, had a leaky SC hose at the reservoir. Other than that no other leaks. This baby sucks in some air... Really whistles.. Idles good ,though it had a hiccup ...
Can't drive yet.. 9" snow out there... Then an appointment with the tune guys.
Gonna be a bad a$$ Roadster!!

R3drckt09 01-10-2015 10:30 PM

Nice!!

kentmo280z 01-20-2015 07:54 PM

I have decided to eliminate my stock cats. I just installed FI cat back w/ 14" resonators.
That's loud enough for me. I want to run Berk test pipes w/ resonators but am wondering if the resonator test pipes would be too restrictive for my Sc ???

ANMVQ 01-21-2015 08:09 AM

Nice man !! What no start up VID, LOL , Yea the sound of the SC is intoxicating for sure, I loved the sound of mine when I had it ( Stillen) BTW not sure how different the GTM kit is but Stillen told us to keep the stock cats on the car ? Cars actually lost WHP with TP's .

Merv 01-21-2015 08:12 AM

I don't think it would be. Isn't it a straight through design? There shouldn't be any packing in there. Man you must be itching to get her out on the open road!!! Look forward to some numbers!

theDreamer 01-21-2015 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3087731)
Nice man !! What no start up VID, LOL , Yea the sound of the SC is intoxicating for sure, I loved the sound of mine when I had it ( Stillen) BTW not sure how different the GTM kit is but Stillen told us to keep the stock cats on the car ? Cars actually lost WHP with TP's .

Honestly you will not lose HP with TP v stock cats, I ran LTH & TP and kept the same power as stock cats, just have to tune it for a more open exhaust.
The issue with HFC & I believe RTP is they will break down and could clog the exhaust where stock cats, LTH, and TP do not have this issue. LTH & TP are just straight pipes & stock cats versus HFC have better heat control that do not break down as quickly.

I remember a few places talking about making better HFC that can withstand the heat of boost, but nothing ever materialized from it that I remember.

kentmo280z 01-21-2015 08:11 PM

Just ordered the berk resonated test pipes. Once i get those it's tune & dyno time!!
I'll try to do a dyno video and will post results.
Just finished running the wiring & hose for the boost & AFR meters. Gawd I hate doing that type of install. My body doesn't contort into the positions to that I need to get under the dash.... Plus trying to get through the fire wall etc.. PAIN IN ***.... Found a place to make a hole next to the in cabin air filter to run the wires & vacuum hose.

kentmo280z 01-22-2015 08:03 PM

Check that... cancelled the Berks, they're back ordered forever, ordered the Fast Intention resonated pipes instead... over priced , but... want to keep things moving..

ANMVQ 01-23-2015 07:50 AM

Did you even look into the Z1 Tp's I have their HFC's and IMO better than FI's I had FIRHFC's also but the Z1's are better just my.02

Zat_Zuma 01-23-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kentmo280z (Post 3089640)
Check that... cancelled the Berks, they're back ordered forever, ordered the Fast Intention resonated pipes instead... over priced , but... want to keep things moving..


What you need is non-resonated test pipes and a set of these 100 cell cats

http://www.the370z.com/members/zat_z...cell-twins.jpg


Ask Tony, for some ;)

Zat_Zuma 01-23-2015 08:57 AM

Actually I may even have some exhaust pieces, left over, that I ran with my 1.0 kit and I reached 12 lbs of boost

kentmo280z 01-23-2015 11:04 AM

I actually sent Z1 a question asking the lead time on their resonated test pipes.
Their answer to me was : "Did you place an order?"
That was all they wrote in reply. What kind of answer is that?

When I was looking into upgrade clutches , I emailed Z1 for final pricing on what I needed, they said they would put a number together and get right back with me. I never heard back ...
They lost about $2k worth of business due to their lack of customer service.

On the other hand, Joe from Z speed, Kevin from Fast Intentions and Todd from Vivid Racing
have been very accommodating and professional. Kudos to them!!!


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