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JWillis72 08-27-2014 05:45 PM

Anyone take their boosted Z it a Nissan dealer?
 
Monday I had my CSF triple pass radiator installed but unfortunately my AC compressor isn't coming on now. It spent yesterday at the shop and they can not figure out why. It spent today at one of the best AC shops in town and I guess Nissan has it locked down to where only their computers can tell whats wrong. So I take it to Nissan and the service department watched me pull in, as soon as I get to the counter a salesman asked " what did you do to that poor car?" I answered with " made it fast like Nissan should have done from the start!" and he walked away. The service lady starts asking about the mods before I told her what the problem was and was acting freaked out about it. After we talk a bit she says "I don't know if we can work on that, lets go talk to one of my GTR techs" and we walked to the garage. He asked to see the car and after looking at it he said " I can work on it but it might be a little extra labor" and I said fine. Anyone else had an experience like that? It just seem odd since a lot of dealer sell the Stillen kits.

NoLaKrewe 08-27-2014 06:01 PM

Run. Run. Run now and far away. Before you pay more to fix it at Nissan then your whole FI kit and labor.

1slow370 08-27-2014 06:13 PM

this is gonna sound funny but take it to pep boys and see if they can figure it out, they have a proprietary reader package from snap-on that can do the crazy little things you need consult for, like the steering angle reset. They may be able to do it for you, they may not but it worth a shot before you pay $600 for the dealer to do it.

JWillis72 08-27-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2945323)
this is gonna sound funny but take it to pep boys and see if they can figure it out, they have a proprietary reader package from snap-on that can do the crazy little things you need consult for, like the steering angle reset. They may be able to do it for you, they may not but it worth a shot before you pay $600 for the dealer to do it.

Thank you! I will give that a shot, I had know idea they had equipment like that. It can't hurt to try before the Nissan bleeding.

phunk 08-27-2014 06:57 PM

If it was working before you put in the radiator, and stopped immediately after putting in the radiator, its got to be something simple and related to the work just done on the car!

JWillis72 08-27-2014 07:07 PM

I'm sure it does, they tried telling me it didn't have anything to do with them. I walked out and told them we will talk when I know what it is. The owner of the shop called me this morning and was very nice and concerned. I just want to know what it is and get it fixed then I'll worry about who is paying the bill.


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phunk 08-27-2014 07:10 PM

Has anyone made sure everything is plugged back in, and that the system was recharged?

JWillis72 08-27-2014 07:15 PM

They spend all day trying to figure out what was wrong and I took it myself to get it recharged. It has spent two days at two different shops and no one can figure it out.


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phunk 08-27-2014 07:20 PM

Make sure the pressure sensor is plugged in (located on passenger side of AC condensor, on top of the "liquid tank").

Make sure the ambient sensor is plugged in (located in front of radiator, right in the middle).

JWillis72 08-27-2014 07:22 PM

AC shop said both were working.

phunk 08-27-2014 07:24 PM

I would still take a look personally, chances are they just didnt plug something in. All you have to do is pop the hood and look right at them. They are both right in the area of the radiator and were messed with during the radiator install.

JWillis72 08-27-2014 07:29 PM

I'm sorry maybe I didn't explain that right, I have looked and they are plugged in. What I meant was the AC shop confirmed they are working on their computer. I have looked and looked with both shops and in our warehouse. I don't see anything. I will look again tomorrow.


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phunk 08-27-2014 07:39 PM

My bet is that the ambient sensor in front of the radiator is not plugged in. I would doubt that most shops would think to check that.

I just checked in my car by unplugging it, and it definitely shuts off the compressor when unplugged, even though the AC control light is on as if the compressor was.

A way to check this without even popping the hood is to turn your key on and see if the multigauge displays the outside temperature or if it says "---". No reading = not plugged in.

After you pass that test I will shut up about everything being plugged in :)

JWillis72 08-27-2014 07:52 PM

Please don't shut up, I was looking for advise. I will check that tomorrow and report back. I'm next to positive that was on the display when I picked the car up from the AC shop but I'll check again, thats way easier than the Nissan bill!

nomodsjk 08-27-2014 08:18 PM

Oh my freaking god!!!!!! I had the exact same thing happen bro. I had my CSF radiator installed by Nissan and my ac compressor did the same freaking thing. I also have a stillen SC and they charged me 1,014$ for the install and had their gtr tech do it lol. Outcome not good!!!!!

nomodsjk 08-27-2014 08:19 PM

Check out my thread under warranty/maintenance section entitled install nightmare of new CSF radiator!!! Its about a month old!!!

Spooler 08-27-2014 09:06 PM

LOL, Not another one...

Mike 08-27-2014 09:12 PM

Mine isn't FI, but it is extremely modified. When I had a random abs issue, I called the dealership, they asked if it was modded and if so, what, and I told them pretty much everything was modded and I wasn't expecting warranty work, just wanted it fixed. They worked on it, found the problem and didn't charge me anything, as it was just a rubber deposit randomly getting in the way of the ABS sensor. I think they acutally liked having the racecar in the dealership and having people look at it.

I've been thinking of asking if I can store it in their showroom instead of my rental locker!

Spooler 08-27-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 2945479)
Check out my thread under warranty/maintenance section entitled install nightmare of new CSF radiator!!! Its about a month old!!!

I did read what your A/C fix was. I can't find it in the thread.

Spooler 08-27-2014 09:21 PM

My suggestion would be to start from scratch. Have a vacuum pulled on it and check for leaks first. If it will hold a vacuum at -29 in/hg, have them add 4 oz. of A/C oil due to condenser replacement and receiver/dryer replacement. You do that after you have tested to see if it will hold a vacuum for 30min. If it won't hold a vacuum, get the leaks fixed at the receiver/dryer or A/C lines. Make sure all of the O'rings were replaced with new and oil applied before assembly.


I hate to say it but most tech's these days don't have the brain power to work on the cars of today. When it comes to electronics, they are dumbfounded.

nomodsjk 08-27-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 2945541)
I did read what your A/C fix was. I can't find it in the thread.

That's because they never figured it out! I have two threads in that same section but its a lot to read through for the vague results I got. The answer I pretty much ended with is there are so many mods to the car that all happened around the same time that its beyond us to figure it out. Been having issues ever since but it should be fixed soon. I'll update ASAP

JWillis72 08-28-2014 06:11 AM

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JWillis72 08-28-2014 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 2945479)
Check out my thread under warranty/maintenance section entitled install nightmare of new CSF radiator!!! Its about a month old!!!

Thanks for the nightmares! That sucks, please let us know how it turns out.

JWillis72 08-28-2014 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2945537)
Mine isn't FI, but it is extremely modified. When I had a random abs issue, I called the dealership, they asked if it was modded and if so, what, and I told them pretty much everything was modded and I wasn't expecting warranty work, just wanted it fixed. They worked on it, found the problem and didn't charge me anything, as it was just a rubber deposit randomly getting in the way of the ABS sensor. I think they acutally liked having the racecar in the dealership and having people look at it.

I've been thinking of asking if I can store it in their showroom instead of my rental locker!

In South West Florida it's all old people driving these cars.

nomodsjk 08-28-2014 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2945744)
Thanks for the nightmares! That sucks, please let us know how it turns out.

Sorry bro just relaying the info. I'll let you know ASAP

ANMVQ 08-28-2014 07:12 AM

I used to take my SC car the Infiniti dealer never had an issue till they screwed the car up and the engine blew up, and then denied everything. Now my bolted car the dealer( different ! one) Loves the car talks to me about it all the time :) Depends were you go some really don't care and other are afraid to touch anything, Ive heard stories of FI guys being denied an Oil change at the dealer :/

Hope you iron this out! FL is hot man,

roplusbee 08-28-2014 07:48 AM

Before I got reassigned to Korea, I took my car to a dealer in Austin for service(s). They took care of me every time and the same mechanic did the work. I just made an appointment, showed up, waited a couple hours, paid, and was on my way!

JWillis72 08-28-2014 08:39 AM

Car is at pep boys, fingers crossed!


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JARblue 08-28-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2945791)
Before I got reassigned to Korea, I took my car to a dealer in Austin for service(s). They took care of me every time and the same mechanic did the work. I just made an appointment, showed up, waited a couple hours, paid, and was on my way!

I wish they were still like that. If I'm not mistaken this is the same dealership that recently told me they wouldn't do brake work on my Z because I have aftermarket rotors :shakes head:

Not that I would let them work on my Z, but I asked them specifically about service on modified cars. When that gave me a flat "no" for an answer, I gave him a scenario for brake work. They said they wouldn't do it because they didn't want to be held responsible for someone else's poor work. Really? I have 25K miles on my rotors that I replaced myself, and you guys won't even install new pads or do a brake fluid flush, neither of which require touching the rotors? That just seems ridiculous to me...

JARblue 08-28-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2945852)
Car is at pep boys, fingers crossed!

GL!!

JWillis72 08-28-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2945875)
GL!!

Thanks!

jwick 08-28-2014 09:26 AM

I took my modded NA G (Gen 3, Berk HFC, CBE and a bunch of non-drivetrain mods) to the Infiniti dealer and they performed all work under warranty unless the mod caused the issue (had to eat the AC repair for the Gen 3 rubbing a hole in the line. It pays to read installation instructions kids!). The only time they mentioned having to pay extra is if they had to remove a mod that was more than just a replacement part.

When I told my service manager I was installing the turbo I was specifically told they would no longer service my car at all even if it was a non-warranty item that I was paying for.

I went to the Infiniti dealer here that installs Stillen SC kits and the manager told me that he would cover anything under warranty as long as it wasn't directly related to the turbo install.

Short story long, it all depends on the dealer whether they give you hassle for mods.

theDreamer 08-28-2014 09:36 AM

Jwick is correct, a good dealer will warranty work which does not directly related to what mods you did.
Heck, even some will do some warranty or repair work because they put the best tech on it and get to charge the "premium" price. Now, this does not mean they can charge extra just because it is modded. It just means you are not having the oil change guy who bills out $25 an hour rate working on the car.

Also, mine goes to a dealer and they are fine with it (they are the ones who did the install).

ANMVQ 08-28-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2945913)
I took my modded NA G (Gen 3, Berk HFC, CBE and a bunch of non-drivetrain mods) to the Infiniti dealer and they performed all work under warranty unless the mod caused the issue (had to eat the AC repair for the Gen 3 rubbing a hole in the line. It pays to read installation instructions kids!). The only time they mentioned having to pay extra is if they had to remove a mod that was more than just a replacement part.

When I told my service manager I was installing the turbo I was specifically told they would no longer service my car at all even if it was a non-warranty item that I was paying for.

I went to the Infiniti dealer here that installs Stillen SC kits and the manager told me that he would cover anything under warranty as long as it wasn't directly related to the turbo install.

Short story long, it all depends on the dealer whether they give you hassle for mods.


be carful with that last line " warranty as long as it wasn't directly related to the turbo install." I had mine in writing from the installing dealer and still got raked over the coals when my motor went boom, An was the dealers fault.

JWillis72 08-28-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2945323)
this is gonna sound funny but take it to pep boys and see if they can figure it out, they have a proprietary reader package from snap-on that can do the crazy little things you need consult for, like the steering angle reset. They may be able to do it for you, they may not but it worth a shot before you pay $600 for the dealer to do it.

Thank you for the suggestion!

I can't believe how impressed I am with Pep Boys, their equipment is showing the sun sensor in the drivers side dash is not working. They had to order one so I wont know if this will fix it until Saturday, fingers still crossed because I still think there might be a pinched wire or something.

How much does A/C affect oil temps? After changing the radiator and moving the coolers around I am seeing oil temps lower than I have ever seen in this car. When the car is warmed up I usually sit in the low 180s but right now I haven't seen it pass 165 and it is hot as hell right now. Could not running the A/C bring it down that much? The only time I don't have the A/C on is at the track so I don't have anything to compare it to.

JWillis72 08-28-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2945921)
Jwick is correct, a good dealer will warranty work which does not directly related to what mods you did.
Heck, even some will do some warranty or repair work because they put the best tech on it and get to charge the "premium" price. Now, this does not mean they can charge extra just because it is modded. It just means you are not having the oil change guy who bills out $25 an hour rate working on the car.

Also, mine goes to a dealer and they are fine with it (they are the ones who did the install).

Just 1 more reason I should live in Texas!

theDreamer 08-28-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2946174)
Just 1 more reason I should live in Texas!

It all comes down to the dealer, some see modded cars and get scarred where others see more revenue and jump to work on the cars.

JARblue 08-28-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2946179)
It all comes down to the dealer, some see modded cars and get scarred where others see more revenue and jump to work on the cars.

:iagree:

Not all dealers are the same. Houston apparently has better ones than Austin, though.

JWillis72 08-28-2014 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2946179)
It all comes down to the dealer, some see modded cars and get scarred where others see more revenue and jump to work on the cars.

I would be in Texas if it wasn't for my Job, I couldn't make the money I do if I moved away from the rich people.

theDreamer 08-28-2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2946201)
I would be in Texas if it wasn't for my Job, I couldn't make the money I do if I moved away from the rich people.

:icon18:
Plenty of rich people here also in Houston.


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