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Hotrodz 05-01-2015 12:28 AM

Yup, I would go with it if it was available here. Be careful with those maps, I always recommend that you call those stations that you are not familiar with, because they show that we have e85 here in Kingman but there is none and never has been any.

GeauxTigers1 05-01-2015 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3184719)
Yup, I would go with it if it was available here. Be careful with those maps, I always recommend that you call those stations that you are not familiar with, because they show that we have e85 here in Kingman but there is none and never has been any.

HA! That would be the worst! Just adding to the homework I suppose! I have a station 5 minutes away that's on that map, but I definitely should call them before making any executive decisions. It's the only one around that came up.

phunk 05-01-2015 12:51 PM

Forget the maps and apps, they arent trusthworthy. Just pay attention for a couple weeks and look at the gas stations.

E85 pumps are generally yellow handle. I think that some diesel pumps have yellow too though so make sure and take a good look. They rarely advertise it, and they rarely have it on the large price per gallon sign. Only those who actually look for it would know it is there. Roughly half the gas stations that have it here, have it at some obscure pump off to the side like where an old pay phone would have been or something. Others put it right in with the other pumps, or its even in a pump that also has regular gas, but an extra pump handle for E85.

Good availability is a really relative term. Here in Chicago area, one in maybe ~20 gas stations I know to have it. Some would say that is "hard to get". I would argue.

My 370z was always a daily driver... but if I only drove it to work and back it would have maybe 20,000 miles on it rather than over 60,000. I unnecessarily rack up 10's of thousands of miles on the car purely for fun... so it would be difficult for me to make a strong argument towards an unwillingness to travel up to 10 minutes out of my way for a special gas that allows my car to be far safer at high power.

I was the first of my friends to convert. I resisted for years with the same concern. Turned out it was no big deal. Now all my friends have converted.

My car never leaves the state, so I dont worry about availability for road trips. But if road trips were a concern, I would have a second tune for lower boost and 91/93 and still use E85 locally.

jwick 05-01-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3185427)
Forget the maps and apps, they arent trusthworthy. Just pay attention for a couple weeks and look at the gas stations.

E85 pumps are generally yellow handle. I think that some diesel pumps have yellow too though so make sure and take a good look. They rarely advertise it, and they rarely have it on the large price per gallon sign. Only those who actually look for it would know it is there. Roughly half the gas stations that have it here, have it at some obscure pump off to the side like where an old pay phone would have been or something. Others put it right in with the other pumps, or its even in a pump that also has regular gas, but an extra pump handle for E85.

Good availability is a really relative term. Here in Chicago area, one in maybe ~20 gas stations I know to have it. Some would say that is "hard to get". I would argue.

My 370z was always a daily driver... but if I only drove it to work and back it would have maybe 20,000 miles on it rather than over 60,000. I unnecessarily rack up 10's of thousands of miles on the car purely for fun... so it would be difficult for me to make a strong argument towards an unwillingness to travel up to 10 minutes out of my way for a special gas that allows my car to be far safer at high power.

I was the first of my friends to convert. I resisted for years with the same concern. Turned out it was no big deal. Now all my friends have converted.

My car never leaves the state, so I dont worry about availability for road trips. But if road trips were a concern, I would have a second tune for lower boost and 91/93 and still use E85 locally.

I'm strongly lean towards the two map setup you mentioned. The G is now my toy and only comes out to play. It's never driven in bad weather nor does anybody get behind the wheel other than me and my tuner. I could easily sacrifice the WG or Valet tune to allow for individual 93 and E85 maps. WG tune probably makes the most since considering I only have a High/Low boost setting.

Guess my future fuel return is going to cost me a pump and a bigger set of injectors

tonyHTX 05-01-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3185433)
Guess my future fuel return is going to cost me a pump and a bigger set of injectors

Group buy discount? I'm patiently waiting for Charles' HR rails (and by patient I mean sending him messages every other day asking pleading for an update :bowrofl:)

GeauxTigers1 05-01-2015 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3185427)
Forget the maps and apps, they arent trusthworthy. Just pay attention for a couple weeks and look at the gas stations.

E85 pumps are generally yellow handle. I think that some diesel pumps have yellow too though so make sure and take a good look. They rarely advertise it, and they rarely have it on the large price per gallon sign. Only those who actually look for it would know it is there. Roughly half the gas stations that have it here, have it at some obscure pump off to the side like where an old pay phone would have been or something. Others put it right in with the other pumps, or its even in a pump that also has regular gas, but an extra pump handle for E85.

Good availability is a really relative term. Here in Chicago area, one in maybe ~20 gas stations I know to have it. Some would say that is "hard to get". I would argue.

My 370z was always a daily driver... but if I only drove it to work and back it would have maybe 20,000 miles on it rather than over 60,000. I unnecessarily rack up 10's of thousands of miles on the car purely for fun... so it would be difficult for me to make a strong argument towards an unwillingness to travel up to 10 minutes out of my way for a special gas that allows my car to be far safer at high power.

I was the first of my friends to convert. I resisted for years with the same concern. Turned out it was no big deal. Now all my friends have converted.

My car never leaves the state, so I dont worry about availability for road trips. But if road trips were a concern, I would have a second tune for lower boost and 91/93 and still use E85 locally.

This is awesome advice. Glad to hear a review from someone that took the plunge and uses it often! Thanks man, I think you've convinced me! ;) Can't wait!!! Now I'm just hesitant if I want to pull the trigger now or wait until after the summer. 120 degree dry heat is god awful for our boosted cars.

jwick 05-01-2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3185847)
This is awesome advice. Glad to hear a review from someone that took the plunge and uses it often! Thanks man, I think you've convinced me! ;) Can't wait!!! Now I'm just hesitant if I want to pull the trigger now or wait until after the summer. 120 degree dry heat is god awful for our boosted cars.


Don't I know. 100 deg and 100% humidity here in TX for three months a year.

FYI...Phunk is your one stop shop for fuel setups:tup:

GeauxTigers1 05-02-2015 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3185849)
Don't I know. 100 deg and 100% humidity here in TX for three months a year.

FYI...Phunk is your one stop shop for fuel setups:tup:

I feel like the humidity at least helps the motor! Dry heat it doesn't have any moisture in the air to cool! BLAH, both suck! I remember driving the old Z to cali and the second we got close to water, the AC was cooler and the car SCREAMED. Miss it....may be one of the first things I do boosted! After I do my e85 homework though right?:ughdance:

john26jm 05-02-2015 02:06 AM

Well e85 burns cooler and makes it safer to boost is that the home work

GeauxTigers1 05-02-2015 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by john26jm (Post 3185930)
Well e85 burns cooler and makes it safer to boost is that the home work

HAHA! That is in the instructions...but the homework is finding the damn gas station to make sure whereever you are going, you won't run out of gas! LOL! I love that everyone seems to be all "pro" for e85, just makes me feel that much better about going that way.

john26jm 05-02-2015 02:32 AM

Lol not pro just had to do some home work on it to before I used it but yeah like in my town there is only one gas station

john26jm 05-02-2015 02:33 AM

http://www.ethanolretailer.com/flex-fuel-station-finder. Try this website or download the app flexfinder

COSMO 05-02-2015 06:34 AM

Nice find, thanks for the contribution to the forum..:ugh2:


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Originally Posted by john26jm (Post 3185936)
Flex Fuel Station Finder |*Ethanol Retailer. Try this website or download the app flexfinder


KratikosG37 05-02-2015 10:25 AM

Thanks for the link.

Come to find out they do have a E85 pump about 20 miles from me

Bad news is it's in the heart of New Orleans. King of pot holes, and bad traffic.:/

12 psi 93 octane tune will be my only option as of this time.

john26jm 05-02-2015 10:26 AM

Or you can do two tunes one for e85 and one 93 octane


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