* AAM Competition's 370Z Twin Turbocharger System *

tonyHTX · 03-07-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp

Awesome! How'd it go?

Only big issue is the passenger return line was routed up around the oil filter so some oil got backed up into the turbo and smoked up the place. That got fixed before the video was taken though. Hopefully I should be driving her around to break in the motor next week!

Patrick@AAMComp · 03-07-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

Only big issue is the passenger return line was routed up around the oil filter so some oil got backed up into the turbo and smoked up the place. That got fixed before the video was taken though. Hopefully I should be driving her around to break in the motor next week!

Looking forward to your feedback!

Is JTrans going to tune the car?

tonyHTX · 03-07-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp

Looking forward to your feedback!

Is JTrans going to tune the car?

Yessir JTran will be doing the tuning on their Dynojet

Aviator44 · 03-08-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS

yes, I have installed the kit on my own car as well. However, I tried to do something a little different than your situation. I opted to test fit an aftermarket wastegate design with no luck. The canisters are far too large for the space provided to work with, so I decided to stick with the factory high boost BW wastegate actuators.

Aviator - in all honesty the amount of material he removed for the mount probably has little to no effect on the rigidity or integrity of the mount. Its very well built, and I would argue its probably stronger even than the cast aluminum ones that come factory on the car.

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp

Ryan, maybe this will help answer what I think you are asking. Borg Warner designed the recirculating valves to reduce lag when you're off the throttle (e.g. shifting gears). Instead of dumping out through an atmospheric blow off valve, they recirculate back through the compressor housing to provide faster response once you're back on the throttle. The hybrid versions give you the staple bov sound (though it may be a bit quieter) yet still provide some benefit from the recirculating setup.

I see where the confusion is coming from now

. I didn't mean to imply him running full vta bovs instead of the 50/50. I was asking about his choice of mounting location. I understand the EFRs built in features and their benefits. I also understand though the desire to sacrifice some of the benefits of full recirc in order to gain that distinctive bov sound with a dual port.

I was curious why he decided to cut the mount (potentially sacrificing its strength) and bolt the Turbosmart Dual ports directly to the EFR Turbos rather than spending the extra time to weld flanges for them. I haven't seen the mount "pre-cut" so I wasn't sure how much material had been removed or if it was jeopardizing the mounts structural integrity. As Rid3_Famous pointed out this shouldn't be a concern so Tonys method will work just fine.

tonyHTX · 03-08-2015, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aviator44

I see where the confusion is coming from now

. I didn't mean to imply him running full vta bovs instead of the 50/50. I was asking about his choice of mounting location. I understand the EFRs built in features and their benefits. I also understand though the desire to sacrifice some of the benefits of full recirc in order to gain that distinctive bov sound with a dual port.

I was curious why he decided to cut the mount (potentially sacrificing its strength) and bolt the Turbosmart Dual ports directly to the EFR Turbos rather than spending the extra time to weld flanges for them. I haven't seen the mount "pre-cut" so I wasn't sure how much material had been removed or if it was jeopardizing the mounts structural integrity. As Rid3_Famous pointed out this shouldn't be a concern so Tonys method will work just fine.

I think that is where the confusion is. Because of the design of the CRV being in the housing, I don't think it is possible to relocate it. Or if there is, there isn't any off the shelf product that can do it. Since it seemed like you were suggesting to use the block off plate and adding flanges to the charge pipes I think we all misunderstood, as using the block off plates means recirculation is no longer possible.

Here is how the mount looks uncut. I think the bulk of the support is the gusset area as opposed to what was removed. Probanly 2/3rds of the M is missing now on mine.

Also I posted a video of the first start in case you missed it, although the sound is kind of bad it can give you a slight idea. I'll definitely be recording more in the future!

Edit: Here is the link again

Aviator44 · 03-08-2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

I think that is where the confusion is. Because of the design of the CRV being in the housing, I don't think it is possible to relocate it. Or if there is, there isn't any off the shelf product that can do it. Since it seemed like you were suggesting to use the block off plate and adding flanges to the charge pipes I think we all misunderstood, as using the block off plates means recirculation is no longer possible.

Here is how the mount looks uncut. I think the bulk of the support is the gusset area as opposed to what was removed. Probanly 2/3rds of the M is missing now on mine.

Also I posted a video of the first start in case you missed it, although the sound is kind of bad it can give you a slight idea. I'll definitely be recording more in the future!

Edit: Here is the link again http://youtu.be/kKjneBGcmMU

Now I'm a bit confused. I spoke with the Borg Warner guys at their booth at the PRI show in Indy a few months back. I asked them about doing this. They made it seem like It was possible to disable the built in recirculation of the EFR and run a dual port on flanges. It would have to be plumbed like a traditional recirculation setup where it would send the air back into the intake side. It would be like the setups that run full recirc bov but utilize turbos that do not have recirc built in. Either way your method is clearly the better route seeing that you were able to run dual ports with minimal modification. Video looks good! Look forward to more!

Rid3_FaM0uS · 03-08-2015, 10:49 PM

It's very much so possible Ryan. I understand what you're saying I think that most people think that the convenience items (I.e. built in BoVs, speed sensors, and internal gates) are the only way you can go with these turbos; when in reality they can be modified for all of the traditional turbocharged "creature items". There are options to build a recirc system in the charge piping as you are understanding. Personally I would say its kind of one of those "six-half dozen-another" deals to either cut two holes in your charge piping and weld to flanges plus purchase external charge air valves or do as such tony did and grind the clearance for what you need to make the aftermarket designed iteration of their rapid vent and bolt them right in place of the current factory vent. Personally, it's kinda nice to have seen what tony has done and pulled off here because its showing us once again that there are plenty of aftermarket support for these turbos just as a traditional PTE or Garrett turbocharger has.

tonyHTX · 03-09-2015, 05:12 AM

Ok now I understand what you were trying to say. I think the only possible issue with that scenario is that if you do put a dual port on the charge piping than it would most likely be done post MAF and that could cause a rich condition since the ECU would have accounted for the air already whereas the EFR CRV design vents right back into the turbo inlet keeping the MAF system undisturbed. I think when I said no longer possible I should have specified in the way the EFR CRV was designed.

But, someone please correct me if I am wrong because I am a little new to this turbocharging business after all.

tonyHTX · 03-12-2015, 08:10 AM

Just a few more things left to do..

tonyHTX · 03-12-2015, 01:18 PM

Video from yesterday:

john26jm · 03-19-2015, 04:58 PM

Who here is using the evc 6 boost controller

Rid3_FaM0uS · 03-20-2015, 01:58 PM

im on the EVC 6 IR as of this week and the EVC 5 prior to it

GeauxTigers1 · 04-01-2015, 12:16 AM

Q - Will there be a presale?
A - Yes! We will be offering a 370Z presale to members of this community only (we will also be offering a presale of the 350Z version of our twin turbocharger systems on another forum). The details of the presale will be released shortly but bottom line - only members of this forum will be eligible and there will be a discount offered. The presale will only last for a short period of time and will be limited to an set number of systems.

Is this still a thing!? Or did I miss it

warpeacelove · 04-01-2015, 10:42 PM

@AMM; Whatever happen to developing a kit for the AWD platform?

ANMVQ · 04-02-2015, 07:53 AM

I don't think they have one yet :/.

ME!!! ME !!!

03-08-2015, 10:49 PM	#442 (permalink)
Rid3_FaM0uS Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wapakoneta, Ohio Posts: 506 Drives: 2011 BS Nismo 370z Rep Power: 44	It's very much so possible Ryan. I understand what you're saying I think that most people think that the convenience items (I.e. built in BoVs, speed sensors, and internal gates) are the only way you can go with these turbos; when in reality they can be modified for all of the traditional turbocharged "creature items". There are options to build a recirc system in the charge piping as you are understanding. Personally I would say its kind of one of those "six-half dozen-another" deals to either cut two holes in your charge piping and weld to flanges plus purchase external charge air valves or do as such tony did and grind the clearance for what you need to make the aftermarket designed iteration of their rapid vent and bolt them right in place of the current factory vent. Personally, it's kinda nice to have seen what tony has done and pulled off here because its showing us once again that there are plenty of aftermarket support for these turbos just as a traditional PTE or Garrett turbocharger has. tonyHTX likes this. __________________ Always under construction. . .

03-09-2015, 05:12 AM	#443 (permalink)
tonyHTX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 254 Drives: Race, Repair, Repeat Rep Power: 4638	Ok now I understand what you were trying to say. I think the only possible issue with that scenario is that if you do put a dual port on the charge piping than it would most likely be done post MAF and that could cause a rich condition since the ECU would have accounted for the air already whereas the EFR CRV design vents right back into the turbo inlet keeping the MAF system undisturbed. I think when I said no longer possible I should have specified in the way the EFR CRV was designed. But, someone please correct me if I am wrong because I am a little new to this turbocharging business after all. __________________ 2007 G37S [VQ37HR] Sedan 6MT - Fast Intentions Stage 3 TT - @ttv36 #tptoons Last edited by tonyHTX; 03-09-2015 at 05:32 AM.

03-12-2015, 08:10 AM	#444 (permalink)
tonyHTX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 254 Drives: Race, Repair, Repeat Rep Power: 4638	Just a few more things left to do.. john26jm, jwick, ANMVQ and 4 others like this. __________________ 2007 G37S [VQ37HR] Sedan 6MT - Fast Intentions Stage 3 TT - @ttv36 #tptoons

03-12-2015, 01:18 PM	#445 (permalink)
tonyHTX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 254 Drives: Race, Repair, Repeat Rep Power: 4638	Video from yesterday: john26jm and Pro4Jackster like this. __________________ 2007 G37S [VQ37HR] Sedan 6MT - Fast Intentions Stage 3 TT - @ttv36 #tptoons Last edited by tonyHTX; 04-14-2015 at 12:18 PM.

03-20-2015, 01:58 PM	#447 (permalink)
Rid3_FaM0uS Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wapakoneta, Ohio Posts: 506 Drives: 2011 BS Nismo 370z Rep Power: 44	im on the EVC 6 IR as of this week and the EVC 5 prior to it __________________ Always under construction. . .

03-19-2015, 04:58 PM	#446 (permalink)
john26jm Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: el paso Posts: 58 Drives: 2013 nismo 370z Rep Power: 14	Who here is using the evc 6 boost controller

04-01-2015, 12:16 AM	#448 (permalink)
GeauxTigers1 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 590 Drives: 2017 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 6744	Q - Will there be a presale? A - Yes! We will be offering a 370Z presale to members of this community only (we will also be offering a presale of the 350Z version of our twin turbocharger systems on another forum). The details of the presale will be released shortly but bottom line - only members of this forum will be eligible and there will be a discount offered. The presale will only last for a short period of time and will be limited to an set number of systems. Is this still a thing!? Or did I miss it carlitos_370z likes this.

04-01-2015, 10:42 PM	#449 (permalink)
warpeacelove Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NY Posts: 281 Drives: G37x GTM TT Rep Power: 13	@AMM; Whatever happen to developing a kit for the AWD platform?

04-02-2015, 07:53 AM	#450 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	I don't think they have one yet :/. ME!!! ME !!! __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

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