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only kit I can get here in Aus is $10.5k and it's basically the exact same as the original GTM stage 1 kit, which for me is just way overpriced, none of the other US kits will fit the RHD setup. So would really have to get someone local to do a turbo setup, aka guinea pig, which I really don't want to be around here.. so unfortunately it's kind of do these upgrades or nothing really. |
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He's for sure telling the truth, If I could go back and do it again, I'd left it alone at 412 WHP. The 457 WHP for 3 days wasn't worth the upgrade cost, the 9 months after I didn't have the car and all the $$$ I lost.
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Mikeeeey !!!
Everything we have been saying is true ... I dyno'd at 483 whp after the $k$$$'s upgrade ... Made only 63 whp over the original Stillen kit (420 whp). Gained only .1 sec at the drag strip - that's Point 1 sec. ! Only made the one run before the motor left the building. I'm again without the car looking at another 9 months in the shop. More Time and More Money. Had I to do it again ... I would have Built the MOTOR the right way in the first place, instead of Bolting on. |
haha all good guys! I'll take your advice and just leave it alone!
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Hasn't it been proved over and over again that you should never upgrade the Stillen SC?
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Put your hard earned $bucks$ first into a built motor and then you can do what you want to do :-) |
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What Gives ??? How does this all fit together ??? Another article states that some MAF’s have incorpated an IAT into it’s construction. Is it possible to electrically separate the IAT from the MAF/IAT and ‘wire in’ an IAT post IC ? Is this feasible? I have an email in to UpRev concerning this question …. waiting waiting waiting. BTW – Do you Turbo guys ever blow motors ??? Below are some useful links: Discussion on Miata Forum – utilizing both MAF and MAP Is one really better than the other: MAF/MAP based tuning - MX-5 Miata Forum Stillen SC’r Instructions go to page 15 Plenum/MAP sensor http://www.stillen.com/prodfiles/407770~inst.pdf Air Intake Temperature AIT Tuning Modify Fuel Map ECU Air Intake Temperature AIT Tuning Modify Fuel Map ECU MAP Sensor Vs. MAF Sensor MAP Sensor VS. Maf Sensor | Tuning MAP sensors | Evo Maf MAP + IAT vs MAF MAP & IAT vs. MAF « |
Yep, we've got both a MAP and MAF. From my knowledge the MAF provides the IAT data, hence the problem with the Stillen plumbing. No idea if you can unmarry the two. Turbo guys blow motors too, but it seems the Stillen kit likes to detonate at a far lower power level than guys run with no issues on turbo setups. That's why I'm almost convinced that it's because of bad data from the MAF since it's pre-compressor. Lots of factory FI cars run a draw through MAF setup, but they're tuned by the manufacturer to account for it.
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Brrrrr
Now looking to send out the Frozen Boost and Stillen Manifold to the radiator shop to braze in some larger ports ~ larger hoses ~ a 12" fan in front of the heat exchanger ~ and replacing the Stillen kit Bosch circulating pump with a larger flow aftermarket (Mercedes) one.
By Golly, we'll get some COLD air in there for sure !!! |
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