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clkio 12-26-2014 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 3064423)
So had my kit on now for a few months, next lot of upgrades are in the works; this will be done in the next 3-6 months.

stock clutch is getting smelly! so not driving it too hard lately, just the odd run here and there, waiting on my new clutch kit to arrive (probably 4-5 weeks cause of xmas/new years), getting a southbend stage 3 daily kit with the lighter flywheel etc. Will get this in, have tune double checked at another shop recently recommended to me, A/F ratios atm look a bit high, but it's safe so it's fine at the moment.

While clutch is going in or soon after, I'm waiting on some pricing back from the Australian vortech distributor who does all the work here to upgrade the impeller on the unit + changing to a slightly smaller pulley again from the 9lb stillen kit, upgrading fuel system to E85 with a CJ Motorsports kit and get it re-tuned for the E85 all at the same time.

will let you guys know when done :)


BE VERY CAREFUL ENTERING THIS ZONE. UNLESS YOU GOT UPGRADED SHORT BLOCK, YOU ARE GOING TO BLOW UP YOUR MOTOR WITHIN DAYS. I ran 12.5 PSI on my stillen SC (UPGRADED COG, BLADES, pulleys, fuel pump) and my motor gave out after about a week.

Also ask ANMVQ, his engine in his g37 lasted three days after he did what you are planning on doing. My advise to you is unless you have a built bottom end, stay away from this idea all together.

Plz plz do your research before upgrading anything on that kit dude. If you want more power, get a twin turbo and run it on the stock engine at around 10psi, you will get more power than a SC and you wont blow up your motor. I have a built bottom end now and wish I went with a TT setup.

ANMVQ 12-26-2014 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 3065675)
yeah, no one was running E85 though, were any of the blown guys running the frozenboost heat exchanger upgrade as well?

I was :/ I started the frozenboost thing :). I had Injectors , pump, and the Frozenboost heat exchanger.

Chuck33079 12-26-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by clkio (Post 3065698)
BE VERY CAREFUL ENTERING THIS ZONE. UNLESS YOU GOT UPGRADED SHORT BLOCK, YOU ARE GOING TO BLOW UP YOUR MOTOR WITHIN DAYS. I ran 12.5 PSI on my stillen SC (UPGRADED COG, BLADES, pulleys, fuel pump) and my motor gave out after about a week.

Also ask ANMVQ, his engine in his g37 lasted three days after he did what you are planning on doing. My advise to you is unless you have a built bottom end, stay away from this idea all together.

Plz plz do your research before upgrading anything on that kit dude. If you want more power, get a twin turbo and run it on the stock engine at around 10psi, you will get more power than a SC and you wont blow up your motor. I have a built bottom end now and wish I went with a TT setup.

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3065703)
I was :/ I started the frozenboost thing :). I had Injectors , pump, and the Frozenboost heat exchanger.

Had either of you addressed the maf location on your builds? I'm convinced that's why Stillen kits have blown motors. Measuring air temp and density before the compressor and intercooler scares the hell out of me.

ANMVQ 12-26-2014 09:02 AM

I hadn't, An we spoke about that during my build also, I spoke to Sasha about that same thing.

Chuck33079 12-26-2014 09:10 AM

How is the ecu supposed to accurately add fuel when it only has a maf reading before the air is compressed, heated and then ran through the intercooler? It's no surprise they go "Boom" when you raise the boost.

clkio 12-26-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3065766)
How is the ecu supposed to accurately add fuel when it only has a maf reading before the air is compressed, heated and then ran through the intercooler? It's no surprise they go "Boom" when you raise the boost.

I am gone ask my tuner about this, I am running uprev maf sensors tho without frozen heat exchanger.

mikey1600 12-27-2014 10:45 PM

I don't have a built bottom end,

did you guys get anywhere with the MAF locations? any knowledge would help.

ANMVQ 12-28-2014 02:33 PM

I didnt get a chance to move mine :/

Z&I 12-28-2014 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3065730)
Had either of you addressed the maf location on your builds? I'm convinced that's why Stillen kits have blown motors. Measuring air temp and density before the compressor and intercooler scares the hell out of me.

Hey Chuck ...

Really interested here ...
My built motor is back here in New Jersey and it's almost ready to go back in the car ...
I like your thinking here, and would really appreciate your input as far as relocating the MAF's.
I want to feel confident in that I've done everything I can properly do to the motor to prevent another disaster.
Certainly don't want to blow it up again 'fer sure.

Need to know soon :tiphat:
Thanks !

gussyturbo z 12-28-2014 10:11 PM

Hey guys now you got me thinking!! I have the frozen boost on mine and my intake plenum temps are 47 degrees. It was 45 degrees today in texas the car was running really good it seem. Is that ok? Are you guys saying that you blew your engine with frozen boost? I'm confused..

mikey1600 12-29-2014 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gussyturbo z (Post 3067465)
Hey guys now you got me thinking!! I have the frozen boost on mine and my intake plenum temps are 47 degrees. It was 45 degrees today in texas the car was running really good it seem. Is that ok? Are you guys saying that you blew your engine with frozen boost? I'm confused..

ANMVQ had upgraded to the frozenboost heat exchanger when motor popped.

clkio was still running standard stillen heat exchanger when motor popped.

They are talking about moving the MAF's which are currently before the supercharger to a better location as the temp probably changes between where it's measured and where the air ends up entering the engine. Not sure where the best location would be though.

Anyone ran a water/meth kit also?

clkio 12-29-2014 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 3067545)
ANMVQ had upgraded to the frozenboost heat exchanger when motor popped.

clkio was still running standard stillen heat exchanger when motor popped.

They are talking about moving the MAF's which are currently before the supercharger to a better location as the temp probably changes between where it's measured and where the air ends up entering the engine. Not sure where the best location would be though.

Anyone ran a water/meth kit also?

I am currently working on it. I am really excited to see how much she will put down after meth as my engine is very low compression and my tuner doesn't think it will help alot with power. My engine spec
HBR performance built VQ37VHR Bore 3.7805 Stroke 3.460 Wiseco k643m96 dished 8.5:1 Pistons, Wiseco 9600 XS Rings, K1 Billet 4340 Steel H Beam connecting rods.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps485ccc00.jpg

ANMVQ 12-29-2014 07:24 AM

When I spoke to Chuck and Sasha on this the best place we talked about would be "after the SC" but there is no way to do that because Stillen goes to one intake pipe then splits at the TB's, You have to custom make in intake and there is no room for equal length pipes :/.. Unless you took off their mani and went with a ported stock one (Z1-M370) Idea tho :), you could probably make more power with 2 3inch pipes instead of the one Stillen intake pipe.

Chuck33079 12-29-2014 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3067634)
When I spoke to Chuck and Sasha on this the best place we talked about would be "after the SC" but there is no way to do that because Stillen goes to one intake pipe then splits at the TB's, You have to custom make in intake and there is no room for equal length pipes :/.. Unless you took off their mani and went with a ported stock one (Z1-M370) Idea tho :), you could probably make more power with 2 3inch pipes instead of the one Stillen intake pipe.

Yeah, it seems you would have to ditch everything but the supercharger and have someone make an air-to-air intercooler with a stock intake manifold.

ANMVQ 12-29-2014 08:13 AM

We talked about that also, EVOHUNTER is his screen name I thought at one time he was working with Sasha on building one, Don't remember what happened with it :/


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