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DEpointfive0 06-23-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2869906)
The lowest 4 fins or rows on the passenger side started leaking, like the welds each slowly came apart. Basically you could load it up with fluid by the end of the day there was none left in the system.

Did you contact them for warranty issues?

theDreamer 06-24-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2870566)
Did you contact them for warranty issues?

Yes, warranty on CSF radiator is full coverage for 2 years. I bought one of the first many many years ago and was out side of the warranty.

CSF Inc. 06-25-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2871999)
Yes, warranty on CSF radiator is full coverage for 2 years. I bought one of the first many many years ago and was out side of the warranty.

Dreamer,

I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with our original unit. I beleive I met you at Z Nationals a couple of years back as well?

If you ever have problems with the new unit, whether it's out of warranty or not, please PM me, and i'll take care of you.

Our warranty is 2 years, but I build out products to last much longer, and I hope that all our products last as long as the car.
- I'm not a salesmen coming on the forums to make excuses, and I hope every customer is happy with our products and customer service.

- this goes for anyone who has had a bad experience with our original radiator.

Nixlimited 06-25-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CSF Inc. (Post 2873778)
Dreamer,

I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with our original unit. I beleive I met you at Z Nationals a couple of years back as well?

If you ever have problems with the new unit, whether it's out of warranty or not, please PM me, and i'll take care of you.

Our warranty is 2 years, but I build out products to last much longer, and I hope that all our products last as long as the car.
- I'm not a salesmen coming on the forums to make excuses, and I hope every customer is happy with our products and customer service.

- this goes for anyone who has had a bad experience with our original radiator.

Thanks for supporting your products and our community! :tiphat:

Alstann 06-25-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2870283)
Perfect, thank you!

Glad I opened up this thread, haha. I couldn't remember your screen name, JWillis, but I peeked a couple of shots of your car at Sebring over last weekend:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...psa94b3b27.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...psf6a0ba7e.jpg

I was over on the other side, running the Auto-X course with MSCC. Probably the best $20 dollars on Auto-X I've ever spent - seeing all the road course cars going around was quite fun. Shoulda known to find your car on the paddock and introduce myself!

Anyhoo, back on topic. :tiphat:

theDreamer 06-25-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSF Inc. (Post 2873778)
Dreamer,

I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with our original unit. I beleive I met you at Z Nationals a couple of years back as well?

If you ever have problems with the new unit, whether it's out of warranty or not, please PM me, and i'll take care of you.

Our warranty is 2 years, but I build out products to last much longer, and I hope that all our products last as long as the car.
- I'm not a salesmen coming on the forums to make excuses, and I hope every customer is happy with our products and customer service.

- this goes for anyone who has had a bad experience with our original radiator.

No, was not me.
You and I spoke via email earlier this year (around april) as you (CSF) were on backorder with your stock and only Z1 had one left. So I had to buy from them, had my wedding and needed the car for photos at the wedding and could not wait on a replacement.

I have always liked my CSF radiator and until the leak had no problems. Was one of the first with boost and CSF and instantly saw my temps drop 10 degrees after install and driving. Only thing I wish you guys would do is either make an even bigger unit or 'upper' end one. I think this triple pass might do it, but it looks to be same capacity and having more might be allow it to do even better.

JWillis72 06-25-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2873884)
Glad I opened up this thread, haha. I couldn't remember your screen name, JWillis, but I peeked a couple of shots of your car at Sebring over last weekend:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...psa94b3b27.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...psf6a0ba7e.jpg

I was over on the other side, running the Auto-X course with MSCC. Probably the best $20 dollars on Auto-X I've ever spent - seeing all the road course cars going around was quite fun. Shoulda known to find your car on the paddock and introduce myself!

Anyhoo, back on topic. :tiphat:

Very cool, I will be back in October so if you go let me know and we will get together. That place is like Disney to me! The picture were Sunday morning during my check ride, I passed so I get to do it solo now!

Nixlimited 06-25-2014 08:51 PM

Which hood is that?

JWillis72 06-26-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2874679)
Which hood is that?

Carbon Creations Hot Wheels hood.

Alstann 06-30-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2874615)
Very cool, I will be back in October so if you go let me know and we will get together. That place is like Disney to me! The picture were Sunday morning during my check ride, I passed so I get to do it solo now!

Definitely man! That was my first time visiting Sebring, the place is incredible. I was supposed to go with a few friends for the 12hrs race a year ago, but couldn't make it.

I'll see if any HPDE events will line up for me that month. :driving:

Super Werty 07-04-2014 04:52 PM

I can report to you now that the CSF Triple pass is showing some amazing gains on my N/A Z. Temps were in the 225-230* range just driving around town, never going above 5K rpm. Now with the triple pass radiator temps stay around 180-195*. This is in 105* Arizona ambient temps. Also when coasting down a hill or any kind of letting off the gas the temps drops very quickly. As an added bonus the A/C is ridiculously cold now...45* to be exact lol

by the way, this further proves the OEM 12+ oil cooler is completely useless. Oil temps have not dropped at all. You would think a 30+*F reduction in coolant temp would affect it but nope. FI oil cooler goes on Monday!

DEpointfive0 07-04-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 2884266)
I can report to you now that the CSF Triple pass is showing some amazing gains on my N/A Z. Temps were in the 225-230* range just driving around town, never going above 5K rpm. Now with the triple pass radiator temps stay around 180-195*. This is in 105* Arizona ambient temps. Also when coasting down a hill or any kind of letting off the gas the temps drops very quickly. As an added bonus the A/C is ridiculously cold now...45* to be exact lol

by the way, this further proves the OEM 12+ oil cooler is completely useless. Oil temps have not dropped at all. You would think a 30+*F reduction in coolant temp would affect it but nope. FI oil cooler goes on Monday!

Wow... Legit

roplusbee 07-07-2014 02:39 AM

Aweaome. I may look into swapping sooner than later with that review.......

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Nixlimited 07-12-2014 03:53 PM

I just got back from the shop with the new CSF 3-Pass radiator and the FI oil cooler. In typical LA fashion, I had to sit in a lot of traffic on a very warm day. I never saw oil temps go above 195F and the water dot never moved. Unfortunately, unlike Super Werty, my A/C is not working at all. So one problem solved, one more to fill its place.

Super Werty 07-12-2014 06:36 PM

To add to my review I got the Fast Intentions 34R Oil cooler on and now everything is running cool.

We had some slightly cooler weather(87*F) show up so last night I went for a drive. Water temps stay at 182-184* driving around town. Got on it a few times and it jumped up to 195* and then very quickly drops back down to 182-184*

Oil temps never went above 182* Love this set up!

Nixlimited 07-13-2014 12:51 PM

CSF - have you seen any failures in the AC cores? I am trying to figure out what to check first.

Chuck33079 07-13-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2894058)
CSF - have you seen any failures in the AC cores? I am trying to figure out what to check first.


Are you sure they refilled the freon? You have to empty it to install the radiator.

Nixlimited 07-13-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2894095)
Are you sure they refilled the freon? You have to empty it to install the radiator.

Yep. Positive. And they even tested the AC to make sure it worked. But by the time I picked the car up, it seems like it must have lost the charge.

I should add that I tested the compressor/clutch and that appears to be working fine.

Chuck33079 07-13-2014 02:54 PM

Are the lines installed correctly? They kinda have to snap in or they can leak. If you've got a refrigerant leak you should be able to see it. The oil in it will be very visible.

jwick 07-13-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2894143)
Are the lines installed correctly? They kinda have to snap in or they can leak. If you've got a refrigerant leak you should be able to see it. The oil in it will be very visible.

:iagree:

it's real green. when we did mine it held a charge for about an hr and then the quick disconnect fitting popped off and emptied the system. green **** everywhere. pulled it back apart paid extra attention to the fittings and recharged it. held after that. I would think of you had a pin leak or something it would have been noticed when they pulled a vacuum on it.

Nixlimited 07-13-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2894143)
Are the lines installed correctly? They kinda have to snap in or they can leak. If you've got a refrigerant leak you should be able to see it. The oil in it will be very visible.

I haven't seen any green leaks anywhere. Will go do a closer inspection. Unfortunately, I do not have a UV light to check for the fluorescence of the refrigerant.

Super Werty 07-13-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2894183)
I haven't seen any green leaks anywhere. Will go do a closer inspection. Unfortunately, I do not have a UV light to check for the fluorescence of the refrigerant.

I bet you its leaking at the o-ring on top of the reservoir tank for the condenser.

Bill 07-13-2014 04:01 PM

Did you guys use the included AC lines or just reuse the original? I initially planned to use the CSF lines, but found them to be about 1 inch too long where they connect to the quick disconnect fitting and did not fit well at all. I just switched back to the OEM lines and they fit perfectly. Given these issues, I'll be doing a vacuum check before having the AC recharged.

jwick 07-13-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill (Post 2894222)
Did you guys use the included AC lines or just reuse the original? I initially planned to use the CSF lines, but found them to be about 1 inch too long where they connect to the quick disconnect fitting and did not fit well at all. I just switched back to the OEM lines and they fit perfectly. Given these issues, I'll be doing a vacuum check before having the AC recharged.

I could get the CAR ones to work either. the rotation was off and I couldn't get the screw started on the coil side. went back to oem and everything worked fine

Super Werty 07-13-2014 07:40 PM

I used oem lines. I couldn't figure out how to remove them so I made them work with gentle bending.

Bill 07-15-2014 12:33 AM

So I pulled 30mmHg of vacuum from the AC system, but that only lasted 15 minutes. Checked lines - looked ok. Thanks to Super Werty for pointing me to the O-ring on the AC reservoir/dryer. When I installed the low pressure sensor, I left the OEM O-ring in place.
When I checked it, it was deformed (the sensor was not overtightened). I replaced the OEM O-ring with the green O-ring supplied by CSF (it was on the bolt originally installed on the reservoir/dryer). The low pressure sensor tightened perfectly and without deformation of the O-ring. My AC system is now holding 30mmHg of vacuum for the last several hours. The system will be recharged within the next few days, hopefully without any leaks.

Nixlimited 07-15-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill (Post 2895939)
So I pulled 30mmHg of vacuum from the AC system, but that only lasted 15 minutes. Checked lines - looked ok. Thanks to Super Werty for pointing me to the O-ring on the AC reservoir/dryer. When I installed the low pressure sensor, I left the OEM O-ring in place.
When I checked it, it was deformed (the sensor was not overtightened). I replaced the OEM O-ring with the green O-ring supplied by CSF (it was on the bolt originally installed on the reservoir/dryer). The low pressure sensor tightened perfectly and without deformation of the O-ring. My AC system is now holding 30mmHg of vacuum for the last several hours. The system will be recharged within the next few days, hopefully without any leaks.

Can CSF chime in with the o-ring specs in case I need to replace mine?

Nixlimited 07-24-2014 08:42 PM

So I have now confirmed that the issues with my system are the connections to the condenser. Apparently both connections are leaking. Looks like I have the same issue as someone else had. Not sure if I am using the OEM lines or the CSF lines.

hc_416 07-25-2014 11:41 AM

Hey guys I just got my Triple pass installed yesterday. It took them two days because they blew out the ac line. The also had trouble getting the new fittings on. They said that the lines were really hard to get on. All in all its on and my car run's a lot cooler. very happy with it. The ac is also great too. LIke a ice box brr

Arrvaxx 07-25-2014 11:53 AM

Since this thread is in the Forced Induction section I am going to try and hijack it.

I've been told that putting a wider radiator in to a car with an intercooler and large oil cooler is not a good thing, that someone here did that and had a lot of issues. Something about there not being enough room between the rows of things that need cooling for the air to flow correctly. Anyone have any experience with that?

Also, CSF, you never called me. Did you find someone for SEMA?

theDreamer 07-25-2014 01:08 PM

Arrvaxx, have not heard that, maybe under high heat/load you could cause temps to rise quickly as airflow is restricted.
The goal is to increase capacity & cooling because you have an intercooler, and possibly other coolers, prior to the radiator so the radiator needs to be more efficient and larger.

Arrvaxx 07-25-2014 03:12 PM

I'd really like to get CSF to sponsor a test with my car and see if the triple pass overcomes any air restriction issues. HINT!

1slow370 07-25-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrvaxx (Post 2908372)
I'd really like to get CSF to sponsor a test with my car and see if the triple pass overcomes any air restriction issues. HINT!

Translation= GIVE ME FREE PARTS!

Arrvaxx 07-25-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2908414)
Translation= GIVE ME FREE PARTS!

:) ...and then put me in SEMA! I'll have the Varis kit by then you rats!

Nixlimited 07-29-2014 03:22 PM

While the new CSF radiator seems to be doing a great job, the CSF condenser has proven problematic for several of us early adopters. Hopefully our issues will lead people to really test the AC connections when installing. In my car, the system held vacuum overnight just fine and then held pressure overnight fine. However, after running for approximately a week, all of the refrigerant leaked out via the condenser connections. In my car the OEM AC lines were used because the CSF lines do not fit well.

Edit: CSF called me today and is working with me to get this problem solved. I will update this thread with what we figure out.

Big thanks to Seb@SZ for continuing to help me troubleshoot this issue and offering to go above and beyond to get it fixed.

G37Sam 07-29-2014 04:42 PM

Major hats off to you early adopters that's for sure :tiphat:

I've been eyeing this kit for sometime and following this thread religiously.

chops 07-29-2014 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Werty (Post 2884266)
I can report to you now that the CSF Triple pass is showing some amazing gains on my N/A Z. Temps were in the 225-230* range just driving around town, never going above 5K rpm. Now with the triple pass radiator temps stay around 180-195*. This is in 105* Arizona ambient temps. Also when coasting down a hill or any kind of letting off the gas the temps drops very quickly. As an added bonus the A/C is ridiculously cold now...45* to be exact lol

by the way, this further proves the OEM 12+ oil cooler is completely useless. Oil temps have not dropped at all. You would think a 30+*F reduction in coolant temp would affect it but nope. FI oil cooler goes on Monday!

yikes. here in cali, its been 90-100 for the better part of july. ive never seen my coolant temps go over 220, even in bumper-bumper traffic with the original CSF. although, i do have uprev fan mods. my fan comes on much sooner, and blows much harder. at the track ive never seen over 220 either. then again, im slow compared to other people :tiphat:

also, ive never had problems with the AC leaking and im on my 2nd CSF rad. only problems ive had were coolant leaks and drain plug/bleeder plug problems.

Super Werty 07-29-2014 07:56 PM

5 weeks since I installed it, no leaks:tup:

CSF Inc. 07-29-2014 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2912600)
While the new CSF radiator seems to be doing a great job, the CSF condenser has proven problematic for several of us early adopters. Hopefully our issues will lead people to really test the AC connections when installing. In my car, the system held vacuum overnight just fine and then held pressure overnight fine. However, after running for approximately a week, all of the refrigerant leaked out via the condenser connections. In my car the OEM AC lines were used because the CSF lines do not fit well.

Accordingly, until CSF can address whatever it is that's causing AC leaks with the condenser, and why their lines do not fit well, I am not sure I would recommend anyone getting this kit. I have reached out to CSF via email with no response, and in this thread about the only thing CSF has done is "like" positive reviews and fail to respond to technical questions.

Big thanks to Seb@SZ for continuing to help me troubleshoot this issue and offering to go above and beyond to get it fixed.


I'm sorry if you emailed me or someone else, and did not get a response. Please shoot me an email: ravidolwani@csfradiators.com
- I'll see what I can do for you. Please add your phone #, and I'll call you directly to try and resolve any issues that you have.
- We have had only one potential case of condenser failure since we came out with the unit, and it was an iffy one from overseas.

Sorry to everyone for not getting back to questions as much as I would like
- I don't have a bunch of kids/interns working for me answering all the different fourms and postings. It's been crazy busy this summer with lots of new development, the brand getting out there more, travel, and trying to make deals on the OEM/private label side + now getting ready for SEMA.

I appreciate all the feedback as I will try and improve the product.
- I'll also look to try and work with some dealers to promote a discount for early adopters who have had problems.

Nixlimited 07-30-2014 02:26 PM

Thanks for the call today, Ravi. Look forward to getting this problem sorted out.


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