GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development

B1nks

I really wanna check those links out but I've been banned from my350.com for "harassment" to a mod by telling him "my bad, don't hurt me with your e-jiu jitsu". What a bunch of ******* tards. Keep this debate up though ! I know who I like better and it isn't Stillen not based off of personal experience but off of other peoples in the past. I do like their g3 intakes though.

stormcrow

As theDreamer mentioned, the trade down was due to the desire to build a car as a project. But, as far as expense goes, building/modifying the GT-R wasn't really an issue...the issue lay in the fact that most vendors were charging astronomical amounts for aftermarket parts that were either slightly superior to OEM or, even at times, inferior. GT-R owners term it the "GT-R tax." Couple that with the fact that the GT-R is extremely bleeding edge as far as technology goes and typical power adders do not work, it will be a while before tuners and developers can catch up and provide a solid foundation on which to build the platform. I didn't feel like being a pioneer or guinea pig.


How dare you harass the superior my350z.com mods?! Some of those boys are rather touchy. You should be able to read the links without having a membership or the ability to log in, though.

1slow370

as for rcz being a stillen fanboy.... Maybe you don't know this stormcrow but stillen has the most underdriven pulley, the second best gains in a catback exhaust, the only headers on the market for our cars, the cheapest oil cooler kit that cools oil, and THE BEST cold air intake for our cars. THis has all been proven multiple times by multiple people. Basically he is one of the few pwople on here that actually has a clue about what they are doing and try not to start fights in GTM's thread but keep in mind the new stillen kit is VERY different than the old one which had an undersized blower.

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stormcrow

We should start a new thread to debate Stillen products versus the world. This is not the place. I can tell you, though, that there is nothing new about the Stillen SC kit for the 370Z except for the fact that they ditched the Eaton roots blowers and went Vortech centrifugal.

The design, layout, and routing of multiple unnecessary water lines is still the same. The moving of key wiring harnesses and parts is still the same. The gawdy and poorly placed coolant resevoir for pre-cooler is still the same. The necessity of wiring and relays for the ECM and pre-cooler coolant pump is still the same. It's a mess. Honestly, every Stillen kit I have seen looks like it was R&D'ed in someone's backyard.

I have zero against Stillen. I have had plenty of their products. From camber/toe arms to front bumpers to sway bars to full bolt on supercharger kits. Some had issues, others did not.

But, let me point out that we are talking about the supercharger kit. None of their other products. The Stillen products that you mentioned above are more for N/A cars than F/I cars...especially underdrive pulleys and headers. Again, Stillen makes some fine products. But, given the choice of the GTM SC kit or the Stillen SC kit, those of us with experience in the F/I arena would choose the GTM kit hands down.

travisjb

to your credit, this is definitely more specific and our posts crossed paths... I agree on a different thread - or just go to the stillen thread and post your thoughts directly there...

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Buddy Revell

Agreed. It would be interesting to read Kyle and Josh's responses on that thread to stormcrow's points about Stillen's previous and current SC kit designs.

1slow370

well, when you use a water to air intercooler you kinda need hoses. the gtm kit is using a rotrex unit that has it's own oiling system that needs a pump, filter, ?reservoir maybe? not sure on this one, and a crapload of lines. you also need to install new front side accessory brackets, which may require wire/hose extensions. There is also the difference in tuning stillen is most likely using a cobb accessport this time instead of the piggyback they normally use and they have mentioned that they may be divorcing the iat duties from the air mass sensor and relocating them to an individual sensor in the manifold while gtm is going with a blow through setup which means they won't be able to detect pressure in the manifold from the stock 1bar map sensor and the sensors being blow through won't be able to read the extra airflow so there is going to be some serious hacking of the tune on their part to get it to run. both kits are going to have to use recirculation valves as without a pressure sensor the car would run excessively rich on off throttle if vented to atmosphere. I suggest you stop being a tool saying you know more about F/I than the rest of the world and actually read both threads like most of us have.

Edit: why don't we all go back to the boring state of sitting in the corner and waiting for both companies to actually release their kits before making decisions and being a bunch of racists prejudicing the kits based on thier manufactures. Oh and most of us think the old m62 stillen kits were retardly underpowered

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