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nixxer 02-27-2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 419925)
I Know this is not a 370z :D You guys will be getting a bigger update before the weekend is over .the car did 408 RWHP 315 RWTQ


Sam

Is that stock exhaust too? A bit hard for me to tell. Also, whats that strange fluttering noise the SC makes around 0:55 to 1:05? Just a harmonics thing with the mic or something else...?

kevin1985912 02-27-2010 01:23 AM

is the engine suppose to move that much?

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin1985912 (Post 419957)
is the engine suppose to move that much?

very normal .

Sam

1slow370 02-27-2010 01:58 AM

oh yeah that's nothing for engine movement. fwd cars move like crazy compared to that. looks like it's coming together, gonna be interesting to see these kits come to fruition. my question is wtf is the sound at 58 seconds sounds like a fluid pump screaming or belt slip.

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hngonzalez (Post 419954)
Is that stock exhaust too? A bit hard for me to tell. Also, whats that strange fluttering noise the SC makes around 0:55 to 1:05? Just a harmonics thing with the mic or something else...?

Yes we are still testing With stock exhaust and cats, we will be running more boost on the stock exhaust then we will switch the exhaust out and retest again. as for the noise it is the bypass valve flutter.

Sam

G37sHKS 02-27-2010 02:07 AM

woowww.. Sam.. is 8 psi is safe for daily drive car??

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 419973)
woowww.. Sam.. is 8 psi is safe for daily drive car??

For the amount of power/torque we are making @ 8 psi and the timing tables we're running, i would feel comfortable running more boost .

Sam

Buddy Revell 02-27-2010 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 419975)
For the amount of power/torque we are making @ 8 psi and the timing tables we're running, i would feel comfortable running more boost .

Sam

Is 8 psi gonna be what you guys are running for the CARB-legal version or is that already the race/higher boost version? Also, which trim Rotrex are you running with the G?

G37sHKS 02-27-2010 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 420001)
Is 8 psi gonna be what you guys are running for the CARB-legal version or is that already the race/higher boost version? Also, which trim Rotrex are your running with the G?

Good questions.. I would like to know too if this 8psi is for legal or for race boost version

Z eliminator 02-27-2010 08:21 AM

Hi Sam was that the SC oil cooler mounted on top of bumper crash bar?
Did you have the air filters hooked up to the intake on the SC?

Zguy 02-27-2010 11:02 AM

that sounded good.... The fluttering sounded like a bypass valve of some sort.... I dunno though....

LiquidZ 02-27-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 420069)
Hi Sam was that the SC oil cooler mounted on top of bumper crash bar?
Did you have the air filters hooked up to the intake on the SC?

The cooler was for the Rotrex traction fluid.

nixxer 02-27-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 419972)
Yes we are still testing With stock exhaust and cats, we will be running more boost on the stock exhaust then we will switch the exhaust out and retest again. as for the noise it is the bypass valve flutter.

Sam

Anyway to eliminate that flutter? Not much of a fan. I had the same noise on my SC mustang whenever i let off the throttle. Or is the flutter intrinsic to centri SC's with a recirc set up :confused:

One_Quick_Z 02-27-2010 01:09 PM

Cant wait for all of the info!!!!



DAN

Buddy Revell 02-27-2010 01:25 PM

The peak numbers look good. I wonder what the hp and torque curves look like, especially in the midrange rpms?

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 420001)
Is 8 psi gonna be what you guys are running for the CARB-legal version or is that already the race/higher boost version? Also, which trim Rotrex are you running with the G?

Our goal is to reached the 500 BHP mark which translate to 425 RWHP with our stage 1 supercharger. Currently we are testing our custom housing on the supercharger and we will continue to play with the pulleys and housings until we reach our goal which we should be there today .

As for the carb kit psi and power outcome it is premature to say right now.

Sam

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 420069)
Hi Sam was that the SC oil cooler mounted on top of bumper crash bar?
Did you have the air filters hooked up to the intake on the SC?

Yes it is the SC oil cooler right behind the grill to maximize the air flow to it, and there is no air filter right now .

Sam

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hngonzalez (Post 420400)
Anyway to eliminate that flutter? Not much of a fan. I had the same noise on my SC mustang whenever i let off the throttle. Or is the flutter intrinsic to centri SC's with a recirc set up :confused:

Withe the air filter in place and the bypass valve hook up in recirc set up, you wont here the flutter noise.

Sam

LiquidZ 02-27-2010 01:41 PM

Sam, it sounds like you guys are playing with the compressor housing. Did I read that correctly?

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 420456)
Sam, it sounds like you guys are playing with the compressor housing. Did I read that correctly?

Yes you did .

Sam

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 420433)
The peak numbers look good. I wonder what the hp and torque curves look like, especially in the midrange rpms?

Here we go, you see how easy it is to get info out of us :D


Sam



LiquidZ 02-27-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 420458)
Yes you did .

Sam

That's really cool. I haven't heard of that being done on a supercharger kit, but maybe its one of the perks of using the Rotrex supercharger. Either way, pretty neat indeed!

JB-370z 02-27-2010 01:48 PM

Maybe its just the video but it seems like you can hear the charger much more than you hear the turbos on the twin system. Is this true Sam or is it the video? You would think a twin turbo system would be much more audiable. Looks like you should be able to hit the numbers you want. When you add in exhaust/hfc etc the power will get a little better.
Would low compression pistons help on a application like this????

Buddy Revell 02-27-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 420460)
Here we go, you see how easy it is to get info out us :D


Sam



I will rescan a better image shortly

Haha, thanks, Sam!:tup: The same horsepower at 4500 rpms that a stock G has at 7000+ rpms. Now that's what I'm talking about. Real world power. Nice.

G37Sam 02-27-2010 01:53 PM

Love that flat torque curve! VVEL keeping up very well so far

shumby 02-27-2010 02:14 PM

Sam I PM'd you my contact info looking forward to hearing back from you soon.

Togo 02-27-2010 02:15 PM

wow that TQ cure, or lack there of, is niceeee!

G37Sam 02-27-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 420484)
Sam I PM'd you my contact info looking forward to hearing back from you soon.

I didn't get anything

shumby 02-27-2010 02:28 PM

damn it Sam why your name got to be the same as sam@gtm. i see the latest poster and just glance and see SAM. I think it is Sam and GTM but no it is just you and you trying to get SC for you camel

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 420484)
Sam I PM'd you my contact info looking forward to hearing back from you soon.

Got it, you will see the proposal shortly .

Sam

shumby 02-27-2010 02:32 PM

Thanks Sam. Oh and f you Camel Sam. lol

G37Sam 02-27-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 420499)
damn it Sam why your name got to be the same as sam@gtm. i see the latest poster and just glance and see SAM. I think it is Sam and GTM but no it is just you and you trying to get SC for you camel

You need to stop refreshing the page 20 times a second bro haha

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 420468)
Maybe its just the video but it seems like you can hear the charger much more than you hear the turbos on the twin system. Is this true Sam or is it the video? You would think a twin turbo system would be much more audiable. Looks like you should be able to hit the numbers you want. When you add in exhaust/hfc etc the power will get a little better.
Would low compression pistons help on a application like this????

Just remember there is no air filter on the car right now, so it won't be as loud when the air filters and the bumper are in place. lowering the compression will take away more then helping in a SC application.

Sam

G37Sam 02-27-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 420512)
Just remember there is no air filter on the car right now, so it won't be as loud when the air filters and the bumper are in place. lowering the compression will take away more then helping in a SC application.

Sam

Not even with the stage 3 Sam?

If I remember correctly, you had to use 100oct fuel to run 12psi on the Stage II TT kit on Christian's car? So maybe slightly lower compression might help with staying on pump gas?

Z eliminator 02-27-2010 02:46 PM

Looking real good Sam.
Coming to Canada soon the first GTM SC
Can not wait to see it at 10 psig.

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 420518)
Not even with the stage 3 Sam?

If I remember correctly, you had to use 100oct fuel to run 12psi on the Stage II TT kit on Christian's car? So maybe slightly lower compression might help with staying on pump gas?

In a turbo application it is really easy to make up for the lower compression by simply adding boost. on the other hand in a SC application you are going to be limited by how fast you can spin the SC to make up for the lower compression .

Sam

SAM@GTM 02-27-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 420520)
Looking real good Sam.
Coming to Canada soon the first GTM SC
Can not wait to see it at 10 psig.
420 rwhp is a good #.

I guess i wont be giving you your money back, It is working as promised ;)

you crazy MO FO

Sam

LiquidZ 02-27-2010 02:53 PM

Woot. Over 400! Good job GTM!

NYBladeZ 02-27-2010 03:30 PM

can we get another 2psi and get it up to 10psi?

G37Sam 02-27-2010 03:43 PM

10 psi on stock compression and pump gas would be on the limit of calling for trouble I believe


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