VSR Engine Build

blackonorange · 03-06-2014, 02:01 AM

That's a disgusting price

Mr&Mrs · 03-06-2014, 06:49 AM

At this price I may say F the C7 for a couple more years now I'm doing a 180 again. Not to mention being local. Sigh decisions!

AdobePhil · 03-06-2014, 07:29 AM

Son of a bitch. I wish I knew about this before I paid Nissan 11 grand for an entirely new stock motor. Oh well. I'm sure I'll be happy with the turbo when I stop by later today and see her on the Dyno.

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Mr&Mrs · 03-06-2014, 07:40 AM

Wow I would never put a stock block back in a car. You can almost always go built for the same price or less.

ZKraken22 · 03-06-2014, 07:43 AM

Any type of warranty on the shortblock?

SRperformance · 03-06-2014, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKraken22

Any type of warranty on the shortblock?

We cover our work, we balance and blueprint the engine. Chances of failure is very slim.

ZKraken22 · 03-08-2014, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRperformance

We cover our work, we balance and blueprint the engine. Chances of failure is very slim.

And what kinda power would the short block hold?

SRperformance · 03-11-2014, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKraken22

And what kinda power would the short block hold?

As much as the stock sleeves will hold. I would say safe on those rods 700hp

AdobePhil · 03-06-2014, 07:44 AM

I learned my lesson. I was in panic mode. I blew it 4 days before I moved from Utah back down here. I tried to get it covered under warranty by reverting everything to stock but Nissan apparently has a little black box and denied me due to my AFR. By the time the Decision was made it was already 2 weeks without my car and Uhaul damaged it in addition during the move. So I just wanted to get it fixed because I was tired of driving a rental.

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COSMO · 03-12-2014, 01:03 AM

Actually those k1 connecting rods are rated up to 900hp..

elperuano · 05-23-2014, 09:35 PM

Good question!
Not sure which is the best route to go on built block SC but I can tell you with a built block and Stillen SC ur not gonna make even 500hp.

You should consult ur installer or tuner as that kit will not come close to putting the amount of stress required to pop a motor. Something most likely went wrong during install or tune.

U could build ur block and I believe a fellow member did the same going 10:1. He ended up selling the Stillen kit and now has a single turbo kit making nice numbers.

Z&I · 05-23-2014, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano

Good question!
Not sure which is the best route to go on built block SC but I can tell you with a built block and Stillen SC ur not gonna make even 500hp.

You should consult ur installer or tuner as that kit will not come close to putting the amount of stress required to pop a motor. Something most likely went wrong during install or tune.

U could build ur block and I believe a fellow member did the same going 10:1. He ended up selling the Stillen kit and now has a single turbo kit making nice numbers.

Thanks for the quick reply !!! Mucho Appreciado

It' definitely not a Stillen any more - just looks like one.
Upgraded everything imagineable.

There have been a lot more options available since I put the Stillen in a long time ago.
I do have a lot invested in the build and at the risk of throwing good money after bad ... I don't want to start all over again ... time and money and down time again.
It has been about 7 months in the build so far (I'm all patience'd out) and am at the point that I will be happy to get in to the 11's (I'm in the low 12's now)

Point me in the right direction utilizing what I already have ... Tired of waiting and just want to drive again.

But :-) send me the link to that Single Turbo just in case !!!

1slow370 · 05-23-2014, 09:38 PM

Yep may as well go 10:1 but if only 600 is your goal some standard forged 11:1 slugs may be your best bet. Think stock but stronger.

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Z&I · 05-23-2014, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

Yep may as well go 10:1 but if only 600 is your goal some standard forged 11:1 slugs may be your best bet. Think stock but stronger.

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Thanks !
At this time 600 whp for me is practical ...

The Z's just don't seem to hook up as good as they should...
All that extra HP sometimes seems to go to waste at the track.

Open for more input !!!

1slow370 · 05-23-2014, 11:19 PM

ok if you are sure on sticking with the stillen then i would go with 11:1 so you won't lose any power since getting more air out of that charger is going to be hard. If you call voretch and do a core exchange on a V7 it will be a toss up between the 10:1 and 11:1 pistons. you lose horsepower every time you go down in compression ratio, but you lower cylinder pressure, so unless you can boost the engine more to make the power back(and then some) sticking with stronger pistons and the factory ratio is the way to go. This is especially important when dealing with an undersized blower because it can only push so much air. with the v7 you would be able to make up for going down to 10:1. I believe the v7 also has the larger higher speed bearings in it so it can be spun much faster, but is externally oiled so you would either need a pump and reservoir setup for it or tie it in to the engines oil circuit. the v7's compressor cover is a bit larger as well so no guaranty that it will fit without a little work. once you get to that size tho you are going to need additional cooling by the way of meth or redoing the intercooler piping. also if you havent relocated the MAF sensors already you should do that. the inlet pipe on the stillen kit is also very restrictive with the offset coupler going to a single 2.5" pipe(

stillen that is HALF of what the car had stock to breath through)

so to sum it up
if stillen v3: 11:1
if stillen v7 +upgrades: 10:1

or just go 10:1 sell your kit go turbo and you will have 600hp.

Also if you stick with it and have the piping re done the stillen intake manifold is garbage and should be used as boat anchor like it was designed, if you can use the factory manifold and an air to air inter cooler I guarantee you will gain power

03-06-2014, 06:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31942	At this price I may say F the C7 for a couple more years now I'm doing a 180 again. Not to mention being local. Sigh decisions! OMGWTFBBQ, GaleForce, jlo370z and 1 others like this. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

03-06-2014, 07:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
AdobePhil Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Palm Harbor FL Posts: 211 Drives: 2010 370z Sport Trim Rep Power: 16	Son of a bitch. I wish I knew about this before I paid Nissan 11 grand for an entirely new stock motor. Oh well. I'm sure I'll be happy with the turbo when I stop by later today and see her on the Dyno. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk __________________ 2010 370z Sport Trim / Anodized Racing Pedals / Injen CAI / Invidia Exhaust / Kinetix HFCs/ AEM 320ml Fuel Pump / Upgraded fuel lines and rails / Deutchwerks 850cc Fuel Injectors / Zex Nitrous / Uprev Tuned / /330whp N/A/452whp Nitrous

03-06-2014, 07:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31942	Wow I would never put a stock block back in a car. You can almost always go built for the same price or less. AdobePhil and elperuano like this. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

03-06-2014, 07:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
ZKraken22 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,115 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 17	Any type of warranty on the shortblock? __________________ Litespeed Racing Titanium Cold Air intake// GT Haus Axle// GarageLine combo// Nismo sway bars// Nismo Spoiler // Berk TP's

03-06-2014, 07:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
AdobePhil Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Palm Harbor FL Posts: 211 Drives: 2010 370z Sport Trim Rep Power: 16	I learned my lesson. I was in panic mode. I blew it 4 days before I moved from Utah back down here. I tried to get it covered under warranty by reverting everything to stock but Nissan apparently has a little black box and denied me due to my AFR. By the time the Decision was made it was already 2 weeks without my car and Uhaul damaged it in addition during the move. So I just wanted to get it fixed because I was tired of driving a rental. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk __________________ 2010 370z Sport Trim / Anodized Racing Pedals / Injen CAI / Invidia Exhaust / Kinetix HFCs/ AEM 320ml Fuel Pump / Upgraded fuel lines and rails / Deutchwerks 850cc Fuel Injectors / Zex Nitrous / Uprev Tuned / /330whp N/A/452whp Nitrous

03-06-2014, 02:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
blackonorange A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,078 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 17	That's a disgusting price

03-12-2014, 01:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
COSMO A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 1,816 Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT Rep Power: 21	Actually those k1 connecting rods are rated up to 900hp.. Last edited by COSMO; 03-12-2014 at 01:08 AM.

05-23-2014, 09:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 30	Good question! Not sure which is the best route to go on built block SC but I can tell you with a built block and Stillen SC ur not gonna make even 500hp. You should consult ur installer or tuner as that kit will not come close to putting the amount of stress required to pop a motor. Something most likely went wrong during install or tune. U could build ur block and I believe a fellow member did the same going 10:1. He ended up selling the Stillen kit and now has a single turbo kit making nice numbers.

05-23-2014, 09:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	Yep may as well go 10:1 but if only 600 is your goal some standard forged 11:1 slugs may be your best bet. Think stock but stronger. Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

05-23-2014, 11:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	ok if you are sure on sticking with the stillen then i would go with 11:1 so you won't lose any power since getting more air out of that charger is going to be hard. If you call voretch and do a core exchange on a V7 it will be a toss up between the 10:1 and 11:1 pistons. you lose horsepower every time you go down in compression ratio, but you lower cylinder pressure, so unless you can boost the engine more to make the power back(and then some) sticking with stronger pistons and the factory ratio is the way to go. This is especially important when dealing with an undersized blower because it can only push so much air. with the v7 you would be able to make up for going down to 10:1. I believe the v7 also has the larger higher speed bearings in it so it can be spun much faster, but is externally oiled so you would either need a pump and reservoir setup for it or tie it in to the engines oil circuit. the v7's compressor cover is a bit larger as well so no guaranty that it will fit without a little work. once you get to that size tho you are going to need additional cooling by the way of meth or redoing the intercooler piping. also if you havent relocated the MAF sensors already you should do that. the inlet pipe on the stillen kit is also very restrictive with the offset coupler going to a single 2.5" pipe( stillen that is HALF of what the car had stock to breath through) so to sum it up if stillen v3: 11:1 if stillen v7 +upgrades: 10:1 or just go 10:1 sell your kit go turbo and you will have 600hp. Also if you stick with it and have the piping re done the stillen intake manifold is garbage and should be used as boat anchor like it was designed, if you can use the factory manifold and an air to air inter cooler I guarantee you will gain power esfourteen, Mr&Mrs, elperuano and 2 others like this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 05-24-2014 at 12:03 AM.

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