I'm hoping the BP kit will fit the g37!

We will know by the end of the weekend!

Def keep watching. IMHO it will soon be heavily favored to FI. :tiphat:



Biased opinion to follow...:tiphat: Ummm...FI :D




I will leave it for those who already have their installs done to comment further rather than my biased opinion pre FI install. Btw FI will soon have the G37 kit available. Will be worth the wait. :tup: Also check the Official FI "Twin Turbo Kit" is here thread for info on the kit for Z's and G37's. Good luck whichever way you go.

why did i start reading this thread just when I thought I had officially decided to stay NA. Now my resolve is wavering a bit and my wallet is a bit scared...

That's the little boost monkey that sits on your shoulder. Most of the time he's quiet and just sits there. Every once in awhile he jumps down and clicks the mouse guiding you to locations he knows you really want to be in...Don't fight the monkey

Boost is good:yum:

I see he visits you too...Mine yelled 'CALL SASHA', you must have been visited by his cousin

You got the Canadian monkey. :rofl2: He's only .91 the size, but brings better beer.

just curious how guys with more modest power levels (around or <500whp) are doing in terms of traction. Would I need new rubber (running 245/285 re-11s) at about 450whp?

I'lll let Chuck field this one

First is useless. You'll be able to give it 1/2-2/3 throttle in second, but it may still break loose at peak torque. You can go WOT in third. That's on 245/285s.

And I love how "at or around 500whp" has now become "modest" power. Thanks, Tony. :mad:


:rofl2:

I'm looking to have just above 500 rwhp(500-520) and around 10psi and a DD. Is this the kit for me?

I currently run Husky 94 AKI Octane

You can make 600hp at 10psi with this kit if you want! :)

Mr. Glide,

Cool videos man :tup: but, Me thinks you may need a tire sponsor soon:eek:

Lol just make sure u put on e85 in parenthesis. Poor guy gonna think he can make 600 on pump 93.

No want that much HP unless I rebuild. Which is possible in the future, definitely not now.

And I live in Canada, where we still kill dinosaurs for fuel.

Hot weather update!

86 degrees today, took the car for about 100 miles....NOT A SINGLE PROBLEM.

Hot starts? Not an issue!

Water Temp? Nice and cool!

Oil temp? Never above 200!

Boost? still hitting 12+psi with little throttle, peak boost was 12.5 with little to no lag, just as it was the day I drove it home on my high boost curve!

My IATs were about 10-14 degrees above ambient.

The car did not really feel slower at all, it felt just as fast, especially with the drag radials responding incredibly to the hot roads. I drove from San Jose, to Milbrae and back on the 280...man it felt good. I got my money's worth today. This thing is insane! There is no stopping it!

great to hear, now when will this be avail for the G37!! :)

Definitely

I guess it depends on turbo selection and supporting parts

I don't see why that isn't possible. He said HP, not WHP. And E85 isn't as widespread as most people think.

Huh? We don't use BHP here we only use WHP. And exactly why i think it's a good idea for the e85 guys to make note of that otherwise everyone's gonna think they can make 600hp on pump 93 on a stock block safely. I Know e85 makes magic kinda numbers

e85 is great and all. But a great kit makes a world of a difference...give credit where it's due:tiphat:

I dont think anyone imagined that gt2860s would be capable of an easy 700+hp(seriously) with just e85 and a build block, even with a punitive 2.5" exhaust.

ANyhow, back to my quest for 1000s....

I've always said the FI kit is by far the best twin turbo option out. Plenty of credit has been given. Just helping a potential customer for their kit to not be let down when they have no e85 option close to them and can only use pump 93 or 91.

Good luck on 1k hp!

Amen brotha....

One thing about Tony, he won't blow smoke up your ***. He will give you an honest estimation on price and power.

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GT2860's are rated to a max 360hp aren't they? Pushing 700hp with one per cylinder bank is definitely possible but they are getting pretty maxed out at that point.

Actually that max 360hp would be bhp wouldn't it? Considering that each one only has 1.85 litres of displacement driving it just goes to show how efficient the FI kit is!!

There is how much power most the tuning industry says a specific turbo is capable of producing... and there is how much HP a turbo is capable of making with 11:1 compression, with VQ cylinder heads, and further increases in dynamic compression from using E85.

Whatever performance the turbos are "known" for making... we are going to blow away.

I checked and the 360hp max is listed on the Garrett website. Where they come up with there numbers, who knows.

Has anyone ever seen higher numbers than 650-700hp from twin GT28rs's? Everything that I have ever read says that 500-600 is what most people are happy with but then that is usually on smaller engines (RB's, 1JZ's & 2JZ's).

What turbo's do the high HP R35 guys run on the VR38's?

Yes, keep in mind that is per turbo so 2x 360HP is 720HP. I'm sure you knew that but throwing that out there just in case someone gets confused. We've done 720 whp on a VG30DETT with the GT2860RS turbos. This however was having to make close to 30 psi of boost. On the VHR engine it won't take anywhere near as much, we've done 630 whp on about 13 psi of boost so the turbo (GT2860RS) on the VHR *should* run out of steam around 18-20 psi. This is all in theory since we haven't taken this turbo this high on these engines (stock). Highest so far on 3071Rs was about 25 psi on a built lower compression engine (tturbo370z) which produced 800whp, however this turbo combo was slightly mismatched as it still used a T04B housing and "tiny" .64 AR turbine housing (T25).

Very good post :tup:

I have not seen any R35 GTR's with a GT2860rs turbo's its just not a good turbo for high boost 18 plus PSI. I have seen them run GTX 2867 and HTA 2868 turbos on those cars.

Hey guys (and girls? :))

Thought I would pop in here with a bit of an update.

I put the kit through a bit of a torture test this weekend at Road Atlanta with Global Time Attack.

Two days of absolutely thrashing the **** out of it. Two sessions were in 90+ degree heat with high humidity.

...And it didn't miss a beat. Ran like a top. I have to admit, beforehand I was concerned with what oil and water temps I would see, but it never broke a sweat. Oil never got over 220ish, and water was never above the middle of the range. As background, I have the Mishi rad and FI 34 row oil cooler.

Anyway long story short: I had a blast. The car absolutely hauled ***, and behaved perfectly. I spent most of the time getting accustomed to all the additional power, trying to find the limits, and building confidence. I definitely need more aero now. Coming down the back stretch at 170ish, the rear is seriously squirrely under braking. I ran with the same RE11's that I've had on the car for some time. They have 20+ heat cycles, so they are definitely past it, but I was still pleasantly pleased with overall traction and balance. Still relatively neutral. Can't say enough good things about the OS giken lsd, although the fluid was totally cooked when I changed it yesterday.

One session was in the wet and that was...interesting? Terrifying? Given you can make it step out rather easily in the dry, it was a handful in the wet. Turn 12 was definitely a "pucker" moment for sure.

I put together a quick clip for you're viewing/listening pleasure. Still waiting on my buddy's to get my some outside-the-car video. We took 2 photo/video guys with us, so should have some good footage.

In the meantime, enjoy!

Wow! Sweet ride n video! Sounds amazing!

Incredible stuff my man!

It is amazing how stout these kits are, everything sounds perfect!

Glad you are enjoying your ride. Very well done!

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Some GREAT Impressions.... :tup::tup::tup::tup:

I second that wow with a WOW!!! Seriously beautiful/fast ride. Look forward to seeing what you can do after you get acclimated to the power. And also the hurt you put on some people at ZDayZ.

My god that was awesome. Near goosebumps. Sounds so amazing. Congrats man!

Wow :eek:

^^^^^^^^^^^^Now this is what I call a Mother Fuc k IN Review :tup:

Car sound great:tup: excellent driving

I agree, great video and great sounding car!

Awesome video man.

Jeeezuuus I bet that **** keeps you focused:tiphat:

So it's been too long, and this will not serve as my full review by any means, but I wanted to chime in with some quick feedback regarding my experience.

Tony @ F.I. and Seb @ Specialty-Z really came together to rescue my car from the GTM debacle. Ever since going to Fast Intention's shop and meeting Dan and Tony, and being an earlier customer of Fast Intentions for my exhaust, I have had the utmost confidence in their system design and integrity as a shop. I would have gone with his kit in the first place had I not have dropped my car off at GTM about a month before they announced. Regardless, Tony never stopped communicating with me during the time my car was away to see how the process was going, whether I needed anything, etc--just one enthusiast to another, no salesmanship.

My car wound up at Specialty Z because they work closely with Fast Intentions and have install experience, plus a great tuner, Seb. During my build time, I never went more than about 24 hours without hearing from either Tony or Seb (or sometimes both) about progress, getting pictures of progress, talking build strategy, etc. More importantly, when I got my car back about two weeks ago, everything was buttoned up and looking factory fresh. No rattles, no "oh about this", etc.

Since getting my car back, both Tony and Seb have stayed in touch, fielded questions, etc. The only reason I haven't written more is that I just haven't had much time to spend with the car yet. I plan to remedy that as soon as possible. Two race schools on the book for this year, and I am going to need to use all that teaching somewhere! Plus early plans to attend ZdayZ next year.

I also want to make a quick shout-out to Galeforce, who makes one hell of an a-pillar. Absolute OEM quality.

I can't wait to put my car through the paces more, and report back on overall experience. Right now I can say that it has lived up to the hype. It starts every time, idles like stock, and pulls like a raped ape when you get on it. I have only been running my 8 PSI setting to get used to the power and the car again, but even at that level, it's intense.

For better or worse, the power delivery feels smoother than I may have expected coming from some of my old cars. That is to say, I don't get that no-power to holy-**** power transition I got with my old STi, but I think that's in part because I am running low boost and in part because the system just works so well with the car. Power comes on very quick and very smoothly. I think that is attributable both to great mechanical system design as well as a great tune by Seb. The difference is, it feels like an OEM fast car, and not an aftermarket fast car. And with all of that said, breaking loose my fairly fresh tires at 60 MPH certainly wakes you up to the immense output of the system. It's outstanding.

Where to start? Maybe with a simple summary, “wow”.

And I don’t mean wow just because of the raw power. Lots of superchargers and turbo kits have power. But what I find astonishing is how effortlessly the Fast Intentions twins bring on that power and how clear it is to me that if Tony and Dan built a system for themselves this would be it; it is not just a bunch of parts. It is a commitment to quality and performance fueled by their honest and true passion.

Presales:

When I first contacted Fast Intentions I was expecting a series of email exchanges. I’m not a turbo expert so was ok with that. I had lots of questions and didn’t want to waste their time educating me. Tony would have none of that. He told me that he would rather talk about what I wanted to accomplish than communicate via email.

I’m glad he did. Before I sent my deposit we probably spent three hours on the phone over the course of two weeks with a few email clarifications along the way. Tony’s main concern was understanding what I wanted to do with my car short term and long term. Was it a daily? Drag? Track? Was I going to build the motor and push in to the 700 and 800 hp range? How did I like it stock (to make sure they didn’t make things I don’t like worse).

I had done some research and thought I knew what ‘parts’ to put together but after talking to him it was clear that I didn’t know a thing. He suggested downsizing several items and eliminating others all together; all along the way educating me.

What I Ordered:

- Twins w/Garrett GR28RSR turbos
- Bosch 650cc injectors
- Upgraded fuel system (ended up being the FAST-500)
- Test pipes with 2.5” non-res catback (100 cell inserts)
- Specialty Z 6 puck and flywheel combo
- Setrab 32 row oil cooler
- Tilton CSC
- HKS Racing M Series spark plugs
- Whiteline rear diff bushings
- Uprev w/three tunes (5 maps)
- Full installation done by F.I. including the eBoost2 boost controller

Why am I including the non-turbo items? Because Fast Intentions understands that turbos don’t exist in a vacume. Our cars do not come stock with forced induction. Some parts are not meant to be pushed to 600 hp. Of course they will sell you a ‘kit’ but at least look at what else they make available because it is made available because you –will- need it.

I placed my order will full confidence that the car would be returned to me and perform –reliably-.

Build Impressions:

It is my belief that people tend to have a very narrow focus of view when making comments like ‘the build quality is excellent’. They seem to look at weld quality and make broad stroke statements based on them. I am not a build quality expert but it is hard to imagine how what I received could have been of any better quality; even down to the seals being o-rings instead of gaskets. Just amazing.

Some people have commented that the Fast Intentions setup is not self-installation friendly. I’m not going to disagree. But the reason it is not friendly for most of us is that it is designed with efficiency and performance in mind over many other things. “Oil filter is in the way and routing around it will decrease efficiency…so move it.” And oh by the way, “Lets use stainless braided lines and milled parts for the relocation.”

Ok, removing my washer fluid reservoir was a surprise! I had a good laugh at that. But really…washer fluid or perfect placement of the intakes? There is still room in the area so I’ve decided to have a custom aluminum reservoir made. But you can just as easily get a small plastic one too. In the end I appreciated that Tony and Dan have their priorities straight!

It’s interesting because ‘efficiency’ turned out to be amazingly stealth. At shows I get a lot of people coming by to check out the engine bay. They are almost universally shocked to see what looks like a stock bay with polished intakes. I’ve had a number of people pull back and bend down to look at the intercooler because they thought my car wasn’t ‘that’ car.

Insanity:

I thought that I was crazy when I swore the turbos began to spool at 2500-2800 rpms with full boost around 4500 but someone else posted their thoughts just a week ago and said the same thing so I’m going to call it confirmed. These things spool fast, come on hard, and don’t ease up all the way to redline. And against Tony’s advice…they’ve seen it in several gears.

I think the way the power comes on is the biggest surprise. I’ve driven several boosted cars before and most of the time you have to use the throttle to keep boost out of turns. That and there is that ‘turbo surprise’ at some ‘magical’ rpm. Not here. In fact the power comes on so quick that I really have to be careful when coming out of turns. It’s like driving a new car and I love every minute.

Bottom line is that if there was one thing missing from the Fast Intentions setup it is new tires. They need to be wide and sticky. It isn’t hard to spin the OEMs in third.

Bottom Line:

The wait is worth it and the value is excellent. There really isn’t any better way I can close the review.

--Arrvaxx

- Arrvaxx’s turbo ‘break in’ procedure. Or, “How I beat the hell out of Tony and Dan’s creation and survived. Or, "How I gave Tony and Dan a head full of gray hair!"