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Originally Posted by 1slow370 They already introduced themselves with the 350z and seeing as they never produced a kit for the HR I'm extremly skeptical. Especially when they had a

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Old 09-18-2009, 12:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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They already introduced themselves with the 350z and seeing as they never produced a kit for the HR I'm extremly skeptical. Especially when they had a kit out for the camaro less than three months after it's release. When it comes to FI on Nissans the market is turbo biased so the sales aren't going to be that great. Especially since this IS a small numbers car. Look at the last camaro small numbers for it were 30,000 a year that already is 3 times the market we present. when you consider it had years of over 100,000 and even 200,000 a year it makes an application for or cars look ludicrous. Vortech is using your car as an RD source to determine it's costs for a theoretical kit to further define it's sales possibilities. they did the same thing with the HR to a fruitless end. In order for them to produce a kit there would have to be significantly higher demand than there is now. Would it be nice, yes as it adds competition to the market and drives prices down. Is it viable for larger profits simple answer is no. Especially when you consider that all the complexities in the new 370z are going to make the kit harder and more expensive to produce yet the sale point will remain around the price of other vortech kits meaning they will see less return per unit sold than that of kits for other vehicles.

I'll be optimistic for once and say that the vortech unit may be a viable solution as they use primitive pressure regulators instead of ecu tuning to adjust fuel so it may circumvent the complicated ecu that seems to be kicking the tuning companies @**es. Although I can't say I've seen to many 350z vortech cars that haven't thrown out the stuff vortech uses and gotten some other kind of fuel and timing control.
What is a Vortech kit.. It is fabrication of custom mounting plates and brackets, a bunch of off the shelf parts, and a few car specific pieces like something to flash the ECU or piggyback on to it. A company this big can probably fab everything themselves and maybe even manufacture the parts. If the cost to entry was so very high, how would a much smaller company like GTM ever produce a custom kit?

Also, what does the Camaro kit have to do with a 370z kit? They already built the kit, why would they not move on to another new car if there is a profit to be made?

As to the 350z kit, I own it and still run the split second box. If you know what you are doing when tuning with it, it is a great tool for boost levels a stock block can handle.

My assessment - you are talking way above your pay grade. What is your profession?
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Yes, this is exactly what was told to me, they already have self contained kits, it really is just a matter of getting the brackets to fit and the belt to route properly, as well as making an air charger with 2 outlets. I also mentioned to the engineers to leave room to mount an oil cooler, because it will be needed.
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Yes, this is exactly what was told to me, they already have self contained kits, it really is just a matter of getting the brackets to fit and the belt to route properly, as well as making an air charger with 2 outlets. I also mentioned to the engineers to leave room to mount an oil cooler, because it will be needed.
Looking forward to updates when you get your car back. A dyno curve would be great too.

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Over one week at Vortech, no news yet. I'll shoot them an email today. :-)
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Looking forward to good news!

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Yeah, me too Sent an email to them today, was kind of late, so hopefully will hear something tomorrow.
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