09-18-2009, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Minicobra1
Well, I'm glad to see that your finally making a comment about superchargers and not going off topic talking about where you want to live and/or state bashing. Hey, no hard feelings, but my car is under the knife over at Vortech. I'm sure a lot of other forum members want to see this kit come to production, especially me. So a bit of positive encouragement would be great. 
You make a valid point regarding the number of units they may be able to sell, I'm sure this will weigh heavy on their decision to go to production. You left out a few important things though, these cars are sold all over the world, not just the U.S.A. Many more then 10K units sold. Vortech is a global company, they sell and distribute their product in many other countries. Also, it's not always about profit at first, I worked as a product manager for a large cycle company, and we would produce products that we knew wouldn't move a lot of units, but it got us recognition, increased our brand status and moved us into other potential future markets. Look at some of the auto makers that are producing first year electric or hybrid vehicles, most lost money on every car sold for the first year or two, but if they didn't put it out there, they would never stand to make a profit in the future.
If Vortech decides to wait 3 or 4 years to produce this product, then for sure they won't be competitive in the Nissan Z game. One last thing, once they have a successful kit for the 370z, it won't take much to modify it for the Infinity G37, or other future vehicles such as Maxima, M37, etc. that may utilize the VQ37VHR engine format. When you consider that plus global sales, I think Vortech will have a lot of potential with this kit. They pretty much have the muscle car segment wrapped up, but if they are looking to expand in the import market, this would be the kit to build. So lets keep our fingers crossed. |
They already introduced themselves with the 350z and seeing as they never produced a kit for the HR I'm extremly skeptical. Especially when they had a kit out for the camaro less than three months after it's release. When it comes to FI on Nissans the market is turbo biased so the sales aren't going to be that great. Especially since this IS a small numbers car. Look at the last camaro small numbers for it were 30,000 a year that already is 3 times the market we present. when you consider it had years of over 100,000 and even 200,000 a year it makes an application for or cars look ludicrous. Vortech is using your car as an RD source to determine it's costs for a theoretical kit to further define it's sales possibilities. they did the same thing with the HR to a fruitless end. In order for them to produce a kit there would have to be significantly higher demand than there is now. Would it be nice, yes as it adds competition to the market and drives prices down. Is it viable for larger profits simple answer is no. Especially when you consider that all the complexities in the new 370z are going to make the kit harder and more expensive to produce yet the sale point will remain around the price of other vortech kits meaning they will see less return per unit sold than that of kits for other vehicles.
I'll be optimistic for once and say that the vortech unit may be a viable solution as they use primitive pressure regulators instead of ecu tuning to adjust fuel so it may circumvent the complicated ecu that seems to be kicking the tuning companies @**es. Although I can't say I've seen to many 350z vortech cars that haven't thrown out the stuff vortech uses and gotten some other kind of fuel and timing control.
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Stopping sipping the full fat whole milk and wake up. You make yourself look like a fool in every post.
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What thread doesn't go off topic eventually because it starts to stale up? Personally I think you're foolishly optimistic. How bout a $1 bet that this kit never sees the light of day? I'll even mail it to you with an apology letter. Hell if it comes out before the end of the year I'll drive it out to your shop.
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