No. But I can tell you what I'm about to do. In just a few minutes, I'm gonna walk over to my bed and join my girlfriend who's already asleep. When I wake up not only the next morning, but every single morning for the rest of my life...I'll be in CA, more specifically the Peninsula of the Bay Area, one of the most desirable and sought-after places in the world to live.

Every morning you wake up...you're in Wisconsin. :ugh2::ugh2:

Wisconsin Dells is a top notch destination.. Don't hate. :icon17:

just :stirthepot:

Oh and there are benifits out here too but seriously i plan to move to montana or a state near it, or texas (hooray guns, the death penalty, being able to shoot a man dead if he tries to steal from you, and the rednecks there aren't nearly as bad as they are here)

I have to admit though It's never a good thing when you can drive for half an hour and end up in a place where the town sign is an '80s camaro on a blazer frame with 35" tall tires that says "welcome to Crivitz"

Would be interested, if it doesnt destroy my bank account... Keep us posted.

I actually enjoyed that!

I would still take FL over CA tho, especially the south beach & keys area...

But I'm a tri-state area man myself (NY,NJ,CONN) - Especially in Jersey...Everything is like 15 minutes away...Where else can you get the city (NYC), the beach (shitload of them) and like 7 malls in a 30 mile radius (LOL) all in one location. Not to mention Atlantic City which in the next 10-15 years will rival or > Las Vegas simply because we have the boardwalk/beach 30 seconds away!

Some people hate the cold weather and its totally understandable but I like having my 4 seasons and going ski'n too without planning an entire trip around it!

Wait, whats this thread about again?? :rofl2:

I have to spend a week in the Bay Area 4 times a year. The sushi is a bit fresher than I get locally, but other than that I'd rather be at home :) Way overpriced real-estate, high taxes, and lots of tree hugging don't appeal to me :)

:mad:dude same problem in san diego. surfers, hippies, peta members, vegetarians, retard college kids in pacific beach who pick fights with you for no apparent reason. they all the same thing to me. Back to temecula I go!!!!! in a nice house that costs less than my current condo might i add!!!! :shakes head:

aw crap!



......jumps out the window

Was that you that I picked a fight with in PB? haha jk.

Temecula compared to SD though...really? The homes are cheaper for a VERY good reason. Oh and its about 110 there right now:tiphat:

wait...wasnt this a thread about superchargers?

Ha ha ... you all are a jealous bunch of us for living in cali man... hahah where else you gonna find food / nature / everything in the variety that we have? Snow to dry lands... rivers to oceans... we have it covered... Economy wise - cali can be its own country and the US would loose what a 1/4 of its revenue? We pay to play - just like w/ the cars we drive :) Dont hate... appreciate... and yes - where is the vortech at?

psh everbody knows california is so overated, over priced, and i'll tell you what happy cows don't live in california, the weather may be nice but the 15,000 cow mass farms that don't ever let the animals leave the milking pens, and the fact that milk cows in california produce 2/3 the milk fat content of the cows here is why Wisconsin has and always will be the dairy state. So go drink your watery milk, hug a tree, and cause the nations credit crisis a little more. $600,000 for a one story ranch? yeah that isn't inflated in any way...

someones bitter lol
stay on topic guys

Got one name for ya,

Texas.

Try not to make an *** of yourself plz.:icon18:

Well, I can tell you where I like to live, and that's inside my 370z, and what I want to live in it, is a freaking supercharger! can we stay on topic please :tup:

If anyone has any Ideas about design, cost, power, etc. regarding the SUPERCHARGER, please post it now, less then a week and the car goes in for development, would be great to give some feedback to the Vortech engineers.

People that live in California will tell you that despite it's shortcomings with taxes and real estate prices and all, that they still love California and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I moved to SoCal from Seattle 8 years ago and I would never want to leave. I've been to 27 countries and every state in the US. California is simply the nicest place in the world to live. That's also why is has the highest population and largest economy of any US state.

Ill take Hawaii and a supercharger over Cali anyday.

exactly!! where else can you live where everything u need is 10 minutes away(well as far as L.A. anywas lol)you gotta pay to play thats what i say :tup:

How did this become a pro/anti California thread? Let's get back on topic.

They better make this fit on the G37!

As easy as it gets to install, yet the charged air should flow as freely as possible. Minimize cutting in the engine bay.

Inter cooler., when they get to the stage to the size or where to place it. Let them keep in mined that most (if not all) will have an engine oil cooler mounted in front of the radiator.

Cost wise.it really deepens on the HP goal. The VQ37VHR that comes in our cars. comes stock with a 370cc injectors (some one correct me if I'm wrong) those injector will almost max out with full blot on's.

Will Vortec just build the kit and sell it with out a fuel solution. or throw in bigger injector's, fuel regulator, or a fuel pump.

More HP = More $$

Just tell them to go big or go home...

I'd like to see 500, 550, even 600 RWHP! :D

Sdftw!!!!!!

Engine bay cutting :eekdance: I was thinking the same thing on the oil cooler, I was considering installing one this last weekend, but figured they would want to test the car as is. There is no doubt that the supercharger will generate more heat, so looks like an oil cooler will be a must. We'll have to see. Thanks for the input :tup:

Great move on not adding an Oil cooler, let them figure it out :tup:

My guess is they'll only do 100 whp extra with the supercharger if they're doing CARB. I definitely would want one...

...then I think I could just spend all that money on a ton of track time, tires, and brakes. The problem with more power is that, if you use it as god intended (on the track), then you need brake upgrades, possibly more oil cooling, bigger wheels and tires, a new differential, yadda yadda... The smarter move would be to get a Z06, but then I'm not really into the 'vettes...

Decisions, decisions. I think ultimately more power matters less than track time, but I guess if you have a big enough budget, you can do both...

man if only Cali weren't involved in performance parts there would be no such thing as "waiting for CARB certification":stirthepot:

And without the California market and companies producing parts, there wouldn't be much for whiney midwesterners to buy. :hello:

Do you not watch tv? Lol Happy cows come from california.

LOL... Lotta hate for old CA.. It was at a time the 4th largest economy in the world, and is still larger than many industrialized powers..

How's that wine produced in Wisconsin? Enjoying the views overlooking the pacific? :bowrofl:

I want to move to Texas though now there is a good place to live. I think i'd want to be in the north eastern area of the state. Way better than Cali any day.

Yeah it's too bad performance companies don't base themselves out of the midwest because we aren't flooded with cheap illegal labor. I can settle for most of the major tool companies like snap-on, and a massive forging, casting, metalworking industry including Wiseco pistons, and more than a few OEM parts suppliers. Oh and almost a third of the entire nations beer producing facilities (Miller- the beer without rice in it that can still be called beer in Germany)

Dropped the Z off at Vortech yesterday, this will be the preliminary testing for fitment, etc. After that it will be determined if they will move forward with a production kit. Any questions, thoughts or suggestions would be great. :tup: keep voting on the pole, interest is definitely a deciding factor.

why would you want to move here? Texas's emission standards are almost as bad as Californias, and is required to be renewed annually, shitty. And you think California is full of illegal labor? :rofl2:

Thanks for the update. I would be quite sad if they dont follow through. Vortech is a very good company and i would easily sport one of their blowers.

When did the state add the annual emissions cert? Is it state wide or a local ordinance but there are a couple of counties here in Wisconsin that require it too i just don't live in one of those. If that's state wide i may have to go to the backups of Arizona/Nevada or Montana. Gonna have to look that up.

Although being able to shoot someone stealing things on your property would still be sweet.

They probably won't follow through seing as there are only like 10,000 cars sold here in the us so far which is low for a first year so if one out of every 50 of those sees forced induction that would be only about 200 cars and with the number of kits on the market already and the ones sure to come from stillen and hks, not to mention on the tt kits the market is pretty small so if vortech can manage to move 40 units over the span of production(would probably take a few years) at an average kit price of 6500 it would be about 104,000 before taxes assuming 40% markup. so after uncle sam gets his grab that would be about $60,000 profit which isn't all that much for a company like vortech.

Well, I'm glad to see that your finally making a comment about superchargers and not going off topic talking about where you want to live and/or state bashing. Hey, no hard feelings, but my car is under the knife over at Vortech. I'm sure a lot of other forum members want to see this kit come to production, especially me. So a bit of positive encouragement would be great. :tup:

You make a valid point regarding the number of units they may be able to sell, I'm sure this will weigh heavy on their decision to go to production. You left out a few important things though, these cars are sold all over the world, not just the U.S.A. Many more then 10K units sold. Vortech is a global company, they sell and distribute their product in many other countries. Also, it's not always about profit at first, I worked as a product manager for a large cycle company, and we would produce products that we knew wouldn't move a lot of units, but it got us recognition, increased our brand status and moved us into other potential future markets. Look at some of the auto makers that are producing first year electric or hybrid vehicles, most lost money on every car sold for the first year or two, but if they didn't put it out there, they would never stand to make a profit in the future.
If Vortech decides to wait 3 or 4 years to produce this product, then for sure they won't be competitive in the Nissan Z game. One last thing, once they have a successful kit for the 370z, it won't take much to modify it for the Infinity G37, or other future vehicles such as Maxima, M37, etc. that may utilize the VQ37VHR engine format. When you consider that plus global sales, I think Vortech will have a lot of potential with this kit. They pretty much have the muscle car segment wrapped up, but if they are looking to expand in the import market, this would be the kit to build. So lets keep our fingers crossed. :tup:

Stopping sipping the full fat whole milk and wake up. You make yourself look like a fool in every post.

They already introduced themselves with the 350z and seeing as they never produced a kit for the HR I'm extremly skeptical. Especially when they had a kit out for the camaro less than three months after it's release. When it comes to FI on Nissans the market is turbo biased so the sales aren't going to be that great. Especially since this IS a small numbers car. Look at the last camaro small numbers for it were 30,000 a year that already is 3 times the market we present. when you consider it had years of over 100,000 and even 200,000 a year it makes an application for or cars look ludicrous. Vortech is using your car as an RD source to determine it's costs for a theoretical kit to further define it's sales possibilities. they did the same thing with the HR to a fruitless end. In order for them to produce a kit there would have to be significantly higher demand than there is now. Would it be nice, yes as it adds competition to the market and drives prices down. Is it viable for larger profits simple answer is no. Especially when you consider that all the complexities in the new 370z are going to make the kit harder and more expensive to produce yet the sale point will remain around the price of other vortech kits meaning they will see less return per unit sold than that of kits for other vehicles.

I'll be optimistic for once and say that the vortech unit may be a viable solution as they use primitive pressure regulators instead of ecu tuning to adjust fuel so it may circumvent the complicated ecu that seems to be kicking the tuning companies @**es. Although I can't say I've seen to many 350z vortech cars that haven't thrown out the stuff vortech uses and gotten some other kind of fuel and timing control.

What thread doesn't go off topic eventually because it starts to stale up? Personally I think you're foolishly optimistic. How bout a $1 bet that this kit never sees the light of day? I'll even mail it to you with an apology letter. Hell if it comes out before the end of the year I'll drive it out to your shop.

What is a Vortech kit.. It is fabrication of custom mounting plates and brackets, a bunch of off the shelf parts, and a few car specific pieces like something to flash the ECU or piggyback on to it. A company this big can probably fab everything themselves and maybe even manufacture the parts. If the cost to entry was so very high, how would a much smaller company like GTM ever produce a custom kit?

Also, what does the Camaro kit have to do with a 370z kit? They already built the kit, why would they not move on to another new car if there is a profit to be made?

As to the 350z kit, I own it and still run the split second box. If you know what you are doing when tuning with it, it is a great tool for boost levels a stock block can handle.

My assessment - you are talking way above your pay grade. What is your profession?