Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx (Post 2476385)

So, I'm about ready to pull the trigger on the Turnkey kit. I plan on installing myself. The car isn't a DD, though I drive it a lot.. I have my jeep to take over DD responsibility till i finish the build.

Parts list: Gonna need the supercharger oil cooler line kit for my 25 r cooler. Mike recommends the one with thermostat.. do I really need it? I let her warm up fully before driving to begin with. Gonna get some digital gauges to replace my stock voltage gauge and my clock to monitor boost/afr and oil pres / water temp.

I have art pipes. I've read the fitment with the new oil filter location can be close.. Anyone chime in? I've got the FI non-res c/f cbe fwiw, and I do still have my stock cats, as Baer recommended using them.

Oil filter has nothing to do with Art pipes,the filter is on the driver side

I've got jack stands, torque wrenches, and a ton of tools. My roommate and I are both air force C-17 mechanics.. Crew Chiefs. I think we can handle things, but any advice and tips are more than welcome.

Catch cans will come once I see how everything sits. Stock clutch / csc for now.

You don't need them

Car is a 2011 Touring/Sport 6MT. Hoping for 450whp on 8lbs and 490whp @10lbs. :p

Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx (Post 2476419)

Whats the difference really between the two? Engine-wise isn't just the exhaust different?

Yeah, otherwise it's just an open circuit and takes longer for the oil to warm up from my understanding

Thanks for the info Baer

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2476425)

If you live in climates that get some cold weather then you need the thermo plate,again it will partilly flow oil to the cooler until 180 deg then it opens up fully.

It doesn't take longer to warm up b/c most of the flow by passes the cooler till 180 deg.

You can use the Art pipes if you want to ,Sam told me to use stock cats b/c they keep some back pressure in the exhaust and these engines have a lot of overlap, the extra pressure in the exhaust will aid in cylinder filling hence more power.

Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 2476571)

Yes, they will eventually get clogged or burn out. I had the Art pipes with sc, and they were a pain in the a$$ to get around when cleaning the air filter. I highly suggest, OP, that you use a good high quality 2.4-5 inch test pipe. Trust me, you will still have plenty good of back pressure.

Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 2476571)

I highly suggest, OP, that you use a good high quality 2.4-5 inch test pipe. Trust me, you will still have plenty good of back pressure.

Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx (Post 2476587)

Guess I'll wrap the exhaust with heat wrap then.

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2476753)

Don't sit here and suggest that test pipes will have plenty of BP you don't really think a TP is going to hold BP.There are plenty of guys hear running cats including myself that have a lot of miles with no issues some guys have 20k +.

Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 2476849)

If I'm holding 10 lbs of boost fine and pushing 450whp on 100+ degree days in an auto and Invidia TP's with no issues, I think I'm more than qualified to offer my experience to a potential buyer. So get off your high horse, there is more than one way to peel an onion. I'm sure everyone is glad what you have is working for you.

Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 2476885)

Agreed, those are great numbers. Remember, I have an AT and an HR. 11psi on a VHR is like pushing 13 psi on an HR, which would equal more hp. You know as well as I do Baer that dyno numbers can very greatly. I do know I gained 200 whp from baseline. Please remind us again how much horsepower you were pushing in your old 7AT setup??

Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 2476934)

My meth setup is for safety, not tuned for it (50/50 water/meth). My 10psi would be like 8psi for your car (VHR). I can easily run a smaller pulley to push me to 500whp mark, but the block is not built just yet. We should meet up for a fun run sometime, I think you would be surprised :tiphat:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2476986)

Settle it on the streets! Finally some action going on around here!

Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 2477066)

What kind of cats were you using when using when you did this 11lb run? Note my compliment from a year ago for how well your old car did as an auto.

GTM Supercharger Stage 1.5 - YouTube

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2476860)

And I have 516 rwhp on 11psi so I'm sure I know I'm talking about.:tiphat:

Originally Posted by Motinatan (Post 2477112)

hi baer383 i just finish my project Gtm stage 1.5 sc with 8 psi and i have 514.8rwhp and 50 kgm and no cat is installed

what r u doing abut the fuel starvation problem ? its a really bad thing . i dont know what to do . i looks like theres no solution for thet issue

Originally Posted by fryzia23 (Post 2477170)

Right now Im seeing 10lbs max boost on 88mm pulley 93 Octane since I installed stage1.5 s/c kit. This thread makes me wonder whether to switch to cats or leave the test pipes on before I get the car tuned in 3 weeks. :confused:

I might switch back to hfcs that I still have and see if theres any difference.

Baer, do you think I would see more boost with hfc/cats?

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2477175)

You will burn out HFC before stock cats,and Sam told me to use the cats so I did and still have no problems so far.

I am running the 92mm pulley seeing 11-12 lb's depending on temp outside.

Originally Posted by fryzia23 (Post 2477186)

If you get 11-12 lbs of boost with 92mm pulley then I should be getting more than 10lbs with 88mm.

Originally Posted by fryzia23 (Post 2477207)

Do you get 93octane?

Originally Posted by fryzia23 (Post 2477214)

That's weird. They told me as long I get 93 it will be fine with 88mm

Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx (Post 2477420)

I've got 92 octane here with up to 10% ethanol :/ hopefully I wont need meth on the 92mm pulley. We shall see. Order goes in next Friday when I get paid.. 4 weeks lead time. my FI exhaust should be here then. I'll dyno with both ART pipes and stock cats just to see what the difference is. I'm gonna have a 96mm pulley on for now. Next spring, I'll throw the 92mm on and dyno again. I'm getting a baseline done tomorrow. I have post maf tubes and k&n drop ins, plus the art pipes installed on a stock tune. I'll post results as soon as I can. All in all, 516whp is insane. I'd be MORE than happy with 490whp and no meth.

on a side note.. that dyno graph goes to 7800 rpm. O_o

Originally Posted by snowsurfdirtx (Post 2477420)

I've got 92 octane here with up to 10% ethanol :/ hopefully I wont need meth on the 92mm pulley. We shall see. Order goes in next Friday when I get paid.. 4 weeks lead time. my FI exhaust should be here then. I'll dyno with both ART pipes and stock cats just to see what the difference is. I'm gonna have a 96mm pulley on for now. Next spring, I'll throw the 92mm on and dyno again. I'm getting a baseline done tomorrow. I have post maf tubes and k&n drop ins, plus the art pipes installed on a stock tune. I'll post results as soon as I can. All in all, 516whp is insane. I'd be MORE than happy with 490whp and no meth.

on a side note.. that dyno graph goes to 7800 rpm. O_o

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2477431)

You can get 490 without meth but you will have to use the 92mm pulley,and the 7800 rpm is alittle high plus making 514.8 on 8 psi I think they have a very generous dyno.
The 96mm pulley will only get you about 440-450