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Minicobra1 12-05-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 309037)
If your not trying to hide info Josh, why can't you just tell us the type of supercharger Stillen is trying to make? That's all alot of us want to know!

Agreed, I don't think it's going to destroy the project or hurt sales if we know it's going to be a centrifugal rather then a roots or twin screw style.

Rickey89 12-05-2009 07:29 PM

if they release after the tt kits come out they will lose sales imo,

i would infer that it would be out around the same time the tt kits are out.
:confused:

Zsteve 12-05-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickey89 (Post 309741)
if they release after the tt kits come out they will lose sales imo,

i would infer that it would be out around the same time the tt kits are out.
:confused:

I dont think it will hurt. A TT and a SC are two different animals IMO. Those that want a SC are only looking for a modest gain in hp/tq but those that want a TT are looking for huge gains. I only want around 80 more hp/tq with a SC so that hopefully it will be more of a install and forget mod. A TT would need constant tweaking IMO. I will be waiting and watching to see how the SCs do and thier reliability and if all goes well have one in a yr after they have it all worked out and reliable. But I would like to know what type it will be now if possible.

2fast4thelaw 12-08-2009 08:10 PM

I am hoping its not a roots type blower like the one for the 350z. I am hoping they use the TVS/rotex system or similar as it looks great on paper! HKS and GTM are using it with very impressive results. If Stillen is going this route we can definitly expect up to 450 rwhp and 375 tq. I am willing to wait and see what Stillen has to offer before I choose which way to go. I was at first all over the idea of going twin turbo with AAM but the more I talked with them the more extensive the project was going to be and the cost went from 10K to 15K really quick and I got cold feet and walked away. After taking a step back I truly feel a well designed supercharger system will more than satisfy my ND4SPD. I have been very happy with all of my Stillen mods, so much i display it proudly on my windshield, so most likely thier new supercharger will ultimatly end up under my hood.

kannibul 12-08-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlenz (Post 302939)
400whp actually = 488 crank hp assuming 18% loss...but whos counting? :rolleyes:

2010 will be good for the 370! By summer we should have at least 2 supercharger kits and ~4 TT kits to choose from!

Sorry, I did the math backwards. 400WHP + 18% = 472.

Your way,
488 - 18% = 400...

Anyhow...yeah, who's counting :icon14:

kannibul 12-08-2009 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 308759)
We'll have information soon.. and part of true R&D is testing testing testing.. ensuring a kit like this is built to the standards of STILLEN and Steve Millen. Not trying to "hide info"..

:)

Better Steve Millen, and not Matt Millen. As any Lions fan will tell you...any that are left...lol

370Zsteve 12-08-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 308759)
We'll have information soon.. and part of true R&D is testing testing testing.. ensuring a kit like this is built to the standards of STILLEN and Steve Millen. Not trying to "hide info"..

:)

Stillen did a nice job on the GTR turbos, relax lads, it's frigin December. (Cali, Fla posters pls ignore :tiphat:)

I see a centrifugal here imo

Kyle@STILLEN 12-10-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 307165)
Kyle, any Idea on a realistic release date on this. There was a post about 9 months ago that said it was coming along nicely :confused: I don't think that is over delivering. http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...html#post41885

I know these things take time to develop, but there is obviously some problems in R&D or it's just not a priority at the moment. Either way, it would be great if you could shed some real light on the development, if it's going to be a Centrifugal or Roots style, and a realistic delivery date. Will it really be in May, or possible for sale sooner?

I assure you, there is absolutely nothing wrong with our R&D process and we have not had any delays due to this particular project.

As I have said in this thread and others, our biggest delay, was caused by the Targa Newfoundland rally car. We've actually been working on the supercharger since early 2009 or late 2008 (don't remember exactly when we started) but when the development of the GT R rally car began, we had to put some of our other projects on hold.

imag 12-10-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 316646)
I assure you, there is absolutely nothing wrong with our R&D process and we have not had any delays due to this particular project.

As I have said in this thread and others, our biggest delay, was caused by the Targa Newfoundland rally car. We've actually been working on the supercharger since early 2009 or late 2008 (don't remember exactly when we started) but when the development of the GT R rally car began, we had to put some of our other projects on hold.

I'm sure the slow sales of the Z didn't help our priority any either...

kannibul 12-10-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by imag (Post 316743)
I'm sure the slow sales of the Z didn't help our priority any either...

I think around 97% of all the 370'z produced for this model year, shipped to the US, have sold?

(this going off sales threads in general discussion, but I may be remembering the numbers incorrectly)

Even then, in this economy, performance cars generally don't do very well, and drop off horribly in favor of cheaper...

Kyle@STILLEN 12-10-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by imag (Post 316743)
I'm sure the slow sales of the Z didn't help our priority any either...

To be completely honest, I don't think that was a big factor. I do know that the supercharger will also fit the G37 and there is a very good possibility that it will fit the 07-08 Z's as well. So the lack of new car sales on the Z weren't a huge factor. When we design our kits we try to make them fit multiple vehicle's. This helps everyone by allowing us to ammortize the cost of the R&D over a larger number of potential sales which in turn lowers the customer's retail price.

At the end of the day, Steve just wanted to go play in Newfoundland with his GT R and it had to be ready by September LMAO!!!

On a serious note though, we are planning on sitting down at the beginning of next week to discuss what information we can release. We all agree that it's about time that we offer some more details on the kit as we are pretty far along in the development process. I just need to ask the Manager's what they're comfortable talking about.

StillenZ 12-10-2009 09:42 PM

I'm dyin' to hear some numbers!!!!!

imag 12-10-2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 316765)
To be completely honest, I don't think that was a big factor. I do know that the supercharger will also fit the G37 and there is a very good possibility that it will fit the 07-08 Z's as well. So the lack of new car sales on the Z weren't a huge factor. When we design our kits we try to make them fit multiple vehicle's. This helps everyone by allowing us to ammortize the cost of the R&D over a larger number of potential sales which in turn lowers the customer's retail price.

At the end of the day, Steve just wanted to go play in Newfoundland with his GT R and it had to be ready by September LMAO!!!

On a serious note though, we are planning on sitting down at the beginning of next week to discuss what information we can release. We all agree that it's about time that we offer some more details on the kit as we are pretty far along in the development process. I just need to ask the Manager's what they're comfortable talking about.

Nice - thanks for doing that.

And I can understand wanting to play with the GT R in Newfoundland :rolleyes:

imag 12-10-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 316753)
I think around 97% of all the 370'z produced for this model year, shipped to the US, have sold?

That may be true, but they drastically cut back production. They were hoping to sell 40K Zs this year IIRC...

Snakes709 12-11-2009 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw (Post 313702)
I am hoping its not a roots type blower like the one for the 350z. I am hoping they use the TVS/rotex system or similar as it looks great on paper! HKS and GTM are using it with very impressive results. If Stillen is going this route we can definitly expect up to 450 rwhp and 375 tq. I am willing to wait and see what Stillen has to offer before I choose which way to go. I was at first all over the idea of going twin turbo with AAM but the more I talked with them the more extensive the project was going to be and the cost went from 10K to 15K really quick and I got cold feet and walked away. After taking a step back I truly feel a well designed supercharger system will more than satisfy my ND4SPD. I have been very happy with all of my Stillen mods, so much i display it proudly on my windshield, so most likely thier new supercharger will ultimatly end up under my hood.

if they go with a tvs im going to be kinda pissed off. I bought the Harrop TVS 1320 for my cobalt, worked awesome, but i ended up selling it 2 months after i got it so i could get a 370z..lol


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