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kannibul 10-30-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 258909)
They can't discuss anything because they don't work like GTM. We should all stop asking questions and instead go back to doing what we were and ramble for pages about what we want the kit to do. Ecu tune, screw compressor, ease of install/maintenance (this had better be easier than installing those god damn headers, and i better not need the torch to make it fit right). Also a plus would be making the inter cooler area of the manifold come apart so that at a future time a larger and more efficient core could be installed with a higher hood. Or the ability to pour ice in the water system (big reservoir with large lid). Or get crazy and add meth injection to the stage 4 kit. I know you won't do most of that but hey throws some ideas on the table.

I don't understand the secrecy, it doesn't help them at all. If anything, it'd be productive because there are a lot of people on here that want certain products, and are quite knowledgable. Instead they are assuming they know what's best for the 370z market.

I don't doubt that Stillen will make a quality product, but, if they come out with, say, a centrifugal supercharger, well, good luck...I'll wait for someone who's doing a roots/twin-screw type that has immediate low-end gains...or, go to a turbo where I'll get more power...

Even then, with a 7AT, I don't know how much farther I'll push it...if I go past bolt-ons.

G3 intake, F.I. Cat Back, and likely their longtube headers...and that'd probably be it until someone does forced induction on a 7AT. (G37 or 370Z)

LiquidZ 10-30-2009 11:45 AM

I am keeping my fingers crossed for a TVS unit.

The performance of those blowers is remarkable.

Zsteve 10-30-2009 08:04 PM

Can you guys tell us what PSI range it will be running on?

Zsteve 10-30-2009 08:12 PM

Wouldnt the centrifugal be better for our cars as it continues to build as the rpms increase? I think we have pretty good TQ off the line as is without having to worry about spinning the wheels. I came from a small turbo that had tons of low end TQ (300lbs for a car under 3K pounds) and it was great but kinda petered out in the upper rpms, wouldnt that happen with the roots/twin screw or would those give low and high end power?

What might help us 7AT guys is to have launch control, anyone know if that is available for us?

Mike 10-30-2009 09:49 PM

I can only offer this. I had a stage 3 stollen on my 350 and installed two vortech systems on friends cars for them. I greatly preffered the stillens response over the centri. Then, when I got my C6, I did a vortech on that, and at Spring Mountain Corvette school, I drove a callaway roots style. On the vette, the centri felt better. The 370 has more low end than the 350, but I still think the roots will be a better option. Especially if they go with a TVS

NewYorkJon34 10-31-2009 12:17 AM

Either way, my goal is to have a Stillen supercharger (hopefully twin-screw) pushing 450whp/350tq.

imag 11-23-2009 07:15 PM

Totally unfounded speculation follows:

I was wondering today if this S/C is proving more tricky than they thought. Stillen knows that many people would want to track the car with the S/C on it and will keep that in mind when designing it. With all the issues cooling the stock motor, it may be difficult to find a way to keep it trackworthy with boost...

There may also be the CARB issues. They know we want 400 rwhp. That may be difficult to achieve and keep it CA legal.

Anyway, as I say, pure speculation... sorry if anyone came here hoping for an update.

Zsteve 11-23-2009 08:16 PM

I think part of it is to keep stock hood too, so they have to work around that also. Im not sure how much a regular SC give HP wise but with bolt ons we are at 300+ rwhp, so a SC would need to produce 80 - 100 rwhp. Im fine with 70 rwhp but the price would have to reflect the lower hp. I also wouldnt mind a slight mod to the hood as long as it keeps the lines it has on it if that would make it so they could use the other types of SCs.

1slow370 11-24-2009 04:53 AM

You know what would be sweet if they sold a 2 sided pulley with the kit that when installed one way is set to california carb regulations and when put on the other way is set to normal for everyone else. Make it real obvious and have it say C.A.R.B legal on one side and NOT C.A.R.B LEGAL on the other.

Liquid_G 11-24-2009 09:01 AM

^^^ LOL at "ghey mode"

lemansz20 11-24-2009 10:02 AM

I want to know about the G3 intakes if they will be compatible or everyone pretty much has to sell them for the new supercharger?? I think that is a question that should be answered, and it will give out no information really hurting the production of it.

imag 11-24-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lemansz20 (Post 293976)
I want to know about the G3 intakes if they will be compatible or everyone pretty much has to sell them for the new supercharger?? I think that is a question that should be answered, and it will give out no information really hurting the production of it.

It might hurt the sales of the G3 intakes though :p

In fact, since they haven't said anything, they most likely *do* replace the intakes. If they didn't, they would probably let us know. Besides, forced induction almost always requires custom intakes...

Red370 11-24-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by imag (Post 294000)
It might hurt the sales of the G3 intakes though :p

In fact, since they haven't said anything, they most likely *do* replace the intakes. If they didn't, they would probably let us know. Besides, forced induction almost always requires custom intakes...

In order to fit the blower under the hood, I'm assuming they are making a custom intake plenum for the system, meaning different throttle body locations, could be a bit lower so fitment with the G3's may be an issue. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that no, they wont be compatible.

semtex 11-24-2009 02:15 PM

The fronts might be. Keep in mind that it's not a single piece all the way from the throttle bodies to the filters. I could see them tossing the back sections but keeping the front sections that actually pass through to the front of the radiator. This is completely speculative, of course.

kannibul 11-24-2009 02:51 PM

Just out of curiousity, if the engine RPM is controlled by VVEL, then why bother with having throttle bodies?

It's not like they're really doing anything...just staying wide open, and being in the way.


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