Mmmm, Mmmm. It sounds better everytime Kyle talks about it. I am staring to get excited about this again again. Be glad when we see the pricing, so I can know how long I will have to eat Ramen, lol.

Side question. How will this kit work out with the NISMO Z? I have heard folks talk about the chassis dampeners interfering with oil cooler installs and such. Just in case I spring for the NISMO instead of the Base Sport *cheezy grin*.

The front bar on the NISMO is easily removed! That being said, it may not need to be. Water-to-air ICs have the benefit of only needing a small core in the air.

Joey is correct on both of his points.

Some of the additional bracing on the Nismo Z is easily removable. However, I don't know how much of it will need to be removed. We are looking at having a Nismo in for test fitting for the last two days of this week and all of next. If that car doesn't work out then we have other local customer's who have offered their Nismo's for test fitment.

Also, the air to water intercooler is substantially smaller than an air to air intercooler. One thing you will want to seriously consider though is the additiona of an aftermarket oil cooler.

Kyle is finally is spilling the beans! Its been a while since I kept tabs on this thread but it looks like the Stillen SC is shaping up to be some piece of work:tup: Like everyone else, I cant wait to compare dyno curves with the Stillen and GTM centris. '10 is gonna be fun!

Agreed. I'm already saving up for one of these kits. Most likely by summertime, it'll be on.:tup:

We just received the prototype castings back from the foundry and they look AMAZING!!!! I can't wait to post pictures soon!!!

We have done all of the engineering of this kit in house and we have produced a couple of rapid prototype intake manifolds which are a plastic material that allow us to check for fitment and we can even send them out to test airflow and what not. The parts that we ran on the car a couple of months ago were actually plastic prototype pieces. This allowed us to watch all the belts and check alignment and confirm the engineering before going into the casting process.

We obviously don't have an aluminum foundry in the back of our shop so for some of our products we have to outsource to specialists. Then the parts come back to our shop for final machining and finishing before being assembled with the intercoolers and the rest of the kit.

The company who does all of our castings also manufactures parts for some of the largest manufacturers in the industry including:

TRD
Roush Racing
DART heads
Chrysler
Cosworth
Bombardier
Edelbrock
and many, many more.

We are also very proud to say that they are based in the U.S.A. This is very important to STILLEN. Too many companies these days outsource to other countries and we try our best to keep all of our manufacturing in-house or at least in the U.S.A.

Woo! God Bless America, I <3 Stillen.

Can't wait to see the pics of the castings.

Me either! A casting pic would be more than enough to kill the elephant in the room (since saying "vortec blower" really didn't give us much)

You missed my point. completely. :p

^^^Nice Find! Finally some proof of life! Stillen relocated both TBs to one side of the intake manifold...tricky:ugh2:


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about the single side TB setup> Seems like a good engineering/packaging idea but doesn't do much for engine compartment aesthetics. Half of our engine bay will be naked and bare lol...no biggie though

Oh trust me! There will be some more parts back on the other side. For example, a big shiny blower!!!

Kyle> ahhh...so the I/C will sit on one side of the engine bay and the blower on the other eh?

The way I understood it was that cooling would happen post T/B. As in somewhere inside this casting...

No, the heat exchanger will be up behind the front bumper in front of the radiator.

Sorry for the confusion, "blower" is another term for supercharger.

We have developed a diagram to explain how the intercooler works. I will be posting it soon.

Thanks for the update, very exciting.

That's it. Breaking out the credit card.

Keep up the good work Stillen.

Sounds cool. Can't wait to see that.

Posted some additional information regarding the STILLEN Supercharger, intake manifold, and specifically regarding the intercooler setup chosen, along with reasons why.

370Z / G37 Supercharger System Progress: Intake Manifold & Intercooler : STILLEN

Next up is some additional features of the intake manifold itself.. should be up later tonight..




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cool update

That was a great update. Essentially an air to water intercooler inside the intake manifold. Nice design. The picture does not indicate but are the intake streams kept separate or combined inside the manifold?

As promised.. here's some additional information and rendered CAD designs of the intake manifold in action.. along with some of the benefits..

370Z / G37 Supercharger System Progress: Intake Manifold Detailed : STILLEN



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This is going to be so sweet. :excited:

After the Subaru, I said no more heavy modding. But, this thread is starting to make me reconsider.

i said that same thing when i sold my cobalt, i said "well this car is 280 with just intakes, thats good enough"....yea that lastest a day or two until i seen a nitrous kit on sale..lol

I have to say it looks like some really serious engineering and thought has gone into this kit and i'm really anxious to see the results from all this work.

Good work Stillen and thanks for all the updates.

I agree.

that intake manifold is truly a work of art, design and looks, GTM is going to seriously have to impress me to sway me from this setup.

Definitely a nice update

The intake intercooler is a great idea, how much do you expect it to cool the air? And will a regular IC be needed too as the intake one is kinda small? I think if the intake IC cools the air pretty good then this could be a common setup down the road for FI cars.

The intercooler in the intake manifold is the only intercooler. The reason its so small is because its an air to water unit. Water is continuously cycled through the intercooler to a heat exchanger mounted in the front of the vehicle by a pump. The heat exchanger in the front of the vehicle acts just like a radiator by cooling the warm water from the intake manifold. Cooled water from the heat exchanger is pumped back to the intake manifold for the cycle to begin again.

Air to water intercoolers don't need to be huge to cool effectively because water is very good at absorbing heat.

I just hope that they dont get heat soaked and rob us of power.

That's why the water is pumped into and out of the intercooler continuously. It is still possible for the intercooler to be heatsoaked, but we will have to see what Stillen says when they begin real world testing.

This setup is almost identical to computer hardware cooling, and if the level of water in/out is efficient then there will be no issues. I have seen 100°C CPUs drop into the 50-55°C range with a medium to high water cooling system.

I remember those days. I think I'm about due for a new computer haha.

Yep, I am still in them. I saw the blog post and instantly thought PC setup. Only thing that would be better would be certain types of oils, I have seen PCs setup with an oil liquid and they cool about 10°C lower but the oil is extremely expensive from what I hear.