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Originally Posted by Z eliminator a thought ? the GTR has launch control and it an automatic. Any body know how it works on there car. GTR doesn't have a
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GTR doesn't have a torque converter. It was two clutch packs of multiple discs. 1 set of clutches for gears 1/3/5 and other set for 2/4/6. It launches the same as a normal manual trans except the clutches are hydrauliclly operated and electronically controled vs having a man pedal. Consecutive gears are already pulled and ready and when it shifts, one clutch disengages and the other engages hence the super fast shifting.
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I would suggest reading the info on Racelogics website as there is some really good stuff on there. You need to realize that when this system cuts power, we are talking thousandths of a second (1 injector pulse) at a time. The point of this is to keep your tires right on the cusp of slipping, which in theroy is also the point of maximum traction. Do I agree that tires and suspension should be looked at? Sure, but if you need a set of tires for every track condition this could easily be considered cheaper.
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I understand the concept of how this works, but my only real question is; Would this interfere with the Aquamist Direct-Port Methanol kit?
If the Aquamist kit reads off injector duty cycle and you have the traction control shutting injector pulses off, won't that clash with each other coming out of the hole? I would think you would get an uneven spray pattern going on.
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You bring up a good point Staples. All I know is my Racelogic setup seems to be working flawless with my Aquamist setup.
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Staples does bring up a good point I have the direct port meth system just haven't gotten around to putting it in yet. I will test this once I put it in the meth kit.
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I would think the better question would be what amount of combustion would be generated with a 50/50 mix without fuel. Since it cuts a different cylinder everytime, I doubt there would be enough meth in the cylinder to actually effect anything.
I am only familar with meth feeds at the tb's, so with direct port does it only spray a cylinder on induction or is it pre-loading meth the whole time? I would guess that either way there would be to much air in the chamber for it to even ignite. Worst case scenario would be pre-loading the whole time, but without the added cooling of fuel, the cylinder temps/high evaporation rate of the meth there might not even be enough in the chamber to be concerned about. Someone is going to have to test this, but I would have a hard time seeing this causing any problems. If you guys want, I can send an e-mail to the guys at racelogic and see of they have any experiance with this. Sent from my SGH-T889V using Tapatalk 2
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I do turn off the factory TC and i also have the brake fuse pulled.
Can any body send me the specs that they have on the unit. Like rpm cut backs ect. And for some strange reason my car runs richer A/F ratios when i run the race logic down the track. I emailed race logic and they told me that the unit will not work on 7 AT's for launch control. But every thing else will work fine , Sam is working on this for me, as he thinks that he can make it work. Currently he is testing it on a 7 AT. Z
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Are you reading this through an aftermarket wideband or through UpRev software through the ECU wideband?
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From reading this I'm a little pissed off. I got the GTM racelogic control cuz I wanted launch control. When it came time to install Sam asked if I wanted the fancy display like u have shown here with 0-25% slip adjustments or the launch control with no lift shift with a generic 5% increment adjustment. Now that I have this generic box with 5% adjustment I see that you have the fancy display with more adjustment and launch control. I am maybe assuming he was meaning to say the no lift shift was with this generic clunky display? You guys are all saying this same display (I'm calling the fancy one) will do it also? I'm hoping someone can chime in and Sam or Mike can clear this up cuz I didn't spend 10s of thousands of dollars building my car to get a cheap *** display when this one would of worked the same and had more adjustment.
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You have the analog unit ,and I have the digital display unit from my understanding they both have launch control. If I were you I would just swap to the digital display.
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You will have launch control, both units come with it as long as they were programmed thay way. No lift shift is something you will have to talk to them about. From all my discussions with RL you need the 4 independant abs reading unit with the software to get no lift to work.
If you hook up the racelogic software to the racelogic (via serial connection) you should be able to set launch control in there. That is one benifit to the digital is you can set all that stuff without the software. Sent from my SGH-T889V using Tapatalk 2
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I ran into one night had what I THINK he called a PROlogic traction control module (said it was the first in America...Sam would know, he did all the work) Red Z, TT and a claimed 750 HP. The car was friggin AMAZING but, BUT, it goes thru the gears SOOOO quick that the advantage of the traction control were almost completely negated by his hitting the rev limiter. I can't remember his name but he was "testing" his new GTR Black against this monster Z. (maybe he hadn't adapted to the setup yet). The z won out easily however, the GTR was slated for a trip to Forged performance.
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I did talk to Sam last night and told me if I wanted the digital display that we can definetely put it in but im limited on space. The only clean place to put it is in the glove box and its to far out of reach for that. I did get the system tapped into the abs for no lift shift. After talking with Sam I think I'm going to stick with the analog controller so the launch control is right at my finger with a button. What I'm not sure yet is how u set the rpm level u want for launch control if its an analog unit and not digital display
If the only way to adjust the launch control is with the LCD display then I will most likely have to switch displaysOh and Squeeze your video really amped me up to get my car back. I can't wait to be shredding tires. Not sure if I can handle more videos
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Man just put it in the same spot I have mine right next to the Steering wheel so you can have easy access to the unit. The only other way to change the launch control settings is to hook a laptop up and make changes that way. I am doing another video this coming weekend.
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