GTM Performance Engineering: MHI Twin Turbo Official Release

Chuck33079

And we don't know how many people here paid, but didn't feel the need to tell everyone. I wouldn't have. That would be between me and GTM.

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G37sHKS

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slynx

When did they start taking payments for the group buy? I haven't checked in here for so long.

SPOHN

First of June

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Tb09z

When is last minute?? Lol

Diabel

Yeah, everyone wants to pull out in last minute from this GB, only 7 months of waiting, shame on you bastards

Lesson is simple, those who paid upfront with big trust for GTM to be very first in line for the kit when it's ready, have to be patient to the very end or pay the fee. On the sidenote, I'm not able to understand why anyone paid before they deliver...because the brand awarness was strong?

Alkatraz

Holy mother of god! Seriously??? This will be my last answer on this subject, the message isn't getting through.

The 'restocking fee' which is only payable by people who took advantage of the layaway option and no one else was written into contracts that were signed well before any delay had occurred or was even expected (both by GTM or us buyers). Every single person on the group buy has the option of pulling out should they so desire. For some there will be costs involved in doing so, for others not. Those for whom a cost would be incurred were made fully aware of this potential cost before they signed up and were aware of the risk. In order to get the advantage of a layaway option, they chose to accept this risk. We can debate whether or not GTM should charge it after these massive delays (I wouldn't) all day long but it doesn't change the facts. Does the massive delay suck? Hell yeah it does but every single person who put money on the table knew (or at least should have known) that the risk of delay was there. Im not surprised that it has been delayed, i am only surprised by how much it has been delayed. I can also completely understand how this type of delay would occur on a project like this and how GTM's systems are failing them especially when it comes to communication. Does that make it right? No. Is it going to hurt them in the long run? Yes. Are they doing it all on purpose just to screw everyone over? No.

The main reason people paid upfront is because the kits will be supplied on a first paid first served basis. Along with this I personally paid many months ago because it looked to me as though the exchange rate would drop and the kit would be more expensive if I waited (a gamble that proved to be a good one). Others would have paid because they are like a lot of people and if they have the money sitting around then they would probably spend it on something else.

After all this maybe I probably should ask Mike for a little discount......

Cell

Nothing to restock if nothing was actually sent out to a customer that could of been returned to be restocked. Unless the contract specifically defines restocking fee, it doesn't mean anything else other than what I just said.

Plus, one of the things that GTM wanted to do was have the MHI kit stocked up and ready to ship next business day.

Source: See #13
GTM Performance Engineering: 370Z MHI Twin Turbo Pre-Release



Thread is pretty off topic but whatever. I hope the best for everyone including GTM and Happy Holidays everyone.

elperuano

Did you see how many likes my posts got? You're still doing the same thing. Enjoy man.

Mkai0

Still waiting for my refund, I'll give an update of how things go. The good news is, I am selling a lot of parts that some of you may be interested in. I'll post them in the for sale section soon.

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Mkai0

As promised-

High horsepower parts for sale!

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Alkatraz

Ok...i just cant help myself....

What Is Layaway - Pros & Cons and Stores That Offer Layaway Plans
"While every store has their own rules, most layaway programs follow the same four basic process:
You pick out the items you want to put on layaway. Many stores only offer layaway for items in certain departments, such as jewelry or electronics.
You make a down payment. The down payment varies by store. Some stores let you choose the amount, while others charge an amount based on your total purchase price.
You make small payments over time. You can make weekly, biweekly, or even monthly payments, depending on the store’s policy.
Once you pay off the total purchase price plus any layaway fees, you can pick up your items.
The seemingly straightforward process has a myriad of complicated fees. While every store has a slightly different policy, stores charge some or all of these fees:
Service Fee. The service fee covers the store’s cost of processing multiple payments and keeping the items off the shelves. The service fee typically ranges from $5 to $10.
Cancellation Fee. Most stores charge a cancellation fee if you decide to cancel your layaway plan, or if you cannot make all the payments by the due date.
Restocking Fee. Some stores charge a restocking fee if you do not make your payments on time, or do not finish paying for your products by the due date."

Cell

How do you put a product on layaway when it isn't even completed to be shipped out. You NEED to have a finished product to have it on layaway.

Alkatraz

If you can show me the US Federal or Califorinia state law that states this, then I will happily agree with you. I am at a disadvantage not being an American but I see no reason why they would have to have the item physically on the shelf in order to arrange a layaway plan. If the seller cant deliver the product by the time that the last payment is made, then they are liable.

Cell

The Feds and California will not go into detail as to what restocking fee and layaway means. This is usually done in a contract between two parties.

Like I said before, if the terms are not defined in the contract, it's up in the air as to what it really means.

As for me, I still stand my ground as to what the two terms mean. You cannot restock something that was never in possession by the customer and you cannot put a product in layaway when it is not finished.

Unless someone is willing to post the definitions on the contract, it is pointless trying to argue it. In civil court here in the US, person only needs to prove 51% to win the case. If it is not defined in the contract, chances are the customer would win if he/she decided to take it to court.