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brucelidat 05-22-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3206335)
I didn't flip my crash bar, we cut off the tow hook mount and bolted a tow strap to the plate that was left. I stuck the strap up in the bumper so it doesn't block any cooling. It has a zip tie on on the strap so I can pull it out of the bumper if I need it.


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Would flipping the crash bar allow me to keep the tow hook?

JWillis72 05-22-2015 01:59 PM

You can't use it then unless your going to drill a big hole in the bumper in front of it.


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JWillis72 05-22-2015 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VSS370z (Post 3206340)
I at one point thought of buying the Stillen but when i read about the wall you hit in hp and the many headaches some people have gone thru with trying to get more out of it i change my mind and went turbo. Best decision i have made cause 430whp at 8psi already is starting to feel slow!

Do you track it at all?



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370Zsteve 05-22-2015 02:26 PM

True dat. I mean, come on, just a few years ago 400+ *was* a monster street car.:shakes head:

Besides, if I have the need for stupid fast, I can always jump on my motorcycle. :tup:

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3206274)
I get wanting a monster street car but I always wonder how many people have driven a 400+WHP car, it's not the fastest but it's a ton of fun if you use it.


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ANMVQ 05-22-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3206345)
Would flipping the crash bar allow me to keep the tow hook?

Nope and if you keep the crash bar the right side up. You have to cut the tow hook off. I had to on my G coupe. BTW there is NO CARB sticker. Guys get hooked on this all the time. The Carb sticker is "IF" you run their can tune. Yes they have said they fixed their can tunes but I just saw someone one here this month install their kit and make 342 WHP :/ Thats what I made on their canned tune . You'll need a custom tune or you paid 8-9k for 40 WHP . :(

370Zsteve 05-22-2015 02:28 PM

A deal breaker for the Tow-Hook-As-Bling crowd :rofl2:

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3206335)
I didn't flip my crash bar, we cut off the tow hook mount and bolted a tow strap to the plate that was left. I stuck the strap up in the bumper so it doesn't block any cooling. It has a zip tie on on the strap so I can pull it out of the bumper if I need it.


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brucelidat 05-22-2015 02:30 PM

I know I won't technically be carb, but as long as I have the sticker for cops and to pass inspection, I'm good. I might have to get the fast intentions bar them for the tow hook.

370Zsteve 05-22-2015 02:32 PM

I prefer to believe Stillen when they say they have a dedicated tuner working on their tunes now, rather than the opinion of one install which could have been done by a n00b. :tup:


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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3206373)
Nope and if you keep the crash bar the right side up. You have to cut the tow hook off. I had to on my G coupe. BTW there is NO CARB sticker. Guys get hooked on this all the time. The Carb sticker is "IF" you run their can tune. Yes they have said they fixed their can tunes but I just saw someone one here this month install their kit and make 342 WHP :/ Thats what I made on their canned tune . You'll need a custom tune or you paid 8-9k for 40 WHP . :(


370Zsteve 05-22-2015 02:39 PM

To me, the Stillen warranty would be utmost and I would prefer to work with their tune which if I am not mistaken is voided with a different tuner?

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3206376)
I know I won't technically be carb, but as long as I have the sticker for cops and to pass inspection, I'm good. I might have to get the fast intentions bar them for the tow hook.


Chuck33079 05-22-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 3206384)
To me, the Stillen warranty would be utmost and I would prefer to work with their tune which if I am not mistaken is voided with a different tuner?

If you plan on keeping the canned tune, you might as well walk away from the whole project. Search around for guys who have dynoed the stock tune. It's an abortion and unless you plan on the custom tune, you're going to be unhappy. Also, their warranty is questionable given that Stillen kits have killed more motors than turbo setups running 100whp more.

JWillis72 05-22-2015 03:21 PM

The only other option is to have Stillen install it and custom tune it, I believe you can still get the CARB sticker that way.


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brucelidat 05-22-2015 03:29 PM

Won't a Stillen authorized supplier get the kit with the sticker?

JWillis72 05-22-2015 04:11 PM

Truthfully I don't know, I live in a free state. What I was saying is I think you can get a custom tune that is CARB legal.


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Team_STILLEN 05-22-2015 05:31 PM

You and your free state *shakes fist*

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3206461)
Won't a Stillen authorized supplier get the kit with the sticker?

I STILLEN Authorized supplier sending you a complete kit will include the CARB Decal. The only way that is not included is if you purchase a tuner kit. If you want a custom tune then STILLEN is the only place you can take it and keep it CARB Legal.

JWillis72 05-22-2015 05:49 PM

Sorry man, nothing against you Cali car guys but your car and gun laws just suck! Have you guys looked at a higher HP kit yet?


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JWillis72 05-22-2015 08:51 PM

Mark I'm just picking on you about the higher HP kit, I don't get why you take so much crap for your kit only making the power you advertise.


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Team_STILLEN 05-23-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3206750)
Mark I'm just picking on you about the higher HP kit, I don't get why you take so much crap for your kit only making the power you advertise.

Our gun and emission laws do suck. I understand the emissions at least. The smog here gets pretty gnarly as is and without the emissions standards it would be unbearable. Just sucks for the population of tuners :(

We did some testing on it but I have not been updated on any progress at this time.

BlueDemon 05-25-2015 05:45 PM

I know this thread is old but how are all you guys making that much? I made just with kit install, headers and test pipes, 356whp. That is crap if u ask me considering the amount the kit cost. I was on a dyno that is lowest reading dyno but even...I dont know what the issue is. And just of curiousity, stock internals ate good wih 9lb pulley?

EliteXpress 05-25-2015 06:07 PM

I'm running stock internals with 9lb pulley @ 426 WHP. :driving:

JWillis72 05-25-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDemon (Post 3208664)
I know this thread is old but how are all you guys making that much? I made just with kit install, headers and test pipes, 356whp. That is crap if u ask me considering the amount the kit cost. I was on a dyno that is lowest reading dyno but even...I dont know what the issue is. And just of curiousity, stock internals ate good wih 9lb pulley?


Is it on Stillens tune or a custom tune?



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DavidZ370 05-25-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3208683)
Is it on Stillens tune or a custom tune?



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Highly Doubt that its a custom tune

brucelidat 05-25-2015 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDemon (Post 3208664)
I know this thread is old but how are all you guys making that much? I made just with kit install, headers and test pipes, 356whp. That is crap if u ask me considering the amount the kit cost. I was on a dyno that is lowest reading dyno but even...I dont know what the issue is. And just of curiousity, stock internals ate good wih 9lb pulley?

What kind of dyno was this, maybe a mustang? Or are you running the old canned tune?

ANMVQ 05-26-2015 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3208739)
What kind of dyno was this, maybe a mustang? Or are you running the old canned tune?


Well the first mistake is the headers, Second is the TP's, He's probally losing 2-3 PSI of boost, Sitllen themselves say dont run headers and TP's, Stock cats should be on the car and a custom tune is needed.

Team_STILLEN 05-26-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDemon (Post 3208664)
I know this thread is old but how are all you guys making that much? I made just with kit install, headers and test pipes, 356whp. That is crap if u ask me considering the amount the kit cost. I was on a dyno that is lowest reading dyno but even...I dont know what the issue is. And just of curiousity, stock internals ate good wih 9lb pulley?

Definitely sounds like you need a retune. What shop did the install? ANMVQ is right. You are losing power with the test pipes. I would go back to factory cats (you can leave the headers).

Depending on where you got the kit, who did the install, and what is available in your area you might have some options for tuning.

brucelidat 06-07-2015 12:55 PM

I heard ecutek gas cracked vvel. Kits should be able to make more power now than before right if you get an ecutek tune.

Asheth 06-07-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3221556)
I heard ecutek gas cracked vvel. Kits spittle be able to make more power now than before right if you get an ecutek tune.

A supercharged stillen kit has been tuned with Ecutek. I think it's the first one.

https://www.facebook.com/LitchfieldM...48037475226216

http://i.imgur.com/4mh3kAJ.png

brucelidat 06-07-2015 04:31 PM

384 whp? That's kess than the usual non vvel uprev tune

visconti 06-07-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3221646)
384 whp? That's kess than the usual non vvel uprev tune


Their Dyno reads low compared to a dynojet here in the USA.

That car is also running Speed Density!


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brucelidat 06-08-2015 12:44 PM

That's understandable, but it make sit hard for us to compare.

victorofhavoc 06-08-2015 04:24 PM

it also says 350z at the top there...

brucelidat 06-08-2015 04:25 PM

didn't notice that

Asheth 06-08-2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc (Post 3222533)
it also says 350z at the top there...

It's a 370z click the link it has pics

brucelidat 06-17-2015 11:35 AM

So if you want to track the Stillen kit, you need quite a bit of cooling mods like venting the hood, fenders, etc.? Just the Frozen Boost heat exchanger (+transmission and oil coolers obviously) won't be adequate?

TopgunZ 06-17-2015 11:43 AM

It's more your intake temps rather than engine temps. It will heat soak quickly and blow hot air unless your running low boost.

victorofhavoc 06-17-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3231415)
It's more your intake temps rather than engine temps. It will heat soak quickly and blow hot air unless your running low boost.

out of curiosity has anyone tried wrapping the intake pipe on the stillen kit with reflective gold foil? Tends to help a lot on other vehicles...

swiss370Z 06-17-2015 12:19 PM

Unfortunately I do not know who it was ... but it's there!

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...1200px_997.jpg

It's my turn to dress up my pipe in carbon :tup:

I'm expecting an answer ...
Carbon would also offer a thermal sleeve
I will report ....

victorofhavoc 06-17-2015 12:34 PM

nice! I'm guessing that would get excellent results. On my wrx I had gold foil on before I sold it. Golf foil alone on the endtanks of the intercooler reduced temps by around 65 degrees F.

I'm guessing that if it was wrapped in gold foil, the stillen manifold coated in something heat expelling, the compressor wrapped in a blanket like the turbo blankets, and the intakes getting some proper airflow that the temps would be far more under control than they would be in a turbo vehicle. An e85 tune would also help...

TopgunZ 06-17-2015 01:15 PM

Ill be going air to air and e85 next month.

victorofhavoc 06-17-2015 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3231485)
Ill be going air to air and e85 next month.

do you have the smaller pulley or the other compressor wheel people put in? I'm wondering how far the kit can go with stock cats, smaller pulley, the different compressor wheel, and e85. Can't wait to see your results!

ANMVQ 06-17-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc (Post 3231519)
do you have the smaller pulley or the other compressor wheel people put in? I'm wondering how far the kit can go with stock cats, smaller pulley, the different compressor wheel, and e85. Can't wait to see your results!

Maybe 480 WHP @ 13 PSI and E85. I made 457 at 12 PSI on 93 Pump, BUt better have a built motor and some other add ons if you want that much power from it. :/ Stock trim it wont make it safely


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