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gbrettin 07-30-2014 02:02 PM

There needs to be more upgrades for the 7AT. It's been out for a while and I'm surprised there are no upgrades other than GTM's 7 grand stage 4.

1slow370 07-30-2014 04:37 PM

They have the valve body too, and supposedly there is a faster turnaround on it now too.

FPenvy 07-30-2014 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2913928)
They have the valve body too, and supposedly there is a faster turnaround on it now too.

ummmm......we talking about the same GTM that i'm thinking of?

thought they were having some "issues"

1slow370 07-30-2014 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2913930)
ummmm......we talking about the same GTM that i'm thinking of?

thought they were having some "issues"

I was told they are back to short turnaround on the valve bodies something like it goes out within a couple days after they receive it, this was as of a few weeks ago.

FPenvy 07-30-2014 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2914086)
I was told they are back to short turnaround on the valve bodies something like it goes out within a couple days after they receive it, this was as of a few weeks ago.


To be honest, after the horror story of that mhi kit group buy, I highly doubt I would go with Gtm for parts.

1slow370 07-30-2014 08:35 PM

Well for the at's its really the only option right? FI is what a year and half in on theres with no release date set yet right?

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FPenvy 07-31-2014 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2914164)
Well for the at's its really the only option right? FI is what a year and half in on theres with no release date set yet right?

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the fact that they are possibly the only option jsut says a lot for how sad the part market for the 370 is. 6 model years and this is where we are at?

FI does have upgrades coming very soon from what i undersatnd. also knowing the quality of their products i know they wont bring a product to market prior to it being ready. look at their TT kit. took awhile but my is it pretty and the numbers theyve put down says a lot on its own.

we do need more AT upgrades. if there were more options and not a $7k tranny swap then maybe i would have given someone money for a TT kit by now. the sole reason i never went with boost is because for the power i wanted the AT wouldnt handle it without a lot of exrtra money.

i got quoted at one point for a TT kit, tranny upgrades, oil/at coolers, labor for my Z and it was $20k. yea i'll just wait a bit and grab a GTR lol

1slow370 07-31-2014 11:20 AM

Im not saying anything about FI quality its just that as of today their trans upgrades are as real as the MHI kit.

FPenvy 07-31-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2914737)
Im not saying anything about FI quality its just that as of today their trans upgrades are as real as the MHI kit.

oh i know i just like promoting FI is all. they have been good to me and do have a quality product.

also im excited for the AAM TT kit :yum:

i just wish the upgraded tranny wasnt $7k. so much to add to a 10K turbo kit and labor.

1slow370 07-31-2014 11:25 AM

You wish you bought a manual? lol

FPenvy 07-31-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2914745)
You wish you bought a manual? lol

nooooooooooooo the manual in the 370 sucks lol

i made the correct purchase. sadly the people making mods and upgrades havent responded in the last 6 years to give a few choices of upgrades for the 7AT.

probably manual fanboys trolling the AT guys :stirthepot:

:bowrofl:

theDreamer 07-31-2014 11:29 AM

Find junkyard GT-R with fully working transmission.
Spend 7K fitting it to the VQ37 and onto the Z (they make adapter plates to make the trans RWD only now).
Win

FPenvy 07-31-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2914749)
Find junkyard GT-R with fully working transmission.
Spend 7K fitting it to the VQ37 and onto the Z (they make adapter plates to make the trans RWD only now).
Win

wait......without googling some info or feeling a bit of trolling.....


.....is that even possible? i mean a DCT 370Z gives me a bit of wood :ugh2:

I know it isnt but this would be fun mmmmmhmmm

1slow370 07-31-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2914749)
Find junkyard GT-R with fully working transmission.
Spend 7K fitting it to the VQ37 and onto the Z (they make adapter plates to make the trans RWD only now).
Win

completely wrong. the gtr has a trans axle it would need to be mounted at the back of the car and no rwd only parts for it exist, the bell housing pattern is a completely different one, and the only gtr rwd swaps use the 370z manual trans mission with a bell housing adapter because the strongest transmission Nissan has ever made is the 370z 6 speed manual.

You could always 6 speed swap it megan370z did it and it sounds pretty simple so far as manual swaps go.

theDreamer 07-31-2014 11:35 AM

Nissan R35 | South Side Performance Inc | VF-Series Wheels - Video Share - GT-R Life

The question is pairing it to the VQ, which honestly if GM cars can change transmission to almost anything I am sure the VQ can be paired with any trans with some work.

1slow370 07-31-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2914753)
wait......without googling some info or feeling a bit of trolling.....


.....is that even possible? i mean a DCT 370Z gives me a bit of wood :ugh2:

I know it isnt but this would be fun mmmmmhmmm

nope and just get a quiafe dogbox and an air shifter, they make a bolt on setup for only $16k and I promise that is cheaper than the gtr swap. No transmission hits as hard as an air shifted dogbox.

FPenvy 07-31-2014 11:44 AM

oooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrr.................

i just go get a GT-R.

problem solved.

theDreamer 07-31-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2914767)
nope and just get a quiafe dogbox and an air shifter, they make a bolt on setup for only $16k and I promise that is cheaper than the gtr swap. No transmission hits as hard as an air shifted dogbox.

That would be perfect! :yum:

theDreamer 07-31-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2914769)
oooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrr.................

i just go get a GT-R.

problem solved.

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1slow370 07-31-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2914758)
Nissan R35 | South Side Performance Inc | VF-Series Wheels - Video Share - GT-R Life

The question is pairing it to the VQ, which honestly if GM cars can change transmission to almost anything I am sure the VQ can be paired with any trans with some work.

Thats a new one, I never would have thought someone would really just take the front driveshaft off their gtr and call it a rwd swap. Regardless in the Z it is unpossible. you would have to cut up the bottom of the car to fit it, and redesign the rear subframe and axles just to mount it, then you would only be missing all the electronics.

I recommend swapping in a 4l80e at least that might be doable, i think gm got the shift times under an hour towards the end of production.

KaienZ34 07-31-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2489276)
RE7R01A: 400Nm (295lb)
RE7R01B: 600Nm (442lb)

Attempting to find what the modifications are for the revision B, but from all the material I am reading the transmission are the same minus the internals to beef it up for more TQ.

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2489276)
RE7R01A: 400Nm (295lb)
RE7R01B: 600Nm (442lb)

Attempting to find what the modifications are for the revision B, but from all the material I am reading the transmission are the same minus the internals to beef it up for more TQ.

http://www.transakpp.ru/images/akpp/NI_RE7R01A_1.jpg

Nissan/Jatco 7-speed Automatic RE7R01A(G37/370z)/RE7R01B(Patrol/QX56/M56)

The RE7R01A is rated to 295ft lbs, the RE7R01B is rated to 442ft lbs(600nm)

RE7R01A/ JR710E

http://www.transakpp.ru/images/manuals/JR710_comm.jpg

RE7R01A/ JR710E
http://www.transakpp.ru/images/manuals/JR710_shem.jpg

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2489276)


Has anyone tried to get either the internals (of the RE7R01B) that are beefed up or just get the whole tranny out of a wrecked car and put it in the z ?

FPenvy 07-31-2014 12:36 PM

soooooooooo if i blow my tranny *giggity* and replace it with a B tranny that holds 446 lbs/tq i can boost my car to around 500WHP which would be around 400-450 lbs of tq and be safe?

hmmmmmmmmm lol

1slow370 07-31-2014 01:09 PM

OOoooh the MSRP on that guy is only $7334.06 and I would bet it is somewhere between the RE7A and the GTM RE7 which is $6773.94 Website pricing.

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/product...=17732&cat=262

KaienZ34 07-31-2014 01:13 PM

Damn, so I guess you couldn't just swap the internals from the A to the B ? Either new, or a used one from the junkyard or something.

1slow370 07-31-2014 01:15 PM

:shrugs: you could try it but if it goes wrong you'll blow your trans up or wasted all the money on the parts.

1slow370 07-31-2014 01:32 PM

Holy hell I want to buy an M56 some day. It runs a 13.3 1/4 with a 2.661 rear gear. Imagine putting a Z diff in one of those

gbrettin 07-31-2014 04:45 PM

This is just a feeler!

How many of you would be interested in changing your transmission to a 4L80e if I were to be able to make a whole kit? I'd have to tear apart my car for research which would most likely be done over the winter.

This is the kind of power a 4L80e can handle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vsx7PKzTEE

1slow370 07-31-2014 05:00 PM

but the 4l80e shifts when it feels like it and most of the time that is next week, unless you shift kit and tune it and then it hits every gear like your on a dragstrip, even when your going to the 7-11. And don't even think of road coursing it unless you have full manual control over it.

gbrettin 07-31-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2915168)
but the 4l80e shifts when it feels like it and most of the time that is next week, unless you shift kit and tune it and then it hits every gear like your on a dragstrip, even when your going to the 7-11. And don't even think of road coursing it unless you have full manual control over it.

I really am not sure what to think about the conversion. I am open to ALL suggestions. I saw that there was also a 6L80e. I have no measurements yet... So this is all ideas at the moment.

gbrettin 07-31-2014 05:06 PM

I'm just sick of the 7AT being too weak. :\

Tempestz 07-31-2014 05:15 PM

I too am 7AT, and JUST looking at the options (what very few there are) makes my wallet cower in fear… we just need a Trans to hold 450-500lbft. Im sure that would make most 7AT guys happy, as long as its half the price of a GTM trans. hopefully soon, I have the Mod itch…

1slow370 07-31-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 2915172)
I really am not sure what to think about the conversion. I am open to ALL suggestions. I saw that there was also a 6L80e. I have no measurements yet... So this is all ideas at the moment.

the 6l80 is better as far as driveability(with the right controller and tune files), but requires more in the way of electronics to run it since it is newer. basically the 4l80 is an old analog valve and accumulator trans, and the 6l80 is a pwm solenoid style like the re7 so far as electronics go. the 6l80 will not shift as fast and smoothly as the re7 but is going to be more expensive and harder to swap do to electronic reasons.

1slow370 07-31-2014 06:09 PM

what i find really funny is that the stock trans is more than half the price of the gtm transmission(the manual is 1/4 the price of the gtm transmission)

KaienZ34 07-31-2014 06:46 PM

Would the 7AT hold up to 400-500wtq with a trans cooler, tune/line pressure increase, and valve body upgrade?

warpeacelove 07-31-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2915243)
Would the 7AT hold up to 400-500wtq with a trans cooler, tune/line pressure increase, and valve body upgrade?

NO. The Clutch packages will disseminate over time.

nomodsjk 07-31-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 2915153)
This is just a feeler!

How many of you would be interested in changing your transmission to a 4L80e if I were to be able to make a whole kit? I'd have to tear apart my car for research which would most likely be done over the winter.

This is the kind of power a 4L80e can handle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vsx7PKzTEE

Very interested! I have a 7at with 423rwhp and 325tq and am planning to build the top and bottom this winter then come spring I'm removing the Stillen supercharger and going TT
Would love to beef up the tranny. Will definitely have to do something with what I'm planning

1slow370 07-31-2014 08:29 PM

I think most guys with the valvebody/cooler are in the 350-400tq range more than that and you probably need the extra plates in the stage 4

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Tempestz 07-31-2014 09:19 PM

So the consensus is that <400 is reasonably doable? out of the higher gears of course.

FPenvy 08-01-2014 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempestz (Post 2915345)
So the consensus is that <400 is reasonably doable? out of the higher gears of course.

seems like it but thats the part that always turned me off.

why would i mod my car for more power and to be faster......but i cant get on it after 4th gear without spending another $7k? just not worth it in general.

Tempestz 08-01-2014 09:08 AM

Never topped out 4th in Hawaii…
But i know what you mean. If i were to ever get a lower rear gear, i.e. 3.69/3.90/4.08 4th would top out a lot sooner. The only thing I have out here is Autocross. I miss the NorCal Track days. :(


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