Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1904070)

LOL not sure the guy above me is serious or not,

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1904149)

if you're prepared to spend the extra $$ to upgrade the inferior parts that come with the Stillen kit, then go that way. If i had to do it over again, i most certainly would have gone a different route.

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1904176)

What up man! You're still alive! Hows the car treating ya?

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1904070)

LOL not sure the guy above me is serious or not, But WHERE did or WHO told you, You had to over spin the Stillen Sc to make the advertised power, That is a BS statement, Their tune is the issue, My kit out of the box 9-10 PSI made 412 WHP, Advertised power,, Just make sure you have the facts right, GTM is a good kit, Still not sold on the MAF location ( Heard some things from some tuners)- I have seen 1 Stillen boom story and that guys was running headers( Not recommended) and a handful of GTM boom stories,

If it where me, I think a changed my mind from before and would have went the way I did, Stillen, Carb legal and will make good power. Myself and EVOkiller are push these to 500WHP or trying anyway, LOL

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1904182)

Yep! Engine hasn't blown up yet (knock on wood)!! Just savin up for more mods :tup:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1904274)

Yes, that guy was racing someone right after the installation while going to his tuner.

From all your post you are trying to start something all the time. You know nothing about the GTM kit nor had even race or sat in one. Not sure why you're always trying to talk down on it for and you're the only one thats been starting drama between the 2 kits.

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1904135)

WOw man would call Troll if you didnt have more post than me. LOL

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 1904408)

Dude, I'm just making fun of what is sure to come form the two major SC camps 'round these parts, all fun, no harm intended, just trying to pre-lighten the mood! :D

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1904070)

LOL not sure the guy above me is serious or not, But WHERE did or WHO told you, You had to over spin the Stillen Sc to make the advertised power, That is a BS statement, Their tune is the issue, My kit out of the box 9-10 PSI made 412 WHP, Advertised power,, Just make sure you have the facts right, GTM is a good kit, Still not sold on the MAF location ( Heard some things from some tuners)- I have seen 1 Stillen boom story and that guys was running headers( Not recommended) and a handful of GTM boom stories,

If it where me, I think a changed my mind from before and would have went the way I did, Stillen, Carb legal and will make good power. Myself and EVOkiller are push these to 500WHP or trying anyway, LOL

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1904149)

if you're prepared to spend the extra $$ to upgrade the inferior parts that come with the Stillen kit, then go that way. If i had to do it over again, i most certainly would have gone a different route.

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1904406)

Come one man how long we been on here, Go back and find some of my old post, Where I said "IF" GTM was card legal and my dealer would have honored my warranty I would have went GTM.. I have talk to same a handful of times and was always helpful.. Never starting any drama, But the IS another choice other than GTM, Each person to their own.

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1904478)

Really wouldnt say inferior, But maybe not the best choices, The heat exchanger is small, and some think the intake design on the Stillen kit is poor( MAF) location, I'm still up in the air on that one I will know more when I get my car back and retune it for my upgrades.

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 1904428)

can you please explain?
by inferior parts you mean like intercooler and such or something more major?

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1904700)

Well, since owning my kit, i've had to replace two of the pulleys that came with the kit due to failure. I've also had to upgrade the bypass valve as the small plastic one that comes with the kit isn't adequate for proper tuning and performance. Had to modify the reciruculation tube so that it could handle the proper amount of return. I had to upgrade the jackshaft and super charger pulley to cogged pulleys in order to avoid belt slip. I've also been told by my local performance shop (that has worked with these kits) that the intercooler will not disapate heat properly if you're using more than 12psi. Customizing a front mount intercooler for this kit will be a big undertaking IMO. I've heard of others having to upgrade maf's, and some have even gotten bigger injectors than what the kit comes with. And of course, others have also upgraded the impeller on the actual blower in order to increase low end torque. Oh and, speaking of torque, IMO, that is where this kit lacks. I'm getting 308WTQ on a mustang dyno. While you're reading about other kits, take note of the torque numbers.

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 1904727)

I don't have either one, but I read a lot about both of them. I honestly haven't heard too many good things about the Stillen SC. People have a lot of problems with them, the tune they give you is absolute crap, and they don't make much power. Stillen's product quality and customer service have started lacking severely for the 370Z, whereas GTM has done nothing but improve and continue to please people. If I were to consider a SC I would be looking at GTM before anything else. Just my :twocents:


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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 1904766)

well now im leaning towards the GTM kit now
I am not worried about the intercooler not dissipating heat because im only going to run 9-10psi but the other problems you mentioned are worrying me

aside from the belts slipping and the recirculation tube needing to be modified, what other problems have you run into with the stillen kit?


I have heard from a lot of people, online and in person that the stillen kit has problems and usually i would just go gtm but because i live in california and smog checks here are brutal, and id rather not pay for fake smogs and such

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 1904766)

well now im leaning towards the GTM kit now
I am not worried about the intercooler not dissipating heat because im only going to run 9-10psi but the other problems you mentioned are worrying me

aside from the belts slipping and the recirculation tube needing to be modified, what other problems have you run into with the stillen kit?

Originally Posted by AMNVQ

LOL not sure the guy above me is serious or not, But WHERE did or WHO told you, You had to over spin the Stillen Sc to make the advertised power, That is a BS statement, Their tune is the issue, My kit out of the box 9-10 PSI made 412 WHP, Advertised power,, Just make sure you have the facts right, GTM is a good kit, Still not sold on the MAF location ( Heard some things from some tuners)- I have seen 1 Stillen boom story and that guys was running headers( Not recommended) and a handful of GTM boom stories,

If it where me, I think a changed my mind from before and would have went the way I did, Stillen, Carb legal and will make good power. Myself and EVOkiller are push these to 500WHP or trying anyway, LOL

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1904070)

... My kit out of the box 9-10 PSI made 412 WHP, Advertised power...

Originally Posted by AMNVQ

BTW the Stillen kit out of the box made sh$t.. 352 WHP and 270 WHTQ.. NO WAY it was 515HP out of the box .. Remember I have a 7spd auto.

Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1904133)

Come on man, Those are "REAL" My numbers are on a mustang, :tiphat:

At least to me dynojets are inflated number, Just IMO

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1904775)

You still got plenty of yrs to play before your car is due for your first smog. Why worried about it now? Mines is due very soon and I'm not even worried about it.

Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 1905317)

The bigger hassle is getting pulled over and the cop deciding to say pop the hood. He writes up a ref ticket on modified emissions. Then you have to come out of pocket for $500+ to pay the fine instead of removing the kit and hope to not get pulled over again.

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 1905076)

You have completely lost any credibility here because you are willing to do anything and say anything to support your point. You are willing to make things up and lie to mislead people with your statements...especially when it comes to people that are looking for unbiased opinions. Your view is so skewed and far removed from reality it is frightening.

Here's an example:

Your statement today:



Your statement 6 months ago:



from this thread you started: http://www.the370z.com/stillen/50968...ml#post1587956

Here's your dyno graph before the tune and here's your dyno graph after the tune and this is from your own posting:


Keep in mind that you are always on a load bearing dyno which can have too many variables and allows the operator to make the numbers higher or lower at a whim. You have lost your mind so much that you have stated that a Dynojet number is inflated numbers. Keep in mind that the Dynojet is the industry standard dyno since you can't mess with the numbers and the car will read the same Dynojet to Dynojet. They are 100% consistent every time.



Then you stoop to a new low by making stuff up and stating that there are multiple blown engines on our GTM Supercharger kit. Please enlighten me and list and backup your statement.

The only failure I am aware of is the one in Saudi Arabia when it was 140 degree weather while he was racing an AMG C63 in the desert at over 180kph...before he had gone through the verification and data logging process or dyno testing to ensure the AFR was spot on. Besides, if you are planning on going 180kph in 50 degree celsius engine, a stock engine simply cannot take it. Furthermore, this guy is so dissatisfied with our kit that he is buying our GTM 4.2L Stroker Long Block, GTM Stage 4 Transmission, GTM Stage 3 Supercharger Upgrade, GTM Return Fuel System, and our GTM Direct Port Water/Methanol Injection system.

In closing, I really don't enjoy doing this to you or anyone for that matter. You have called me for advice, I have tried to help you over the phone with some input even though you are not our customer. You just leave me with no choice.

To the OP, I'm sorry to ruin your thread. There is some good information on here that will help you make a good decision. Here are some dyno graphs of both the Stillen Kit and our GTM Kit on the same car on the same dyno. What you will notice is that our kit is superior in all aspects straight out of the box. The dyno graphs below speak volumes.


Sam

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 1905368)

BOOM. :owned:

#FUCKYEAHGTM


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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 1905317)

The bigger hassle is getting pulled over and the cop deciding to say pop the hood. He writes up a ref ticket on modified emissions. Then you have to come out of pocket for $500+ to pay the fine instead of removing the kit and hope to not get pulled over again.