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MMC Racing 06-20-2012 11:06 PM

GTM - I beg you....
 
Please finish up the supercharger CARB cert. I pick up my new 370z on Friday and after a break in period, I want to go with your product. I'd prefer to have that magic little "sticker" somewhere on there :icon17:

future370zzz 06-20-2012 11:56 PM

I agree. California emissions suck!

Lug 06-21-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by future370zzz (Post 1782844)
I agree. California emissions suck!

Now hold on. "Emissions" usually blow, not suck, even in California.

weiboy718 06-21-2012 02:35 PM

+1

I emailed Sam about that with no response. He probably missed my email again.

Winters 06-22-2012 08:52 AM

Not sure how much they care about the CARB certificate. When I asked Mike at GTM about their twin turbo package passing the CA emissions sniffer test he wrote back:

If you are concerned about that sort of thing, then TT is probably not the best option for you.

fxroar 06-22-2012 09:29 AM

I contacted GTM a week ago in regards of the CARB kit and I was informed that their car does not have enough miles on it to complete the CARB certification.

So I guess more people should test drive their SC car no? lol :driving:

MMC Racing 06-22-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Winters (Post 1785185)
Not sure how much they care about the CARB certificate. When I asked Mike at GTM about their twin turbo package passing the CA emissions sniffer test he wrote back:

If you are concerned about that sort of thing, then TT is probably not the best option for you.

Yes, the best option should be a CARB certified supercharger kit, which they have been saying they would have for 2 years is it now?

The point of this thread is to demonstrate there is demand so they can prioritize it correctly.

MMC Racing 06-22-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fxroar (Post 1785288)
I contacted GTM a week ago in regards of the CARB kit and I was informed that their car does not have enough miles on it to complete the CARB certification.

I was told the same thing. I'm sure if they strike a discount deal with a customer, they could have a car to get final approval against..

MMC Racing 07-23-2012 01:22 PM

Bump for update from GTM. They must have missed this thread the first time.

MMC Racing 08-15-2012 07:45 AM

Still looking for updates..

ANMVQ 08-15-2012 07:53 AM

I think they will not ever get the CERT, Guys have been asking for it for a some time on here, They are selling kits with out why would they spend the $$ it. They sell enough with out it.. LOL

theDreamer 08-15-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 1869462)
I think they will not ever get the CERT, Guys have been asking for it for a some time on here, They are selling kits with out why would they spend the $$ it. They sell enough with out it.. LOL

They are working on it, but CARB is very strict and any little change you modify on the design has to be re-approved. Not sure why they have not gotten yet, only GTM knows, but I am sure there is a reason.

MMC Racing 08-15-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1869469)
They are working on it, but CARB is very strict and any little change you modify on the design has to be re-approved. Not sure why they have not gotten yet, only GTM knows, but I am sure there is a reason.

They "worked" on it. They don't seem to be "working" on it.

Nixlimited 08-15-2012 12:00 PM

Have you tried calling and asking?

SAM@GTM 08-15-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1870051)
Have you tried calling and asking?

We've already given him the answer along with everyone that e-mails us and asks about it.

Our shop Z with the supercharger kit for CARB testing does not have enough miles on it for certification. That is the reason why they did not pass the car. They could have told us before we paid $5k for the testing but they were happy to take our money and tell us after the fact. So, once we put the proper mileage on it, we'll be back at it. You gotta love the process.

SAM@GTM 08-15-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 1869486)
They "worked" on it. They don't seem to be "working" on it.

Whether you think we're working on it or not is on you. You do know what assumptions are right?

Sam

Scribe 08-15-2012 03:35 PM

Dear MMC Racing,

Please stop pestering GTM. If you want a CARB certified supercharger kit and cannot wait, please go ahead and build one yourself. The guys at GTM are putting out new and innovative products left and right and are well respected on this forum for the hard work they put into their products. A lot of work and money goes into these kits. Repeatedly pestering these guys publicly is likely not appreciated. A reminder that you are still interested from time to time via PM or phone call would probably suffice.

God forbid you have to wait to get the exact product you want delivered soon after you get your 370Z. I bought my 370Z the day they went on sale in the US and am still waiting patiently for the right forced induction application to be offered (GTM is developing the kit right now).

Do yourself a favor if you can't wait and get an exhaust, get UpRev, or get wheels; if you can't stop nagging GTM, get bent.

Your Friend,

Scribe

Now, hows about we all hug and get along and for the love of all that is holy, lock this thread?

DCNISMO 08-15-2012 04:50 PM

Move out of Cali......problem solved. No need for CARB stickers back east here.
Soon as I complete my house re-finiance.....I'm going Stage 1.5......

djtodd 08-15-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 1870534)
Dear MMC Racing,

Please stop pestering GTM. If you want a CARB certified supercharger kit and cannot wait, please go ahead and build one yourself. The guys at GTM are putting out new and innovative products left and right and are well respected on this forum for the hard work they put into their products. A lot of work and money goes into these kits. Repeatedly pestering these guys publicly is likely not appreciated. A reminder that you are still interested from time to time via PM or phone call would probably suffice.

God forbid you have to wait to get the exact product you want delivered soon after you get your 370Z. I bought my 370Z the day they went on sale in the US and am still waiting patiently for the right forced induction application to be offered (GTM is developing the kit right now).

Do yourself a favor if you can't wait and get an exhaust, get UpRev, or get wheels; if you can't stop nagging GTM, get bent.

Your Friend,

Scribe

Now, hows about we all hug and get along and for the love of all that is holy, lock this thread?

Word. Very tired of all this back and forth.

MMC Racing 08-15-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 1870163)
Whether you think we're working on it or not is on you. You do know what assumptions are right?

Sam

This is a perfect opportunity for you to spell it out then. What is your plan, including timetable, to deliver a CARB certified kit?

Reality 08-16-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 1871087)
This is a perfect opportunity for you to spell it out then. What is your plan, including timetable, to deliver a CARB certified kit?

LoL!.. wasted breath man.

W.O.W. 370Z 08-16-2012 09:10 AM

Give it a rest Mark!

MMC Racing 08-16-2012 09:28 AM

I don't see how I'm being unreasonable here. The kit is 2 years overdue. A status of we will try again when the shop car hits 5000 miles provides no value. Sam may put 100 miles a year on the shop car.

All I want to see is "based on the current mileage and the miles we expect to put on the car and factoring in our other priorities, we expect to be ready to try again between Jan and March of 2013"..

I don't see what is so hard about this. I want to buy this kit, but it is vaporware right now.

Mr&Mrs 08-16-2012 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 1871637)
I don't see how I'm being unreasonable here. The kit is 2 years overdue. A status of we will try again when the shop car hits 5000 miles provides no value. Sam may put 100 miles a year on the shop car.

All I want to see is "based on the current mileage and the miles we expect to put on the car and factoring in our other priorities, we expect to be ready to try again between Jan and March of 2013"..

I don't see what is so hard about this. I want to buy this kit, but it is vaporware right now.

Then what happens when they do not fall into the "window" they provide do you cry more? It isnt like it is your car at the shop they are getting the CARB approval with, then I would agree with you. If the Z isnt fast enough for you trade it in for something that is faster from the factory.

For the price of the Z plus FI there are a lot of nice cars in that price range. They are CARB approved off the lot! :tup:

ANMVQ 08-16-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 1871637)
I don't see how I'm being unreasonable here. The kit is 2 years overdue. A status of we will try again when the shop car hits 5000 miles provides no value. Sam may put 100 miles a year on the shop car.

All I want to see is "based on the current mileage and the miles we expect to put on the car and factoring in our other priorities, we expect to be ready to try again between Jan and March of 2013"..

I don't see what is so hard about this. I want to buy this kit, but it is vaporware right now.


Why not Stillen? Here WEGO!!:happydance:

Scribe 08-16-2012 11:31 AM

Ok, since my last post didn't do the trick I'll give it another shot.

Dear MMC Racing,

Please go ahead and purchase the supercharger kit. If you need to pass smog, just disconnect the belt, or put it back to stock, or whatever it takes. As of right now, that's the current price of admission to playing the "supercharged 370Z in California" game.

Your Friend,

Scribe

Can a brother get a lock up in this biatch?

Isamu 08-21-2012 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scribe (Post 1871922)
Ok, since my last post didn't do the trick I'll give it another shot.

Dear MMC Racing,

Please go ahead and purchase the supercharger kit. If you need to pass smog, just disconnect the belt, or put it back to stock, or whatever it takes. As of right now, that's the current price of admission to playing the "supercharged 370Z in California" game.

Your Friend,

Scribe

Can a brother get a lock up in this biatch?

:iagree: very well put friend!

MMC Racing 08-21-2012 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1879261)
:iagree: very well put friend!

Thanks for the bump.. :tiphat:

wstar 08-21-2012 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 1870655)
Move out of Cali......problem solved

Moving out of Cali solves all kinds of problems, it's a win-win-win-win-... proposition.

Nixlimited 08-21-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1879371)
Moving out of Cali solves all kinds of problems, it's a win-win-win-win-... proposition.

Yeah, except for leaving a place where it makes sense to have a sports car year round, and having access to some of the most amazing natural driving areas in the U.S. That being said, I do miss my MSR Houston membership and easy track access...

wstar 08-21-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1879434)
Yeah, except for leaving a place where it makes sense to have a sports car year round, and having access to some of the most amazing natural driving areas in the U.S. That being said, I do miss my MSR Houston membership and easy track access...

We have some OK highway stuff too, just not as frequently. I'm a big fan of the stretch of I-10 between about Kerrville and Fort Stockton :)

Isamu 08-21-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1879559)
We have some OK highway stuff too, just not as frequently. I'm a big fan of the stretch of I-10 between about Kerrville and Fort Stockton :)

kill the hippies and make Cali one big race track? :bowrofl:

Nixlimited 08-21-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1879559)
We have some OK highway stuff too, just not as frequently. I'm a big fan of the stretch of I-10 between about Kerrville and Fort Stockton :)

Yeah, up in the hill country there are some nice roads. But still, being able to just roll out to MSR on any weekend was almost enough to keep me in Houston. Fortunately, my brother is still there, still a member, and has a E92 M3 for play.

1slow370 08-24-2012 02:19 AM

coughsoutheastcough the appys have some amazing roads

Srenity 08-24-2012 11:27 PM

Did you know that 1 out every 8 person in the entire US live in CA? Logic would suggest that at least 1 out 8 370Z's are in CA too. Probably more due to car culture and weather. Now many in CA do not care about CARB and find ways to skirt the system but a lot of people including my self would be way more likely to go FI if it was CARB Certified. Now I understand CARB certification is a PITA and the car does not have enough miles but being a business man and nowing the potential ROI of getting the CERT I would be paying someone to just drive the piss out of the car until it had the miles neccessary to get the Cert. As good as GTM is at engineering and product development sometimes they are missing the big picture. This is one of those cases. Saying that not enough miles on a car and having to pay $5K for the testing is preventing you from adding 1/8th to your potential market is crazy.

RCZ 08-26-2012 03:09 PM

LOL, told ya'll so, like a year ago.

samec 08-26-2012 03:49 PM

Interesting they would do that. every lab i have seen offers mileage accumulation service for CARB/USO/FTP drive cycles..
Automotive Testing and Development Services, Inc.

wstar 08-26-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Srenity (Post 1885888)
Did you know that 1 out every 8 person in the entire US live in CA? Logic would suggest that at least 1 out 8 370Z's are in CA too.

That means about 7/8ths of us don't have CARB to worry about :)

Reality 08-28-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Srenity (Post 1885888)
Did you know that 1 out every 8 person in the entire US live in CA? Logic would suggest that at least 1 out 8 370Z's are in CA too. Probably more due to car culture and weather. Now many in CA do not care about CARB and find ways to skirt the system but a lot of people including my self would be way more likely to go FI if it was CARB Certified. Now I understand CARB certification is a PITA and the car does not have enough miles but being a business man and nowing the potential ROI of getting the CERT I would be paying someone to just drive the piss out of the car until it had the miles neccessary to get the Cert. As good as GTM is at engineering and product development sometimes they are missing the big picture. This is one of those cases. Saying that not enough miles on a car and having to pay $5K for the testing is preventing you from adding 1/8th to your potential market is crazy.

Smoke and Mirrors..
Same old story from the 350z forum..

Reality 08-28-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 1887402)
LOL, told ya'll so, like a year ago.

LoL!
There were many of us who knew this was going to happen.. History tends to repeat itself..

LoL


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