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O&G 04-05-2012 10:36 AM

my baseline on a Mustang was 260 whp 207wtq....lol, dynos are tools. Calibration, location, atmospheric conditions, position of the sun, gear the car is run in, blah blah blah the variables are endless.

Dzel 04-05-2012 10:40 AM

:iagree:

Speedy 04-05-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1641750)
my baseline on a Mustang was 260 whp 207wtq....lol, dynos are tools. Calibration, location, atmospheric conditions, position of the sun, gear the car is run in, blah blah blah the variables are endless.

Exactly. Crack me up to see people dyno race.

Before and after on the same dyno is about the best you can do to know what your mods gave you, no more no less.

Run it at the 1/4 mile if you wanna know how much power it really makes.

esfourteen 04-05-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1641803)
Exactly. Crack me up to see people dyno race.

Before and after on the same dyno is about the best you can do to know what your mods gave you, no more no less.

Run it at the 1/4 mile if you wanna know how much power it really makes.

Thats all correct, but the point was you shouldn't assume that a mustang will always read lower than a dynojet as some are suggesting. While not as common, they can in fact read just as high if not higher.

SharpByCoop 04-05-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1641803)
Exactly. Crack me up to see people dyno race.

Before and after on the same dyno is about the best you can do to know what your mods gave you, no more no less.

Run it at the 1/4 mile if you wanna know how much power it really makes.

Correct on the dyno assumptioins, yet, dynos are MUCH more consistent than a 1/4 mile drag pass. That's why they are so often used AND compared. Not perfect, though. Agreed.

I was underwhelmed at the "Outstanding bang for the buck" statement at 'just' 380whp. $9,000 for @ 80whp?

That said, I know how quickly the value can increase. It is proportional to the boost PSI .... :tup:

Coop

blackonorange 04-05-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SharpByCoop (Post 1642071)
Correct on the dyno assumptioins, yet, dynos are MUCH more consistent than a 1/4 mile drag pass. That's why they are so often used AND compared. Not perfect, though. Agreed.

I was underwhelmed at the "Outstanding bang for the buck" statement at 'just' 380whp. $9,000 for @ 80whp?

That said, I know how quickly the value can increase. It is proportional to the boost PSI .... :tup:

Coop

380 whp was on the the Dyno jet off the base tune STs gave me , then I took the car home and got it customed tuned on a mustang Dyno at a different shop and it made like 380 and a bit and 320 ish tourque this mustang Dyno is know to read lower then the dynojet in town he figures I'm around 410 and 340 on the Dyno jet, so yes I stand by my statement in best bang or your buck , Idk where your getting 80 hp gain from, even from the base tune Imade over 100 whp gain :s

Mr.Squeeze 04-05-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1636143)
If you say so. I've never seen one read higher...ever.


The thing with mustang dyno's is it depends on how the operator calibrates the dyno. I know of two in the North East that read high.

Dyno Jet's are different there calibrated from the factory.

Speedy 04-05-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SharpByCoop (Post 1642071)
Correct on the dyno assumptioins, yet, dynos are MUCH more consistent than a 1/4 mile drag pass. That's why they are so often used AND compared. Not perfect, though. Agreed.

Coop

There's just too much manipulation that can go on with a dyno.

1/4 mile trap speed will tell the tale where power is concerned. Doesn't matter if you spin off the line or whatever, the MPH will still be right in the ball park.

With street tires my Challenger spins like mad and I have to avoid boost until 3rd gear. I'll run 12s at 123-125MPH.

With drag radials I get traction and get in to the boost right out of the gate. My ETs drop to mid 11s, but MPH is still 123-125.

Mr.Squeeze 04-05-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1642093)
380 whp was on the the Dyno jet off the base tune STs gave me , then I took the car home and got it customed tuned on a mustang Dyno at a different shop and it made like 380 and a bit and 320 ish tourque this mustang Dyno is know to read lower then the dynojet in town he figures I'm around 410 and 340 on the Dyno jet, so yes I stand by my statement in best bang or your buck , Idk where your getting 80 hp gain from, even from the base tune Imade over 100 whp gain :s


Your happy with your results thats what matter's most.When you get use to the power ,and you will then turn it up with a boost controller.

blackonorange 04-05-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1642171)
Your happy with your results thats what matter's most.When you get use to the power ,and you will then turn it up with a boost controller.

Haha maybe, I gotta get a clutch first

Mr.Squeeze 04-05-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1642183)
Haha maybe, I gotta get a clutch first

Yeah lol I here you my stock clutch didnt like boost either.

Dembflyr 04-05-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1642352)
Yeah lol I here you my stock clutch didnt like boost either.

I consider myself pretty lucky as my stock clutch is holding up just fine for where my power is right now. Any more though and it wouldn't last long.

Blackonorange, glad your car is running better and welcome to the boosted club. :tup:

blackonorange 04-05-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dembflyr (Post 1642613)
I consider myself pretty lucky as my stock clutch is holding up just fine for where my power is right now. Any more though and it wouldn't last long.

Blackonorange, glad your car is running better and welcome to the boosted club. :tup:

Thanks man, yea my car pretty much lights my clutch on fire in 3rd

Mr.Squeeze 04-05-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dembflyr (Post 1642613)
I consider myself pretty lucky as my stock clutch is holding up just fine for where my power is right now. Any more though and it wouldn't last long.

Blackonorange, glad your car is running better and welcome to the boosted club. :tup:

Yes your lucky my stock clutch was slipping at high rpms when I was racing . My car only had 3500 miles at the time I could get only 2-3 good runs before it got hot and would slip .

blackonorange 04-07-2012 02:02 PM

welp i went to the dark side and bought some test pipes so hose of you that were worried about the cats going through the turbo can rest easy now:driving:


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