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esfourteen 03-14-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1599305)
Not form experience, but I would think an SC setup would be decent with a 7AT. I am curious about the pulleys now. I like the idea of reducing rotational mass. The purpose of underdriving the accessories it keep them from overloading? Never had a pulley before..................don't slam me, please!

reducing rotational mass in the drivetrain frees up power, your engine doesn't make more power but the end result is more power is transferred to the wheels.

The major issue with the pulleys is that they are aluminum and our crank is steel, they are basically welding themselves together via galvanic corrosion over time.

roplusbee 03-14-2012 03:22 PM

Thanks

Reality 03-14-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 1599431)
reducing rotational mass in the drivetrain frees up power, your engine doesn't make more power but the end result is more power is transferred to the wheels.

The major issue with the pulleys is that they are aluminum and our crank is steel, they are basically welding themselves together via galvanic corrosion over time.

I would say that it results in the power getting to the ground "easier". I did not make any legitimate power.
I did 3 back-to-back baselines, Installed Pulleys and Made 3 more runs... No real life gains.
Same dyno, same day (within a few hours).

I totally agree with the crank pulleys fusing.. I know of this happening to 2 local z owners who were both boosted.

A note for FI z owners, would be to read up on harmonic dampeners when considering crank pulley replacement...
-Or engine go boom!

Mike@GTM 03-14-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reality (Post 1599644)
I would say that it results in the power getting to the ground "easier". I did not make any legitimate power.
I did 3 back-to-back baselines, Installed Pulleys and Made 3 more runs... No real life gains.
Same dyno, same day (within a few hours).

I totally agree with the crank pulleys fusing.. I know of this happening to 2 local z owners who were both boosted.

A note for FI z owners, would be to read up on harmonic dampeners when considering crank pulley replacement...
-Or engine go boom!


That's what we've been saying as well. We even have a video of us removing a fused crank pulley in our Stage 2 Supercharger Press Release thread and have touched on the issues that have resulted from harmonics. We've seen the catastrophic results of running an aftermarket lightweight pulley.

Also, while reduction in rotational inertia does help improve engine response, there are other factors to consider as well...like how long you want your engine to last.

roplusbee 03-14-2012 08:20 PM

Yup..........I will pass. Just curious about it..........

LafitteZ 03-15-2012 07:19 AM

Of all the pulleys sold and of all the cars with the under drive there are only a handful of cars with a problem and even less with catastrophic problem. I have 2 cars with them one for 6 years supercharged and now my turbo 370 for 2 years no problems. We have 150 members in the Louisiana z n g community and not one of us has had 1 problem with the pulleys and we've been using them for years and not just on zs. I'm sure most mods we can find someone with a nasty problem I mean look the autos are melting the trannys but not everyone it's happening to. It's the nature of the beast there's always going to be problems with something and compared to how many cars have the underdrive compared to how many have problems is veryyyyy low.

LafitteZ 03-15-2012 07:20 AM

Lets not eat peanuts because 1 out of 100000 are allergic. I mean same difference.

Nixlimited 03-15-2012 10:24 AM

The point is: for the very nominal gains, if any, why take the risk?

shaun66 03-15-2012 12:39 PM

Watch the video it really makes you :icon14: like why am i doing this to my motor!

LafitteZ 03-15-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun66 (Post 1601275)
Watch the video it really makes you :icon14: like why am i doing this to my motor!

Yea I understand mabe im just a risk taker. Iv seen many engines blow to bits from FI. We still do it on the quest for more power and more speed. Im willing to take the risk then again iv had no bad experience with them.

Speedy 03-15-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun66 (Post 1601275)
Watch the video it really makes you :icon14: like why am i doing this to my motor!

I must be dense. What video?

Speedy 03-15-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LafitteZ (Post 1583864)
All you 7at guys if y'all had a choice would y'all buy the auto again? I'm thinking about buying a g37 for the ol lady and I'll prolly boost it off the lot.

7AT NO DOUBT! I just ran a 13.080 in the 1/4 bone stock with crappy track prep on the stock tires and everything. Best MPH was 108. Are there 6mts beating those times bone stock?

LafitteZ 03-18-2012 11:20 PM

thats a damn good time speedy. the 7ats are wooping some *** in this new platform

Ron 03-19-2012 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1602318)
I must be dense. What video?

This is the post, videos at the bottom.


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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 1308524)
....

UNDERDRIVE PULLEY is a bad idea all the way around for few reasons :

- Despite what anyone says about this engine being internally balance and removing the harmonic balancer does not have any effect on this engine is totally false. So by removing the harmonic balancer (witch is made from two part metal and rubber in the middle bonding them together for the sole purpose of absorbing engine harmonics and vibrations ) you are destroying your engine .

- Further more by installing the lighter aluminum pulley, keep in mind that aluminum is softer then harden steel (crankshaft) you are also taking a chance of either killing your crankshaft or being unable to ever remove the underdrive pulley since with time it will weld it self to the crank. and here is exactly what happened in this case, So we had to remove the whole front end, radiator support, a/c condenser so we can put a big enough air gun to brake loos the bolt and still had hell of time to do so .

Also I'm quoting the same info from the web





Z eliminator 03-19-2012 07:43 AM

7 AT 12.42 @114.3

all motor.

best 6 MT 12.29. 114.7 all motor.

Same mods.


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