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edub370 01-29-2012 02:18 PM

ok.... let me help everyone out with this lag issue we cant seem to get around. i have ridden in towers car a few times and there so sooooooo little lag. it seems like everyone keeps overlooking the fact that denser air moves quicker thru ic piping. remote mount turbo systems provide the coolest charge of any turbo system on the market. thus, the denser charge, negates the longer piping distance. not to mention the fact that our engines already run decent compression as it is (11:1), which overcomes the feeling of "lag" like u would get in your traditional turbo setup. it not instant like a bmw 135, but it definately doesnt lag like a single turbo supra.

plus is anyone gonna say "well true my car is fast as hell with 450hp, but i just wish i had a tt setup so it could make the same power 100rpm's quicker..."

roplusbee 01-29-2012 02:32 PM

Nice one. I am sure that the piping size has a lot to do with the success of STS's product. I would like to actually ride in an STS turbo'd car. I think the exhaust sounds wierd, but that is irrelevant. Again.....nice post!

tower74 01-29-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 1515044)
Nice one. I am sure that the piping size has a lot to do with the success of STS's product. I would like to actually ride in an STS turbo'd car. I think the exhaust sounds wierd, but that is irrelevant. Again.....nice post!

I've rode in other turbo cars. That's why I wave the STS flag. This sytem isn't the run of the mill system. Some true innovation has gone into this system. The car in real life sounds exotic and not so much like a muscle car. The power from the single isn't what you would expect. One ride and it'll change the minds of many people.

Carbon_z 01-29-2012 03:47 PM

what do you think cost on this bad boy will be?

Ron 01-29-2012 03:56 PM

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STS Base Tuner Turbo System: 5,995
620 CHP Capable Turbo
Your Choice of Turbine Housings
38mm Turbosmart Wastegate
Dual 52mm Turbosmart Race Port Blowoff Valves
Large Front Mount Intercooler
Ceramic Coated Pipes
New Windshield Wiper Tank & Filler Neck
Full Cat-Back Exhaust
Dual Wall Stainless Steel Exhaust Tips
Wiring Harness
STS Oiling System
STS PCV System

STS Tuning Package: 1,300
Uprev Standard Cable (reads/writes tunes & data logs)(If you already have an Uprev cable subtract $500)
Deatsch Werks 660cc Injectors
TRE Fuel Pump
CJ’s Motorsports Pump Installation Kit
STS Base Tune

Stainless Steel Resonator Upgrade: 295

$7295 for a turn key kit.. GTM's Stage 1 is $7495.00. You would think price on the STS would be a lot lower since you are paying for just 1, non ball bearing turbo instead of 2 garret ball bearing ones.. maybe is bc the amount of piping on the STS?

Ron 01-29-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1515172)
That's why there is vendor pricing. Gtm price doesn't include tax and shipping. STS kit has better pricing than that. Upgrades and shipped for 1k less.

No taxes if bought out of state.. STS, or any other vendor would need to charge taxes for their products for buyers within the same state. Did the OP mentioned shipping was included? Sorry if I missed it.

I also got "better than that" pricing from GTM and a few upgrades when I got my kit

pyrrhus17 01-29-2012 04:10 PM

Two questions guys .Any issues with the oem cat burning up ( really not trying to stir the pot) should you go with a test pipe? again just to clarify. Also with the kit do you need any tranny clutch upgrades ? Thanks

Ron 01-29-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pyrrhus17 (Post 1515183)
Two questions guys .Any issues with the oem cat burning up ( really not trying to stir the pot) should you go with a test pipe? again just to clarify. Also with the kit do you need any tranny clutch upgrades ? Thanks

OEM cats (or any cats) can fail. If they do, it will cause debris to be thrown to the turbo which can cause damage to the turbine wheel. Test pipes are def. recommenced for safety and reliability reasons. Depending on the power level you will need an upgraded clutch. No upgraded tranny if you're shooting for sub 600rwhp, and maybe not even then.. we don't yet know the limits of the stock 6MT. If you have a 7AT then that's a different story. What are your goals?

blackonorange 01-29-2012 04:52 PM

I paid 7200 Canadian , shipped with upgraded ball bearing turbo and 3 gauges/modules ..... That's cheap, install is quoted at 1300 $ installed and tuned its a crazy deal and the best bang for 500 whp

mikey1600 01-29-2012 05:26 PM

are there any changes required for RHD vehicle?

tower74 01-29-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 1515322)
are there any changes required for RHD vehicle?

Honestly, I don't think what side you drive from will be an issue. The system isn't like your standard slap in the front and call it a day or a drain on the pocket book system that only gives you 512hp for the stage one system. Hey do some research but you won't find a better system for the money.

The system does take mechanical background to install the full tuner kit. Look at the numbers for a stage 1 twin and compare it to the single application. You are getting only 25hp for more money.

mikey1600 01-29-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 1515357)
Honestly, I don't think what side you drive from will be an issue. The system isn't like your standard slap in the front and call it a day or a drain on the pocket book system that only gives you 402hp for the stage one system. Hey do some research but you won't find a better system for the money.

The system does take mechanical background to install the full tuner kit. Look at the numbers for a stage 1 twin and compare it to the single application. You are getting almost 60+hp for less money.

yeah, I just know for the TT kits there are changes needed for RHD, due to steering rack etc. being on other side of the car, from the looks of it, there shouldn't be any changes underneath the car (I've installed a CBE and high flow cats myself), but unsure up the front and for the intakes. Hopefully STS can chime in :)

tower74 01-29-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody (Post 1515332)
No, the problem is the turbo getting to much or to little oil and relying on a oil-pump to get oil back to the engine. Many have problems with getting oil in the intake pipes and exhuast.

1. How old are their systems?
2. Did they actually drive the vechile correctly and/or allow everything to cool off after running the hell out of the turbo?
This could also be due to the installer, the driver, lack of maintenance and not the system. This isn't about what if or it may happen. I've had ZERO problems.
Your reply was kind of vague...nothing about how the system was treated. People will say until they die that it wasn't their fault it failed and they did everything to keep the system in working order.In some cases, like 98's, it wasn't their fault and the system had a flaw. It happens even with GTM,Stillen,etc... No wants to admit fault and they think the system should last forever since they paid money for said system. No system is not without its problems and I'm sure if it was a huge issue they would of addressed it with a oil free turbo. Which they haven't.

Now, they are not paying me or giving me kick backs to write anything on here. These are all personal experiences on my Z, not on corvettes, mustangs or any other cars only the Z.

Jamaica 01-29-2012 06:25 PM

That dyno is with 100oct race gas ...gotta compare numbers to numbers.

tower74 01-29-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600 (Post 1515370)
yeah, I just know for the TT kits there are changes needed for RHD, due to steering rack etc. being on other side of the car, from the looks of it, there shouldn't be any changes underneath the car (I've installed a CBE and high flow cats myself), but unsure up the front and for the intakes. Hopefully STS can chime in :)

Honestly, the system is pretty flexable as far as where it can go. Since the only thing that goes in the front is the oil cooler and innercooler. I would have to guess the under belly of these cars are the same. The funny part is, this company does sell quite a few around the world. So I would have to say you're safe but that is a guess.


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