Mustangs are also V8s. Thses cars shouldnt even be compared in a quarter mile. I dont see you even driving a TT 370z so I dont feel like you have any reason to be speaking. The mustang plateform is also just about 10 years old. the 370z is only 4 and the turbo for it is only what 1 and a half and it cost a hell of alot more to fix a z then a mustang and it cost a hell of alot more to mod then a Z. The 370z is a complete redesigning of every aspect. You cant even compare the 370 with a 350z because it is a completly different car. Then there is the torque aspect between a v8 and a v6 my car even at 542 horse power only yields like 450 torque. Torque is what gets you going which will make it more difficult to compete in a quarter mile race with a supercharged 5.0 with 550horse and 540 torque but I will put my pink slip on the line and tell you my tt 370 will out run it in a mile with the same horse power numbers. American cars are built primarily for the drag strip the 370 wasnt so its gonna take more time and effort to get it to perform in an area it wasnt completely built for. Funny you know who you are when I say "HATER"

yea im done too peace fellas ill let yall know when i run in the 10s

Due to "popular demand," we will open this back up. Two quick reminders though:

- Do not post useless replies in ANY Tech Section threads. Keep your posts on topic.

- Disagreeing is absolutely fine (in fact, we can learn a lot from it), but please keep disagreements civil.

if mustangs are pieces of crap why do they run better times? What i've noticed is if someone points out a flaw or something another car does better then all of a sudden all bets are off and it doesn't matter. 'i'd lose in the 1/4 but win in the mile.' no one does 1 mile races. so you change the criteria by which the cars are being compared in order to suit your car? I'm sure you'd be more than happy to talk about 1/4 mile times if we were talking about racing a TT 370z vs a stock acura TL.

Thanks for the lesson on torque. I'm well aware of the huge gap between torque/hp on the TT VQ37, which is part of the reason i chose not to tt my 370z, and bought a 300zx and built that up instead. For the record, the VQ engine has been around for a long time and the vq37 isn't some brand new, new fangled engine. its a bored/stroked vq35 with vvel.

i have no reason to be speaking? a question was asked, ' any FI's 370z's in the 10s? the answer is no. But nobody with a TT370z wants to actualy say 'no none of us are in the 10's so people like you come up with a treasure trove of excuses and 'will be soon' or 'would be if i had grip' etc etc. Why is it so hard to answer a question? is it embarrassing to have spent 15-20k modding a car to get it to 550+rhwp and still not be able to run a fast time? How about instead of making fun of cars that actually put down good times you get the car that you have, and claim will run 10's with the right setup, to actually do so. until then all those 'pieces of crap' cars or however you call them like subarus, mustangs, etc they all have 10 second cars and there isn't a 10 second 370z.

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I'm frustrated at your neophyte insistence that simple slicks and high(er?) boost will propel you into the tens. Ummmm....

I am always dissatisfied with anyone who claims they have a 11.xx / 10.xx / 9.xx car when they didn't produce the time card. SHOW ME THE MONEY. BIG difference between perceived capability and actual achievement. And the difference is in trial and error.

I don't see any haters in this thread. Just some knowledgeable car guys.

I'm really tempted to go back to Atco this Sunday to try to get that 11.6. Or bust. But, I'll nip away at it or not. That's how it's done. Consistent trials and small gains. I'm a realist.

It ain't tens but it's more satisfying than keyboard speculation.

Carry on. :stirthepot:

Coop

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:iagree: i guess that makes you a hater too! :p hater=car enthusiast (apparently)

so far the most solid results we've seen from the TT 370z are dyno sheets. That's about as exciting to look at as an excel spreadsheet of how much money you spent on mods.:rolleyes: If you want to roll around like you've got the fastest car on the block then show it. therse a big difference between saying your car is capable of 10's, and actually doing it. just because when you do a calculation and see that based on your power to weight ratio your car is a 10 second car, doesn't mean you could necessarily run anything better than a 12.

Saying 'my car could run a 10 if 'x,y,z' is a lot different than actually doing it. so don't say you've got a 10 second car. Say you've got 600whp all you want, but apparently in the real world it doesn't actually mean anything.

why not? it is a pretty standard metric of performance.
most of us aren't driving TT Z's because we realized there are better options. I could have FI'd my Z for what it cost to get into a mustang. Jeff definitely could have TT'd his 370 for less than his 300zx build.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that the 370z is a "complete redesign." It arguably shares more similarities with the 350 than the 5.0 does with an 09 mustang.

The VQ37 block is old. VVEL is about the only new wrench in the gears on the car...beyond that, you are mostly running on 350 parts.

don't know why you feel the need to defend against "american cars," but no, the mustang is not "built for the drag strip." It handles the drag strip just fine, and also runs with an M3 around Laguna Seca (not exactly a power track). It is built to perform. Being built to handle 1.4x 60's is a testament to a solid build.









Too much Forza gets people all excited about top end numbers with little concern about how the power gets laid down. It is really sad to see no Z's at the track (drag or road course). It is a platform that I believe should have a lot of potential, but no one has really done anything impressive with (here's pulling for travis' build to lay down the law)

aaaaaand that is why you have the top spot on the FI 1/4 mile list. You had the budget to build your car up and the diligence to track your car over and over until you get the result you want. Not many members here have both. I obviously do not have the budget for FI, otherwise I'd be trying my best to take you down! ;)

I see a lot of other Z owners at the track that give up so quickly. It makes me a bit sad to see that. I can't stress it enough that it takes practice to get the results that everyone looks at on the top 1/4 times list. Example, I've got about 130 1/4 mile passes on my 370Z. I didn't start getting good at launching it until about the 50+ mark. :icon17:

Not too long ago I was at the track and a fellow Z owner said "F*ck it, I'm gonna try to break an axle tonight". That guy brought home a 12.2 @ 111 timeslip. No ventured, nothing gained.

You are absolutely right.

"10 second car, 13 second driver"

I've been trying all year to beat my very 1st run. No luck so far, but I'm still gonna try again once tracks open up in the spring :icon17:

No worries, atleast you're trying.

If it makes you feel better, after 3 trips to the track I still haven't beat my time when I only had 2 mods (HFC's + JWT flywheel).

Repped. Hats off to you, sir. :tiphat:

Getting tired of wasting all that money though. I'm finding autoX to be more fun, so I'd rather waste my money on that.................as soon as I finally beat my damn stock time :bowrofl:

Now you know why I've been telling you all along to wait to go with me in the Spring. :p

So I can waste more of my money all at once? :bowrofl:

I might take you up on that, but I'm gonna give Capitol one more shot. It's only $20 and 15 mins away vs $100 and 1 hr away for MIR.

That's the funny part. There is so much talk on these forums (and other car forums too) about how "I'd smoke [insert car here] in a race because my car is good for XX.XX @ XXX.XX." Well, your car might be good enough for it, but are you?

People underestimate how difficult it is to get a powerful RWD car off the line effectively, especially on a street radial. That's why there are a number of guys stuck in the high-13s -- or worse yet, 14s -- more often than not due to disastrous 60' times. It takes skill and it takes practice. Some people are born with it and others just don't have the drive to work at it until they get better.

I might have HFCs on my car as well by the time the MIR rental comes around :stirthepot:

You're saving pennies and wasting dollars here. Just give up on Capitol and come with me to MIR in the spring -- it's worth it.

Fast track + the ability to put in as many passes as you want = well worth $100. I'll buy you lunch. :tup:

Nice. :tup:

I am going to try to have a set of DRs when we go (I'll also have the Konis on by then.) The Mustang and 370 share the same bolt pattern and they'd fit over your rear brakes no problem. So if I have them then I'll bring all of the tools we need to put them on your car for a few runs.

I want an 11 second time slip and based on what some friends have been running lately I am pretty sure I can end up somewhere in the 11.7-11.9 range on the DRs.

All the modding has put a hurting on my savings, I'm still in recovery mode. The only other thing is that my cousins are willing to go with me to Capitol, but not as far as MIR. I will try to come out if I can though :tup:

In that case, I will definitely be there :tup:

careful Blades, he might expect something "in return", as they say, there's no such thing as a free lunch...

Damn, I will have to buy some DRs to try and keep up.

Just skip and go straight for ET Streets. I have a friend with a set I might be able to borrow for a small "wear fee." We'll see.

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It's Steve, I know what I'm dealing with :icon17:

What's the difference between drag radials and ET Streets?

A bit off topic, I have a 7AT gtm stage 2 g37, I have a 19" advans which is a 10.0 wheel. Will they be able to support the mickey thompson 305/35/19? street radial?

They will fit just fine. MT specifies a rim width of 10-12 inches for that size tire.

Compound.

The ET Streets (not to be confused with the ET Street Radials) are a bias-ply almost completely slick drag tire that just happens to be DOT approved. They are a lot more aggressive than a conventional drag radial like the ET Street Radial, Nitto 555-R/NT05-R, or BFG DRs.

Of the drag radials the ET Street Radial is probably the best.

Ah, got it. Thanks :tup:

chuckd05 has a bmw 135i with full bolt ons with maybe 400whp... i'm not even sure if it has that much. He runs low to mid 11's. Next thing you are going to say is that BMW's are made for the drag strip because it can run a better time than a 370z? :rollseyes:


Hey coop, i checked out those runs on youtube and the ones with your STI those were sweet. that was some good driving in the subaru, too by you and your tuner. I'd love to check out your TTg37 at a northeast meet hopefully in the spring, looks fun :tup:

Hey Jeff,

Thanks. The opening run on my Subaru vid, had me whacking away at my shifter. Violent! My best was an 11.16"....
You can see how subtle, yet effective, Junior's shifting and launch were. He went three tenths quicker. I'm still not talking to him. ;)

And that's how Flippin' HARD it is to go fast at the drags.

(click my vid below and it will show my other vid on the sidebar)

Coop

That's still a good time and was some good driving. supposedly launching those AWD Cars is very hard. i watched the videos, i love how stock the G sounds even with all the HP. i'm guessing you sold the subaru for the G? why didn't you go for the G37Sx? you seem to like AWD if you had the subaru..

yes your tuner's driving was very good. that was brave of you to let him launch the car that hard hahaah.

Haha, great video. It really did sound like you were going to rip the shifter off. 10.85 is awesome. My '05 STi made 490ish whp and like 475 tq, but I never got it to the drags. Spent much more time on the track. Would have loved to turn it over to a good driver and see if it could make 10s.

Did the AEM give you launch control capability? It sounded like it at the line. Getting that big GT35R spun up was key.

chuck hasn't broken into the 11's yet, though I have no doubt he will be running high 11's next season. his setup is at least 400whp, if not more.

Damn the torpedoes. :eekdance: I've figured out my boost controller and Atco will be 45° and sunny tomorrow. They ran all day today. I called.

Just sayin'....

Now to convince my wife it's a good idea. :icon14:

Coop

Four passes in the elevens. Best of 11.74@118.

A great day, regardless of not beating my prior best.

Walkin the walk... :)

Coop

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