4.5 crankshaft 400whp

B.A.Q · 11-30-2011, 08:09 PM

I was just wondering, is it possible to reach 400whp if you swapped in a 4.5 crankshaft?? And maybe just maybe if someone just finished cracking this VVEL!!!????

Baer383 · 11-30-2011, 08:23 PM

VVEL is and will probably never be broken.

And 400hp at the crank is easily achieved by TT or Supercharger.
And would cost allot less than building a N/A motor.

kosstick · 11-30-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

VVEL is and will probably never be broken.

And 400hp at the crank is easily achieved by TT or Supercharger.
And would cost allot less than building a N/A motor.

lol.. I don't think you understand the Ops question....

Baer383 · 11-30-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kosstick

lol.. I don't think you understand the Ops question....

Whats not to understand the answer is NO this type of topic has been discussed all you need to do is use the search button.

I don't think your post helped the op at all and your worried that I don't understand the question.

bullitt5897 · 11-30-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B.A.Q

I was just wondering, is it possible to reach 400whp if you swapped in a 4.5 crankshaft?? And maybe just maybe if someone just finished cracking this VVEL!!!????

You will need to build the whole block for the 4.5L as far as cracking VVEL most people dont know whats going on behind the scenes. Uprev has been working on VVEL for sometime now trying to understand the affects of the tuning and parameters that they are tuning at the moment. A 4.5L can definitely support 400whp what it really comes down to is what compression, supporting mods and tuning will get you there. I know GTM can build you an NA motor capable of what you want but at what $$$... Their full race NA motor is like $35k...

Mike

kosstick · 11-30-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

Whats not to understand the answer is NO this type of topic has been discussed all you need to do is use the search button.

I don't think your post helped the op at all and your worried that I don't understand the question.

First of all he was asking about 400WHP not Crank.. Big difference.

Second, of all the VVEL is very close to being broken from what I understand but it doesn't seem to be very promising gains. From what my tuner has told me, they have actually been able to change lift and other things of that nature but instead of gain there was decrease and even a blown engine.

I don't think you answered one single question that the OP asked... He asked if its possible to achieve 400 WHP off a 4.5 L engine and it is quite achievable with the right amount of $. So the answer is not "NO" as you state.

NYBladeZ · 11-30-2011, 10:53 PM

cracking vvel will only help the forced induced guy and unless it is fully understood its more of a liability than anything. Best we let cracking VVEL go, its not worth it and clearly major power can still be had.

B.A.Q · 12-01-2011, 04:16 PM

the whole reason I started the thread was that I wanted to know how much can someone gain from a 4.5L crank

and yes I know there is a search option, the thing you don't know it sucks!!

VQStryker · 12-01-2011, 07:03 PM

IDK if you can put in a 4.5 crankshaft......but you can bore and sleeve the cylinders out to make your block a 4.5L block

I wouldnt hold my breath on VVEL tuning. GTM posted a video saying they accomplished approximately 800WHP. I personally think that a 400bhp N/A 370z is very achievable

P.S. I know what he means just the way he asked was funny to me

VQStryker · 12-01-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by B.A.Q

the whole reason I started the thread was that I wanted to know how much can someone gain from a 4.5L crank

and yes I know there is a search option, the thing you don't know it sucks!!

yea its a pain in the *** bro i agree, I stick with google and books.

B.A.Q · 12-01-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VQStryker

IDK if you can put in a 4.5 crankshaft......but you can bore and sleeve the cylinders out to make your block a 4.5L block

I wouldnt hold my breath on VVEL tuning. GTM posted a video saying they accomplished approximately 800WHP. I personally think that a 400bhp N/A 370z is very achievable

P.S. I know what he means just the way he asked was funny to me

I don't really know why I mentioned VVEL from making profit I think it will not make that much of revenue to whom ever is working on that,

back to my question, I think it is possible GTM have the part on their website but like Bullit said it might be cheaper to go FI but still wondering how much of a difference will it make on an NA engine?

VQStryker · 12-01-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by B.A.Q

I don't really know why I mentioned VVEL from making profit I think it will not make that much of revenue to whom ever is working on that,

back to my question, I think it is possible GTM have the part on their website but like Bullit said it might be cheaper to go FI but still wondering how much of a difference will it make on an NA engine?

If VVEL gets "cracked" this is a good question

B.A.Q · 12-01-2011, 11:23 PM

lol I wish I never mentioned VVEL, sorry I confused everybody the question was for the stroker.

NYBladeZ · 12-02-2011, 08:08 AM

I think 4.5L with a new crankshaft running high compression will get you 400whp, however it is speculation because no one has attempted such a project.

B.A.Q · 12-02-2011, 12:49 PM

yeah I know, it works on the 350z did anyone hear about anything?

the reason I'm asking is that if it could get our cars to 400whp or close, I'll be very surprised that some track guys didn't attempt do try this it's gonna be a lot more reliable than any FI I guess.

11-30-2011, 08:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
B.A.Q Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Phoenix,Az Posts: 302 Drives: Touring 370z Rep Power: 14	4.5 crankshaft 400whp I was just wondering, is it possible to reach 400whp if you swapped in a 4.5 crankshaft?? And maybe just maybe if someone just finished cracking this VVEL!!!???? __________________ SOLD!! 09 370z Touring MT: GReddy Ti-C CBE - Berk HFC - Stillen 3G CAI '11 Mustang GT/CS 5.0 MT

11-30-2011, 08:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Baer383 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lawrenceville,Ga Posts: 4,293 Drives: My foot up your azz Rep Power: 29	VVEL is and will probably never be broken. And 400hp at the crank is easily achieved by TT or Supercharger. And would cost allot less than building a N/A motor. __________________ 2013 ZL1 754 rwhp 747 rwtq

11-30-2011, 10:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	cracking vvel will only help the forced induced guy and unless it is fully understood its more of a liability than anything. Best we let cracking VVEL go, its not worth it and clearly major power can still be had. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

12-01-2011, 04:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
B.A.Q Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Phoenix,Az Posts: 302 Drives: Touring 370z Rep Power: 14	the whole reason I started the thread was that I wanted to know how much can someone gain from a 4.5L crank and yes I know there is a search option, the thing you don't know it sucks!! __________________ SOLD!! 09 370z Touring MT: GReddy Ti-C CBE - Berk HFC - Stillen 3G CAI '11 Mustang GT/CS 5.0 MT

12-01-2011, 07:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
VQStryker Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Age: 35 Posts: 659 Drives: :( Rep Power: 14	IDK if you can put in a 4.5 crankshaft......but you can bore and sleeve the cylinders out to make your block a 4.5L block I wouldnt hold my breath on VVEL tuning. GTM posted a video saying they accomplished approximately 800WHP. I personally think that a 400bhp N/A 370z is very achievable P.S. I know what he means just the way he asked was funny to me Last edited by VQStryker; 12-01-2011 at 07:13 PM.

12-01-2011, 11:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
B.A.Q Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Phoenix,Az Posts: 302 Drives: Touring 370z Rep Power: 14	lol I wish I never mentioned VVEL, sorry I confused everybody the question was for the stroker. __________________ SOLD!! 09 370z Touring MT: GReddy Ti-C CBE - Berk HFC - Stillen 3G CAI '11 Mustang GT/CS 5.0 MT

12-02-2011, 08:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	I think 4.5L with a new crankshaft running high compression will get you 400whp, however it is speculation because no one has attempted such a project. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

12-02-2011, 12:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
B.A.Q Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Phoenix,Az Posts: 302 Drives: Touring 370z Rep Power: 14	yeah I know, it works on the 350z did anyone hear about anything? the reason I'm asking is that if it could get our cars to 400whp or close, I'll be very surprised that some track guys didn't attempt do try this it's gonna be a lot more reliable than any FI I guess. __________________ SOLD!! 09 370z Touring MT: GReddy Ti-C CBE - Berk HFC - Stillen 3G CAI '11 Mustang GT/CS 5.0 MT

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