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sojirovskensi 10-24-2011 05:58 PM

how fast is FI'ed Z and satisfaction - part 2
 
Last time, I've asked how fast is FI'ed Z in numbers.
Today, since I've never got a chance to ride/drive a FI'ed Z, I would like to hear some of you who went FI route about how is FI'ed Z in feeling.
For instance, it is much faster than (e92, corvette, shelby) on straight line,etc. Or my car was so scary at first, but I am used to it now...
I'd prefer listen to more S/C guys because that's what I am looking at, but TT experiences are totally fine.

Also, if you have a chance to go back to the day before you decide to do FI, would you do it again? or save up money/want a better car?

Thanks again!

NewYorkJon34 10-24-2011 10:16 PM

With the stg.1 S/C you'll be faster than the M3, but not faster than a Z06 or Gt500.

Brazilbro 10-25-2011 01:29 AM

Stage 1 tt kit over 10 PSI and you'll be faster then pretty much any stock car from a roll under 100k.
It took a little getting use to the power at first. I wasn't use to the back end braking lose at over 60mph and drifting from side to side having come from AWD cars before the Z. But you get use to it and build nerves. Now I'm ready to see what 700whp feels like.

doda74 10-25-2011 02:03 AM

It takes some getting use to the RWHP at first but very satisfied with the GTM stage 1 SC.
For me, I don't think I need much more power, just an exhaust and maybe VVEL control if/when that gets cracked. Besides that maybe aftermarket lsd and bbk then I'm done.

NewYorkJon34 10-25-2011 08:22 AM

VVEL control is not coming, but the gt-r manifold is which should add some more power

O&G 10-25-2011 09:30 AM

GTR Manifold....yummy!

theaudir8fan 10-25-2011 10:44 AM

I have the stg 2 SC on my G, and i say it's a draw between me and a e92 M3 with the DCT.

sojirovskensi 10-25-2011 11:12 AM

Hmm any satisfaction rate out of 10 scale, anyone?

christian370z 10-25-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theaudir8fan (Post 1376019)
I have the stg 2 SC on my G, and i say it's a draw between me and a e92 M3 with the DCT.

Really? There are videos out there of bolt on N/A 370s that already keep up with E9X M3s. My Z always runs even with my friend's DCT M3 on a closed road, you should be able to walk all over an M3 with a stage 2 SC.

phunk 10-25-2011 11:51 AM

Ill make a bet right now that the GTR manifold doesn't provide any worthwhile power gains. There is nothing inherent in its design that makes it any more aggressive of a manifold than the VHR manifold. Matter of fact, the VHR manifold is more highly engineered piece. I will be surprised to see a change of more than +/- 5-10hp anywhere in the powerband. I think its just as likely to lose power as it is to gain, only testing will tell.

If I had to **guess**, I would expect it to pick up a little torque at best.

kosstick 10-25-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theaudir8fan (Post 1376019)
I have the stg 2 SC on my G, and i say it's a draw between me and a e92 M3 with the DCT.

Somethings wrong with your car bro, Even though you have a g35S you should *** rape a e93 m3..

theaudir8fan 10-25-2011 12:58 PM

Yea i think there is something wrong too, but i'm talking out of honesty here, e92 M3 is not that easy to deal with, at least in my car.

kosstick 10-25-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by theaudir8fan (Post 1376267)
Yea i think there is something wrong too, but i'm talking out of honesty here, e92 M3 is not that easy to deal with, at least in my car.

E92 M3 have like 410-420 crank hp (forgot exact number). I am assuming you have 420-450 WHP? M3 also weighs 3,700+ lbs

chris90 10-25-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kosstick (Post 1376285)
E92 M3 have like 410-420 crank hp (forgot exact number). I am assuming you have 420-450 WHP? M3 also weighs 3,700+ lbs

its easy to say that and all but I feel like a g35s tt and an e92 m3 with dct(faster than manual) and it being even is no surprise and understandable. now take a g37 or 370z nd tt it vs e92m3 and there should be no comparison.

going back to topic more 370 fi stories please I'm interested to hear opinions as well.

CarbonSignal 10-25-2011 01:25 PM

I went thought 2 different setups on my 350z,

Aps single turbo+ stock engine for about a year
GTM stg 2 + built engine. 1 yr till now..

I must say, if I have the chance to do it again, I would do the same, except of choosing TT first and go for less aggressive cams to keep the power band lower.

My car hit 601whp and daaaaamn it's feeling that cannot be described. I cannot understand how ppl go for 700whp and more ?!?!? 600 and I don't have the guts to floor it unless I am above 60mph ...

weiboy718 10-25-2011 01:27 PM

Even though he might have a higher hp car but that don't mean a whole lot.

kosstick 10-25-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1376308)
Even though he might have a higher hp car but that don't mean a whole lot.

Sorry a bit confused, E93 and G37 have comparable weight and the G35S Stg 2 SC has easy 70+ WHP. Don't see how the E93 should be able to keep up unless it was magically a few hundred pounds lighter

chris90 10-25-2011 01:56 PM

maybe the g35s stg 2 cant deliver the power linear and smoothly. there are factors we dont know as well mph of race, what gear, hot out?(sucks for turbos) . things like that but for the most part I would think and I have no experience with TT g's that a stg 2 g35s needs some finesse to deliver 415whp as opposed to an m3 with lets say 380whp? with launch control as well as a dct system that delivers lightning fast shifts

kosstick 10-25-2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris90 (Post 1376365)
maybe the g35s stg 2 cant deliver the power linear and smoothly. there are factors we dont know as well mph of race, what gear, hot out?(sucks for turbos) . things like that but for the most part I would think and I have no experience with TT g's that a stg 2 g35s needs some finesse to deliver 415whp as opposed to an m3 with lets say 380whp? with launch control as well as a dct system that delivers lightning fast shifts

its a stage 2 SC and a M3 should have about 357ish WHP

weiboy718 10-25-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kosstick (Post 1376411)
its a stage 2 SC and a M3 should have about 357ish WHP

You'll find out soon enough after you get your kit installed

DIGItonium 10-25-2011 05:05 PM

What I like about where I'm at now is that the power band is very smooth and not peaky. It looks like an n/a power band! It also retains the N/A low end response, so the TT simply assists the engine for more thrust :)

theaudir8fan 10-25-2011 05:39 PM

i honestly do not know why i'm not faster then a E92 M3, i thought i would have it pretty easily.

Chris, i have a stg 2 SC not TT, just encase you thought i had a TT. also my car has the 35HR which pretty much shares a lot more parts with the 37VHR then the 35DE, so getting past 400whp limit is quite easy for the HR, unlike the DE

Nixlimited 10-25-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1376093)
Really? There are videos out there of bolt on N/A 370s that already keep up with E9X M3s. My Z always runs even with my friend's DCT M3 on a closed road, you should be able to walk all over an M3 with a stage 2 SC.

That's what I was thinking. Hell Phunk was talking about beating a GT2 with stage 2 turbos, which aren't far off from stage 2 sc.

kosstick 10-25-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718 (Post 1376568)
You'll find out soon enough after you get your kit installed

Lol why not just tell me now?

toner123 10-25-2011 08:21 PM

Here is how this works. Go Twin Turbo Nuff said

Nismo370 10-25-2011 09:03 PM

E92 m3s are a joke. My friend has one and on 6psi (456whp) andi leave him like he is standing still. BTW someone plz beat my 127mph trap speed = )

Brazilbro 10-26-2011 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo370 (Post 1377216)
E92 m3s are a joke. My friend has one and on 6psi (456whp) andi leave him like he is standing still. BTW someone plz beat my 127mph trap speed = )

Probably safe until next year.. tomorrows the last day the track is open and I think its going to rain :shakes head:

christian370z 10-26-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1376846)
That's what I was thinking. Hell Phunk was talking about beating a GT2 with stage 2 turbos, which aren't far off from stage 2 sc.

Most stock E9X M3s put down around 335-350whp and 250-260ftlbs. Add in the extra weight, and it's an even match for a full bolt on 370Z. Add forced induction to the Z or G, and it will not be close.

Nismo370 10-27-2011 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 1377390)
Probably safe until next year.. tomorrows the last day the track is open and I think its going to rain :shakes head:

= ) well I'm getting a retune so I'm hoping to go over 130 before they close the track by me.

RCZ 10-27-2011 03:55 PM

Sad thing is I got a ride in a tuned/intake M3 a couple nights ago and it felt as fast as my car with the SC.

kosstick 10-27-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 1380671)
Sad thing is I got a ride in a tuned/intake M3 a couple nights ago and it felt as fast as my car with the SC.

Run against it and see :tup:

RCZ 10-27-2011 04:03 PM

not a bad idea, but Im on heavy 20's now since I sold my volks and the partout is next week.

It was a big surprise, I did not expect it to pull so hard.

Nixlimited 10-27-2011 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 1380671)
Sad thing is I got a ride in a tuned/intake M3 a couple nights ago and it felt as fast as my car with the SC.

I think that's just a matter of perspective (i.e. being in the passenger seat). I always feel like cars are stronger from the passenger seat. For example, in my STi, I felt like my 460WHP map was totally manageable from the driver's seat, but when I let other people drive it, it felt way stronger and was a bit scary.

BTW, what are you getting post-370?

KaienZ34 10-27-2011 07:41 PM

Come on down the tracks are open year round. :tiphat:

ihatepotholes 10-27-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1380930)
I think that's just a matter of perspective (i.e. being in the passenger seat). I always feel like cars are stronger from the passenger seat. For example, in my STi, I felt like my 460WHP map was totally manageable from the driver's seat, but when I let other people drive it, it felt way stronger and was a bit scary.

BTW, what are you getting post-370?


well said, couldn't agree more. however, dct equipped M3 traps close to 115 and they are pretty fast up top. a supercharged 370z and a m3 would be a good race.

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 08:11 PM

Every video I see of 400+ whp 370Z's is a blatant reminder that the car is only meant to have 300whp or so. They can't keep it planted, they shift it like a dump-truck because the short gearing makes that redline come up so FAST at that power level, etc. etc. etc.

If you want a 400+whp 370Z that's going to compete with a 'vette in the power department, you have a TON of work to do. The ENTIRE driveline has to be re-done. Not just the engine/power production aspect.

Not hating as I plan on trading for a '12 when they come out for various reasons discussed elsewhere, just observing, now that I own a 450whp car that was MADE to have 450whp. It's a totally different ballgame than some "tuner" car that suddenly has 150% the power it used to.

toner123 10-27-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380999)
Every video I see of 400+ whp 370Z's is a blatant reminder that the car is only meant to have 300whp or so. They can't keep it planted, they shift it like a dump-truck because the short gearing makes that redline come up so FAST at that power level, etc. etc. etc.

If you want a 400+whp 370Z that's going to compete with a 'vette in the power department, you have a TON of work to do. The ENTIRE driveline has to be re-done. Not just the engine/power production aspect.

Not hating as I plan on trading for a '12 when they come out for various reasons discussed elsewhere, just observing, now that I own a 450whp car that was MADE to have 450whp. It's a totally different ballgame than some "tuner" car that suddenly has 150% the power it used to.

I think I have to disagree with you. You can get the traction control system, that will take care of the planting and all. My friends vette in all honesty doesn't really plant any better then mine does. He slides his *** out just as much as i can. Now maybe because he is modified but he has maybe like 75 more ponies to the wheel then me.

ihatepotholes 10-27-2011 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1380999)
Every video I see of 400+ whp 370Z's is a blatant reminder that the car is only meant to have 300whp or so. They can't keep it planted, they shift it like a dump-truck because the short gearing makes that redline come up so FAST at that power level, etc. etc. etc.

If you want a 400+whp 370Z that's going to compete with a 'vette in the power department, you have a TON of work to do. The ENTIRE driveline has to be re-done. Not just the engine/power production aspect.

Not hating as I plan on trading for a '12 when they come out for various reasons discussed elsewhere, just observing, now that I own a 450whp car that was MADE to have 450whp. It's a totally different ballgame than some "tuner" car that suddenly has 150% the power it used to.

i have to disagree. coming from Evo and M3 i feel Z's stock gearing is way too tall. i raced an older cts-v once on highway it literally took forever to get out of 4th gear. hence why 4.08 equipped Z accelerate noticeable faster.

ImportConvert 10-27-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 1381031)
I think I have to disagree with you. You can get the traction control system, that will take care of the planting and all. My friends vette in all honesty doesn't really plant any better then mine does. He slides his *** out just as much as i can. Now maybe because he is modified but he has maybe like 75 more ponies to the wheel then me.

...and a ton more torque and a lot different power-band.

Can you floor your car and go WOT on good pavement without spinning? I can. TC off.

Just because an electronic nanny prevents you from spinning the tires by limiting power doesn't mean your car is handling the power efficiently. It just means it can't handle the power. The 370Z needs a LOT of change to handle it.

Deadman 10-27-2011 08:30 PM

Ya the gearing feels very tall to me as well, but I'm also only running a lightly Modded Z.


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