ok so i are still working to get that magic 500rwhp number
the water/meth kit and oil cooler is installed once again nice work from the boys at je import on the custom mounting and install

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...r/IMG_8946.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1.../IMG_23131.jpg

just have to filler her up with boost juice then we will put the car back on the dyno

also after a few hard runs with the oil cooler normally it would be 220-230 with 250 spikes now it is sitting at 190-200 with 220 spikes so much better on the cooling i am using the 19 row stillen cooler

With that snow kit you should easily hit your 500RWHP goal. If the shop tunes for it just be sure you don't run out of juice or bad things will happen LOL

I wanted 500RWHP in my Challenger and ended up close to 600 or a bit over. It's a bit hairy on street tires.

I figured 400RWHP would be phenomenal in a car this light, I can't imagine 500 with this short wheel base go cart of a car LOL

it's really not that bad...I'm not at 500hp yet but getting closer...within 30-40 right now.

Clean looking install. That looks really nice.:tup:

Good luck and I hope you reach your goals!

But, one thing to keep in mind, the biggest gain in power after adding meth injenction is being able to turn the boost up. Do you plan on getting yet another pulley? If not, I really hope there are still a few more degrees of timing left on the table.

good choice on the meth kit, definitely going to see a good bump in power with some more aggressive timing. the only thing that really bothered me about the stillen setup is that the car is blind to true IAT's. From my understanding if your IAT's are too hot, it should retard timing, if they are cool it would allow for advance. IAT is based of the driver side MAF sensor, and all it can read with stillens setup is ambient air temp.

I will talk to my tuner, I did talk about maybe changing the setup to a blow-throught setup by cutting the piping between the blower and intake an moving 2 Maf sensors to a box config that would go between the blower

Or maybe try and put some kind of ait sensor after the intake manifold inter cooler to get the best true reading I am just guessing here. Thinking out loud

Your only option is to find an IAT sensor that has a similar voltage output compared to stock (check the FSM). Drill/tap the stillen plenum after the IC and tap the output into the MAF signal to feed the ecu a proper IAT signal.

The 9 pound pulley is 2.75 that's what I got when I measured. You can order a smaller pulley from 928 motorsports 928 Motorsports - Porsche® 928 Performance Parts - 8-Rib Power Pulleys for Powerdyne, Vortech, Paxton Superchargers.

If you do I would look into a smaller belt and install a idler pulley like in this picture to get more belt wrap and prevent belt slippage.http://www.the370z.com/drivetrain-en...arger-kit.html

But once you do this I think your going to Max out your maf's for sure. I did with my set up and 3.12 pulley that comes with the kit.

You are doing good with the kit nice choice on the Meth kit nice job:tup:

nice out so some go pro action work in progress!!!
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:tup:Car sound good man keep up the good work

i was asked to put a few more pictures of the snow performance kit so here you go>>

i was asked to put a few more pictures of the snow performance kit so here you go>>sry for the picture size and the repost internet explore and photobuck problems

i was asked to put a few more pictures of the snow performance kit so here you go>>
this switch turns the system on and off also low fluid light
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controller is tucked near the battery
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Thanks for putting up more pics of the snow performance install and for such a great build thread. Good luck with everything I hope you hit all your goals!

Awesome build, looking forward to seeing your wring all the potential out of the Stillen kit. With the on/off switch for the snow kit are you planning on having 2 tunes one for with chemical inter-cooling and one without?

Thats pretty much the only way to take advantage of meth kits safely. Meth will drop intake temps and allow more aggressive timing, without meth that extra timing would cause detonation/knock so 2 maps is the smart move. Ideally the meth kit would tell the ecu when it was disabled and the map switch would occur automatically, unfortunately there is no way for our ECU to integrate with a kit like this that I am aware of so the map switch has to be done manually via cruise control buttons.

I will talk to my tuner about the dual map..I don't drive my car like I stole it so if the kit stayed on all the time it's fine with me it will only spray when in boost and 95% of the time I am no in boost.

I go for the tune on Thursday :tup:

dont get me wrong you can use meth without another map, it would still help cool the intake charge and make more power, you would just make even more with aggressive timing.

Ok so a set back.. I went to have the water/meth tune done and we did a base line run before the new tune a/f looked good no knocking but hp on the top dropped off by 70hp

On a compression test 2 of the cylinders on the driver side were low we were thinking head gaskets ok hoping head gasket

So the motor is out of the car and taken apart looks like a piston ring was casing blow-by so I am forced to build the motor with a .020 over bore.


Going to drop the compression by 1 point to a 10.5-10 cr

Man I was not rdy for this good thing I have my zx10r as a back up


Down side I have to drop another 6k to have this done :mad: good news is I will be sitting on a forged motor good for so serious power.:tup:

Ps : and yes the plan is to use the on/off switch to switch between tunes
One aggressive tune for water/meth and the other with out w/m.

That sux to hear man..
Who is building the motor?

That sucks. what do u think was the main cause for the blow by?

Not sure but the tune was spot on.
Could have been a defect or some thing not sure .

Every. Thing looked clean other then the piston rings so.

Je imports doing all the work great group of guys over there .

I have the worse luck with cars if god tuned my car I am sure it would brake once he gave me the keys :shakes head:

You may have had an oil burner to begin with.. Introducing FI could have exasperated the problem.

GL with the rebuild.. I look forward to your results.

Wow! Sorry to hear that man! Did you notice anything wrong prior to finding out you had bad rings?

i picked this car up from a subaru dealership jan of last year with 24k on the clock one owner before me no idea if the guy ran the car hard or not never had any problems with the car til now.

the only thing when i got the car was it had a spacer on driver side of the rear wheel and nothing on the other wheel and a slightly warped rear rotor
because i dont drive the car hard or much besides to work i did not notice this til months after.

i know adding more power to the mix will pull any problems to the top and i guess for me its bad piston rings :mad:

Be happy you found the issue before the engine popped. You would be spending a lot more to fix a blown engine. Good luck with the build!

ok still waiting for the rebuild to be complete
my engine rebuild will be with
: eagle forged rods
: wiseco pistons 96mm-15.5cc dish
: arp head studs and thicker head gasket
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of course the stillen kit w/9-lb pulley
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water-meth injection kit
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retune
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this set up will drop my cr by 1 point

Thinking about moving the meth injection nozzles while the motor is apart? Seems like they would have more benefit after the intercooler though I'm still learning.

Well you know the stillen kit has the inter cooler as part of the intake so no way to do the injection after the cooler.

Check out where GTM installed meth on their TT install, the same location would work on our Stillen setup. They have it plumbed into the into the lower portion of the intake manifold from the bottom. It's the piece that the Stillen manifold bolts to and feeds air directly to each cylinder

Edit: here is the picture

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...S/P1070502.jpg

Wow that's nice going to look into that

ok finally got the car back and its running fine with the new forged motor will be getting a retune in the new 2 weeks.
going to pay the car off before i do anything else i should be able to dump 15k on the car note between now and feb.

SUB, Will be nice to see which one of us get closer. :) glad you got the car back and all is well, Two weeks EH , Mine ATp is the 25th

sounds good man lets see how this turns out :)

if i decide to stick this stillen thing out i will be upgrading to the t-trim and larger intake pipping were the maf is
was also talking to a different shop about doing something with the pipping to move the maf behind the blower we will see

HEY!! You reading my thread.. LOL I went with the large MAF intake( S&R) and upgraded MAF's along with a handful of other things.. The I was also thinking about going to blow through too, But decided to stay this way.

Ok so I will be leaving Je imports and going with hills garage to finish my build I drop the car off Tuesday for a complete retune and can only pray that Je atleast did a good job on putting the motor together not going to bad mouth them but for the money I paid I should not have to keep calling about my car
So good luck Je but I am moving on
move the time to tuesday sep 4

i drop the car off at hills garage today they will do a full look over and compression test to make sure the motor is good before they do a fresh retune.

i will post the results once i get the retune dyno

Nice I'm still waiting to get the car back from the dealer, LONG Story, Someone can not put a bolt in,, LOL

ok so the guys at hills garage did a complete test on the build motor and found it to be sound :tup:
now onto the tuning. the tuner is not at all happy with what he is seeing
not under load he is seeing that the maf's are both reading different voltages they are off by as much as .5v
and its driving the computer crazy on the fuel map side
he said there is a few things he can try but the placement of the mafs are not good
or it could be a leak at the bpv he is just getting started
also uprev is the software being used and its not letting him adj. each maf but doing more of an average of the 2

he told me that if he cant get the fuel mapping the way he wants then we need to look at other options he has been using uprev for over 4yrs

i told him cool if its not the way he wants then i will leave the car untuned pull the stillen kit and go with a turbo kit top of next year ( i dont drive my car much since i have a backup)

best thing is the tuner is looking at it as a challenge lol. so i guess thats kinda good maybe he can get it running right
any ways i think i told the guy like 20 times i just cant do another blown motor lol

If the compression test came out alright, then you should be fine. They're going to do whatever they need to make sure the tune is completely safe and making the most amount of power, reliably.

A "draw-through" (Stillen) MAF sensor is a lot more of a challenge to tune than a "blow-through" (GTM).

I've been going to Hill's Garage for over almost 4 years now. Ever since then, I won't let anyone else touch my car. You're in good hands my friend.