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Zsteve 08-20-2010 04:40 PM

GTM SC installs reviewed
 
We have seen a summary of the stillen kit and wanted to see how GTM is doing but didnt want to take over a thread meant to discuss something else.

So who has the GTM kit installed and how is the kit doing?

David@UAMotorsports 08-20-2010 04:47 PM

Shumby??

Jamaica 08-20-2010 04:56 PM

....

RCZ 08-20-2010 06:00 PM

I really don't want to disrespect anyone or start ****, but everyone who said they had one installed went quiet...

I am very interested in this thread too. In for results.

bullitt5897 08-20-2010 06:15 PM

No noise is better than bad noise... Most people usually drive their cars for a while and don't care to take the time to write a long review... I know the kits are selling cause sam has a lot of cars getting them installed. Unlike the stillen kit no one has been reporting problems...

theDreamer 08-20-2010 07:39 PM

I have been driving mine for about 2-3 weeks now with zero problems. The car is making good power, and we are still fine tuning a few things with the long tube headers and playing with settings to see what we can do.
Overall the kit has been great, install was a breeze for Baker Tuning, the system sounds great, and no issues. Not really sure what people want me to report on, it just works exactly as it is suppose and as GTM said it would. I decided to throw my own wrench in with the long tube headers as the original design for the GTM kit was not build around them. So we are having fun and working directly with Sam to help give feedback on them so he can provide better support for those who wish to have LTH and his SC kit.

Overall I could not be happier with this kit.

G37Sam 08-20-2010 07:52 PM

^ Are you able to hit the advertised 8psi with the long tubes?

theDreamer 08-20-2010 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 686330)
^ Are you able to hit the advertised 8psi with the long tubes?

Not currently, but never really planned to with a stage 1 SC setup.

RCZ 08-20-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 686237)
No noise is better than bad noise... Most people usually drive their cars for a while and don't care to take the time to write a long review... I know the kits are selling cause sam has a lot of cars getting them installed. Unlike the stillen kit no one has been reporting problems...

No ****, there's no noise because no one has it lol. Lot of cars no one knows about. I know the Stillen kits are selling because there are actually reviews.

The only people that have it are people who installed it at GTM. If I remember correctly, Z Eliminator/dannygt ordered the first ones? They still don't have it.

Dreamer ever dynoed?

Zsteve 08-20-2010 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 686306)
I have been driving mine for about 2-3 weeks now with zero problems. The car is making good power, and we are still fine tuning a few things with the long tube headers and playing with settings to see what we can do.
Overall the kit has been great, install was a breeze for Baker Tuning, the system sounds great, and no issues. Not really sure what people want me to report on, it just works exactly as it is suppose and as GTM said it would. I decided to throw my own wrench in with the long tube headers as the original design for the GTM kit was not build around them. So we are having fun and working directly with Sam to help give feedback on them so he can provide better support for those who wish to have LTH and his SC kit.

Overall I could not be happier with this kit.

is the tune too rich or too lean? How far off the 8 psi are you with LTHs? And did gthey tune it for the 8 psi or did you go for a lower psi?

de_dust 08-20-2010 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 686415)
No ****, there's no noise because no one has it lol. Lot of cars no one knows about. I know the Stillen kits are selling because there are actually reviews.

The only people that have it are people who installed it at GTM. If I remember correctly, Z Eliminator/dannygt ordered the first ones? They still don't have it.

Dreamer ever dynoed?

yeah, the jury is still out with the GTM kits. I think they were having troubles with their supplier, that's why they made a part for shumby's in house, which is the only why he already has his. I guess we'll hear more installs coming up pretty soon. but to bullit's point, its better to have no news than bad news.

i think the only stillen kits sold right now are the ones from the initial introductory purchases when no one knew about all the issues and when they were bragging about all the testing they were doing. something in the lines of track tested not just in the dyno. hahaha. i was under the impression that they stopped the sale of the kit because of all Stillen's issues. but if they haven't, that is really bad for them to take ppls money for a flawed/incomplete product.

Zsteve 08-20-2010 09:15 PM

and even if they did have a prob with something atleast they seemed to have waited to sell the kits keeping people from being able todrive thier cars. So a delay is better than having it on and then cant drive it but like was said its still a little early to see yet. Need to have some more kits installed.

I also remember several months ago a member was getting flamed cuz he was downing the Stillen kits from before and was stating what went wrong with them and I think the same thing is happening now with the new kit. So past history seems to matter some. I think all in all both kits will get things figured out and will be good kits.

theDreamer 08-20-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 686415)
No ****, there's no noise because no one has it lol. Lot of cars no one knows about. I know the Stillen kits are selling because there are actually reviews.

The only people that have it are people who installed it at GTM. If I remember correctly, Z Eliminator/dannygt ordered the first ones? They still don't have it.

Dreamer ever dynoed?

Mine was installed in Houston at Baker Tuning, not GTM. Is there something wrong with no one having a kit yet?
Do I need to get pictures for you?
We have been on the dyno, and are working with Sam to check everything since this is a unique build that is different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 686423)
is the tune too rich or too lean? How far off the 8 psi are you with LTHs? And did gthey tune it for the 8 psi or did you go for a lower psi?

We are running the 8PSI pulley which was designed for stock headers and cats, the tuning is a back and forth right now to see what can be done with the headers. How far can we tune it with the headers and a stage 1 kit.

Edit: I know everyone is waiting on results for everyone who ordered and on my setup with how it pairs with the long tube headers, but it is a process which takes time and we do not want to push it faster than it needs to be.

JB-370z 08-20-2010 10:01 PM

If anything, Dreamer is testing the waters for others looking to go GTM SC+LTH's. This is going to be valuble information brother. See what is important here guys is to stay on the same page, with a common goal of making the Z more powerful. Lets not get lost in the politics of company vs company. This should be a friendly game not a childish one. My GTM stage 2 twin turbo kit has been installed for a month and a half yet I have not done a review at all. Which reminds me RCZ I still owe you a review, hahaha. Hope to get that soon I have been just so busy with work and a new baby coming soon. Anywho I think that SC is a great option at this point no matter who you go with. The added power is what it is all about, the Z is a blasty blast once you go boosted.

-JB

Z eliminator 08-21-2010 01:24 PM

I would post a reveiw but i do not have mine yet!
Sam told me that it would be shipped out a week ago friday.
he still had to work out the lines for my oil cooler.
Im getting very impatient about the long wait.
winter is coming soon and i want to rn the 1/4 mile with the SC.
The Ontario Z drag day is Sept 18 and it does not look like it will be on my car,

Z

Zsteve 08-21-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 686998)
I would post a reveiw but i do not have mine yet!
Sam told me that it would be shipped out a week ago friday.
he still had to work out the lines for my oil cooler.
Im getting very impatient about the long wait.
winter is coming soon and i want to rn the 1/4 mile with the SC.
The Ontario Z drag day is Sept 18 and it does not look like it will be on my car,

Z

is your oil cooler different than the one they had or did they not have one with the kit?

NYBladeZ 08-21-2010 01:45 PM

I have the LTH's and I'm very interested in Dreamer's results. I'm happy to hear that it is running well but I have to state that it is concerning that we haven't heard any figures or dynos to date especially if it's been about 3 weeks since the install. It leads me to believe that he is much farther away from 8psi and dare I guess less than 6psi. Of course I know we have to be patient so we will. Good luck Dreamer, guys like me are highly anticipating what results your setup yields...

Bluemeanie 08-22-2010 10:02 AM

I have a new never installed Rotrex SC for sale if anyone is interested. $1000.
PM me if interested. My car got totaled at the track just before we were going to install it.

:tiphat:

370Zsteve 08-22-2010 10:08 AM

in for updates

Z eliminator 08-27-2010 08:09 AM

The oil cooler set up has 5 lines in it as the cooler goes on the drivers side below the SC oil cooler. Sam has the set up for a G 37 but the 370z set up is slightly different and the lines and brakets have to be custom made as mine is the first 370, 7 AT.
It will have the SC oil cooler, the tranny cooler, a power stering oil cooler, and an oil cooler for the engine + the Sc interecooler. I got the race oil cooler for the 370.
Sam explained to me that you have to very care full where you mount every thing as the 370 Z front bumper has less openings in it than the G 37. He will have to take his 370z demo car apart to measure every thing up so that its fits pefectly on customers cars. He is working on it this week. I wanted a stage 2 but he does not have one in stock for me. He is not sure when he will have one. Im going to wait till he gets one. The possibilty of not having a SC car for a long time. Sam has never let me down so he will get it to me and it will fit perfectly and run well. The 11 secound 1/4 mile will just have to wait.

Z

DannyGT 08-27-2010 09:30 AM

Mine just arrived today, YUMMMM...

I'll be doing a video unboxing for all you to drool at tomorrow afternoon. ;) I will have a small window of time inbetween work and the premiere party for Mafia 2 that we are sponsored at in NYC.

If I cant pull it off, then 100% by Sunday night.

Z eliminator 08-27-2010 10:15 AM

I will send you pictures of my stage 2 going down the track. Some day in the future !!!!
Good to see that you got it. Good luck with the install.
Can not wait to see how many LB's of boost you make and the dyno of your car.

Z

dang370z 08-27-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 696638)
The oil cooler set up has 5 lines in it as the cooler goes on the drivers side below the SC oil cooler. Sam has the set up for a G 37 but the 370z set up is slightly different and the lines and brakets have to be custom made as mine is the first 370, 7 AT.
It will have the SC oil cooler, the tranny cooler, a power stering oil cooler, and an oil cooler for the engine + the Sc interecooler. I got the race oil cooler for the 370.
Sam explained to me that you have to very care full where you mount every thing as the 370 Z front bumper has less openings in it than the G 37. He will have to take his 370z demo car apart to measure every thing up so that its fits pefectly on customers cars. He is working on it this week. I wanted a stage 2 but he does not have one in stock for me. He is not sure when he will have one. Im going to wait till he gets one. The possibilty of not having a SC car for a long time. Sam has never let me down so he will get it to me and it will fit perfectly and run well. The 11 secound 1/4 mile will just have to wait.

Z

Quick question... how did you prepare the car prior to ordering the SC. did you have CBE or LTH or anything?

Q8y_drifter 08-28-2010 02:09 AM

Z eliminator, by stage 2 you mean the C38-71 kit?

Zsteve 08-31-2010 05:14 PM

any new GTM installs yet?

Jamaica 08-31-2010 05:24 PM

still waiting for the lth issue

Zsteve 08-31-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 702534)
still waiting for the lth issue

some kits have gone out right? Im waiting for a kit install with just a CBE and the kit to see how the numbers and tune comes out.

Q8y_drifter 08-31-2010 05:46 PM

A guy on myg37 (mikelr) has a GTM SC kit which he installed himself. No numbers posted yet.

docaam 09-23-2010 04:31 AM

in for results

shumby 09-23-2010 05:41 AM

well here is my summary. Had the kit for 4 months now. running the 6 psi pully making 390 HP and 350 TQ. I tried the LTH but at the time it was a no go and I did not have time to f around with it as i needed to get home. Sam put on stock cats and headers for me and away i went. now 7000+ miles later everything is great. and that is with an endurance test of 2300 miles in 24 hrs. The one and only issue I ever had with it was a hotstart issue which was solved the next day from same with a simple reflash. No waiting around for months for 7 different tunes to come out. Like i say no complaints so really nothing to post about. but I guess Stillen is working the old addage " even bad pres is still getting some press".

I myself when i get time will be going with the 8 PSI pully soon. As i have ratbagged on the car alot on the tranny seems to be doing fine. Time will tell on that though. But all this will be on hold until dreamer sees what the LTH can do. Also looking at the VQ38 manifold getting on there.


Right now could not be happier with the car and the power. And i definatly could not be happier with the service and support that Sam and all the boys at GTM give. I have had the pleasure of being down there intheir shop while they worked on my car and these guys are awsome. Not just some watabee mechanics working on cars. They love what they do and care about what they do. If something is wrong they will fix it although have had nothing really not work. They seem to work on the princaple of right the first time unlike stillen that seems to get the products out and then tries to get things right.

G37Sam 09-23-2010 08:03 AM

LOL was reading your attempt of a review

Zsteve 09-23-2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumby (Post 733196)
well here is my summary. Had the kit for 4 months now. running the 6 psi pully making 390 HP and 350 TQ. I tried the LTH but at the time it was a no go and I did not have time to f around with it as i needed to get home. Sam put on stock cats and headers for me and away i went. now 7000+ miles later everything is great. and that is with an endurance test of 2300 miles in 24 hrs. The one and only issue I ever had with it was a hotstart issue which was solved the next day from same with a simple reflash. No waiting around for months for 7 different tunes to come out. Like i say no complaints so really nothing to post about. but I guess Stillen is working the old addage " even bad pres is still getting some press".

I myself when i get time will be going with the 8 PSI pully soon. As i have ratbagged on the car alot on the tranny seems to be doing fine. Time will tell on that though. But all this will be on hold until dreamer sees what the LTH can do. Also looking at the VQ38 manifold getting on there.


Right now could not be happier with the car and the power. And i definatly could not be happier with the service and support that Sam and all the boys at GTM give. I have had the pleasure of being down there intheir shop while they worked on my car and these guys are awsome. Not just some watabee mechanics working on cars. They love what they do and care about what they do. If something is wrong they will fix it although have had nothing really not work. They seem to work on the princaple of right the first time unlike stillen that seems to get the products out and then tries to get things right.

Cool, make sure you post here again when you get that 8 psi pulley on. I want to see the numbers then and how well it does.

roplusbee 09-23-2010 01:24 PM

:iagree: I am waiting to see how the LTH issue pans out. Until that time, I am going to play the sideline and stay N.A. quietly......

Buddy Revell 09-23-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 686225)
I really don't want to disrespect anyone or start ****, but everyone who said they had one installed went quiet...

I am very interested in this thread too. In for results.

I'm holding off on my review until I get the bypass valve and intake pipe thing SAM mentioned on the other thread worked out.

weiboy718 09-23-2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 733860)
I'm holding off on my review until I get the bypass valve and intake pipe thing SAM mentioned on the other thread worked out.

i remembered your car made 430ish whp correct? did Sam removed the dyno chart on myg37 for some reasons?

Staples 09-23-2010 09:13 PM

I wonder if we could run 10psi on these smaller superchargers? They would be torque queens.

RCZ 10-12-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 733860)
I'm holding off on my review until I get the bypass valve and intake pipe thing SAM mentioned on the other thread worked out.

Only replying since you replied to my comment.

All I gotta say is that I'm not surprised.

Zsteve 10-12-2010 05:32 PM

we need some more GTM reviews and independent dynos.

theDreamer 10-12-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 762522)
Only replying since you replied to my comment.

All I gotta say is that I'm not surprised.

:confused:
About what?

Staples 10-13-2010 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 762765)
:confused:
About what?

The writing is on the wall. :tiphat:


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