GTM Performance Engineering 370Z SUPERCHARGER KIT PRESS RELEASE

MMC Racing · 03-09-2010, 07:58 AM

Stand alone cost - $3000 installed
Extra tuning - $800
The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless

A direct comparison to GT-R's is not apples to apples because the G/Z platform is not factory turbo, but look how far the GT-R can be taken on just the Cobb. I doubt on one of these Stage 1-3 kits that a standalone will be any safer or gain any significant power. As is often said with mods, the increased performance is from lightening your wallet.

Red370 · 03-09-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Stand alone cost - $3000 installed
Extra tuning - $800
The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless

A direct comparison to GT-R's is not apples to apples because the G/Z platform is not factory turbo, but look how far the GT-R can be taken on just the Cobb. I doubt on one of these Stage 1-3 kits that a standalone will be any safer or gain any significant power. As is often said with mods, the increased performance is from lightening your wallet.

Mine is on the way, woo!

Buddy Revell · 03-09-2010, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Stand alone cost - $3000 installed
Extra tuning - $800
The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless

A direct comparison to GT-R's is not apples to apples because the G/Z platform is not factory turbo, but look how far the GT-R can be taken on just the Cobb. I doubt on one of these Stage 1-3 kits that a standalone will be any safer or gain any significant power. As is often said with mods, the increased performance is from lightening your wallet.

Agreed. When good quality reflash software is available, standalones are probably only necessary for high-boost/built engine applications.

fstrnldr · 03-09-2010, 02:59 PM

A good reflash will be light years ahead of a lot of the stand alone options out there with in limits. We aren't talking about some of the lame "power programmers" that were available back in the day that offer simple tuning options. We are talking about being able to reprogram all or 90%+ of the factory parameters. In this situation until you are well beyond what the factory sensors (mainly maf/map) can handle in terms of airflow, you will probably be better off with a stock ECU on a reflash.

When the time may come that the mafs just aren't able to meter the much larger volume of air coming into the motor, or you need so much fuel that your injectors are too large to be able to idle well w/ in the stock ecus capability, or similar, then a stand alone is going to be the better option. However to achieve the same level of driveability, plan to spend some time, and some money. The factory ECU can compensate for almost any change in atmospheric conditions, duplicating this ability w/ the tables offered in most stand alone options is where a good tuner with experience will shine.

Kastley85891 · 03-09-2010, 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=MMC Racing;436025]Stand alone cost - $3000 installed
Extra tuning - $800
The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless

QUOTE]

Agreed on stand alone in terms of cost, personally I would not go that route if I did there are only a couple of units I would personally consider.
I would reflash a stock ECU everytime generally (with a reflash that is easily removed , i.e. uninstalled if needed) but stand alones do have benefits in terms of add on module support, EBCS direct control , WBo2, EGT etc etc

03-09-2010, 04:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 19	[QUOTE=MMC Racing;436025]Stand alone cost - $3000 installed Extra tuning - $800 The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless QUOTE] Agreed on stand alone in terms of cost, personally I would not go that route if I did there are only a couple of units I would personally consider. I would reflash a stock ECU everytime generally (with a reflash that is easily removed , i.e. uninstalled if needed) but stand alones do have benefits in terms of add on module support, EBCS direct control , WBo2, EGT etc etc __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

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03-09-2010, 07:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
MMC Racing Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 661 Drives: 2015 GT-R Rep Power: 18	Stand alone cost - $3000 installed Extra tuning - $800 The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless A direct comparison to GT-R's is not apples to apples because the G/Z platform is not factory turbo, but look how far the GT-R can be taken on just the Cobb. I doubt on one of these Stage 1-3 kits that a standalone will be any safer or gain any significant power. As is often said with mods, the increased performance is from lightening your wallet.

03-09-2010, 02:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
fstrnldr Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 170 Drives: Canyonero Rep Power: 18	A good reflash will be light years ahead of a lot of the stand alone options out there with in limits. We aren't talking about some of the lame "power programmers" that were available back in the day that offer simple tuning options. We are talking about being able to reprogram all or 90%+ of the factory parameters. In this situation until you are well beyond what the factory sensors (mainly maf/map) can handle in terms of airflow, you will probably be better off with a stock ECU on a reflash. When the time may come that the mafs just aren't able to meter the much larger volume of air coming into the motor, or you need so much fuel that your injectors are too large to be able to idle well w/ in the stock ecus capability, or similar, then a stand alone is going to be the better option. However to achieve the same level of driveability, plan to spend some time, and some money. The factory ECU can compensate for almost any change in atmospheric conditions, duplicating this ability w/ the tables offered in most stand alone options is where a good tuner with experience will shine.