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Jamaica 03-06-2011 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 972445)
This is real simple. Sam made a post in this thread over a year ago that they were going for CARB cert. If they never said that or if they just make a post saying "hey, this is really really low priority for us, don't expect it anytime soon", then these last few posts don't even happen.

Everyone with a brain knows Sam is busy. I never disputed that. If you take a reread over what I posted, you'll realize that.

Lastly, 1 in 9 people in the US live in California. It is not like 1 out of 50 which is the mindset people seem to take. There is no more important single market for import parts in the US.

This could go 5 pages with the exact same thing, so I'll just leave it at this.. Sam, could you update your post on page 1 in reference to CARB certification? Thanks.


If you want a carb legal kit that bad, A simple call to Sam will justify the issues and concerns you may have.

christian370z 03-06-2011 03:02 PM
Honestly, when I am in the market for an SC kit, buying a kit that is CARB approved would be great but I would still get forced induction regardless of whether it is certified or not.

Jamaica 03-06-2011 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 972470)
Honestly, when I am in the market for an SC kit, buying a kit that is CARB approved would be great but I would still get forced induction regardless of whether it is certified or not.
exactly..

daisuke149 03-06-2011 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 972390)
You aren't a business person are you? I know exactly what Sam is doing and that is putting his energy where he feels the most profit is. This is smart business. This is EXACTLY the place people need to speak up so Sam knows that maybe the market for CARB legal kit is bigger than he thought and just maybe he'll prioritize some time to serving that market.

In the software world we call this FUD. 1 year ago the Stillen kit was a strong potential competitor and they were advertising that they would get CARB certified. Sam didn't want to give Stillen that competitive advantage in the largest market for sales and said they too would get certified. Sam even posted later that GTM would have their certification first. Well the Stillen kit turned out to be a weak competitor and it appears to me that CARB certification at GTM is on the back burner.
sigh

yes im not a business person because i said "GTM shouldnt worry about a small market and work on their bigger market."

which is what you said in different words

so your the best business man

im not

congrats

! yay

christian370z 03-06-2011 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 972488)
so your the best business man

im not

congrats

! yay
I don't think you can show your face here ever again, only the best are allowed in this wolf pack. :p

daisuke149 03-06-2011 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 972494)
I don't think you can show your face here ever again, only the best are allowed in this wolf pack. :p
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/...0ea7ebaa_z.jpg

Phimosis 03-07-2011 12:59 PM
If this CARB cert conversation was happening in the Stillen S/C thread, everyone would be bashing Stillen for letting everyone down, once again. As opposed to what happens here; many forum members fiercly protect GTM and bashes any forum member that should question GTM's motives or actions.

tomnavone 03-07-2011 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 973857)
If this CARB cert conversation was happening in the Stillen S/C thread, everyone would be bashing Stillen for letting everyone down, once again. As opposed to what happens here; many forum members fiercly protect GTM and bashes any forum member that should question GTM's motives or actions.
Because gtm stands behind their products

DannyGT 03-08-2011 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 973857)
If this CARB cert conversation was happening in the Stillen S/C thread, everyone would be bashing Stillen for letting everyone down, once again. As opposed to what happens here; many forum members fiercly protect GTM and bashes any forum member that should question GTM's motives or actions.
Phim, don’t forget Stillen has done the Carb thing a lot longer than GTM so they already know all the in's and out's. I'm sure it's a longer process than even they anticipated. However, looking at the products and seeing what has unfolded over the last couple of months, there is no question GTM is in a solid position to take the time they need.

Carb is what, 5% of sales? When it comes to R&D and everything else they are developing, it can take a back seat.

This G37/Z thing is their world, Stillen and their fan boys are just living in it. /lawlz

MMC Racing 03-10-2011 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyGT (Post 975317)
However, looking at the products and seeing what has unfolded over the last couple of months, there is no question GTM is in a solid position to take the time they need.
What does this even mean? Since Stillen has flopped so hard, GTM can continue to take their time because they know people will wait for it?

biggersNISMO 03-10-2011 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 979117)
What does this even mean? Since Stillen has flopped so hard, GTM can continue to take their time because they know people will wait for it?
Yes. :tup: Yes indeed. :tiphat:

For my purposes only (i have a Business Startegy/Practices class i have to take opinions for), pm me what you think GTM should do... If you don't want to, thats fine good sir. :happydance:

SAM@GTM 03-13-2011 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 972390)
You aren't a business person are you? I know exactly what Sam is doing and that is putting his energy where he feels the most profit is. This is smart business. This is EXACTLY the place people need to speak up so Sam knows that maybe the market for CARB legal kit is bigger than he thought and just maybe he'll prioritize some time to serving that market.

In the software world we call this FUD. 1 year ago the Stillen kit was a strong potential competitor and they were advertising that they would get CARB certified. Sam didn't want to give Stillen that competitive advantage in the largest market for sales and said they too would get certified. Sam even posted later that GTM would have their certification first. Well the Stillen kit turned out to be a weak competitor and it appears to me that CARB certification at GTM is on the back burner.
The Carb cert is more important for us then ever, Not because of California sales, it plays much bigger roll for us then that. Can't say much right now but you will see very soon.

The process is very slow i agree, we have it on auto pilot and pretty much letting it take its own course.

All i can say it is going to happen.

Sam

dwntwnall4u 03-13-2011 07:20 PM
So if I get the GTM SC now and then you get CARB certified later would my kit qualify under the CARB?

christian370z 03-13-2011 08:13 PM
Sam, you should stop by here more often I think. :)

1slow370 03-13-2011 09:09 PM
Sam doesn't play games he just sweats win


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