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MMC Racing 03-03-2010 12:09 PM

To the MPG question, when we put the Vortech kit on our 350z, we lost about 2 MPG in normal 60 mile per day commuting.. This was the standard 1/4 side streets and 3/4 stop and go highway traffic.

SAM@GTM 03-03-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 427112)
$200/hr is the standard shop rate?

Our shop rate is 129 per hour here is the brake down .

-Super charger install time 11 hours

-Fuel system 3 hours

-Dyno time befor and after 2 hours

That is a total of 16 hours. hope this make sense

Sam

shumby 03-03-2010 12:18 PM

sam still waiting to hear from you. if the lead time is 30-60 days i got to get on this.

SAM@GTM 03-03-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 427130)
sam still waiting to hear from you. if the lead time is 30-60 days i got to get on this.

Pm sent.

Sam

shumby 03-03-2010 12:44 PM

:excited: PM sent back awaiting your email:excited:

nixxer 03-03-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 426490)
Millage is related to how aggressive you drive you car, so for example if you are the type that like bouncing off the rev limiter all the time you MPG will be effected greatly. On the other hand if you can stay off the boost your gas millage will be the same or better. below is you factory ecu air fuel ratio target map as you can see the 14.7 cell is where the ecu will target that to get you the best MGP so it does not mater whether you have a twin turbo or a super charger kit the ecu does not care , You will still get a good MGP providing you drive the car decent most of the time and also providing your car is tuned correctly. So for a daily driver car you will be just fine .

Sam


Hope I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this chart. Can someone explain how to interpret this?

209Z 03-03-2010 01:04 PM

Sold I want it. Pm me sam when you have the chance.

live2themaxuk 03-03-2010 02:04 PM

Sam

Great work.

Will this fit Right Hand Drive cars to you think? Are there going to be any major obstacles in regards to fitment? Im sure there will be alot of ppl in the UK/Auz/japan who would be interested in this

regards

Jamie

SAM@GTM 03-03-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by live2themaxuk (Post 427295)
Sam

Great work.

Will this fit Right Hand Drive cars to you think? Are there going to be any major obstacles in regards to fitment? Im sure there will be alot of ppl in the UK/Auz/japan who would be interested in this

regards

Jamie

We have dealt with that in our turbo kit so we know all bout it, so yes Our supercharger kit will fit on a right hand drive car

Sam

Kastley85891 03-03-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hngonzalez (Post 427169)
Hope I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this chart. Can someone explain how to interpret this?

Engine rpm right hand column
Injector latency/ engine load / etc etc (which ever software you are using ) - top row
Cross ref fuel targets - down and right 14:7.1 = 1 Lambda (leaner) 11:5.1 = richer.
ECU uses front o2 sensor in closed loop to adjust fuel trims to make target, generally ECU's will have switch over points from closed loop to open loop , usually open loop will be the meatier fueled/higher load areas of the map.
Generally you will run leaner fuel, obviously for idle, partial throttle, cruise loads etc, then have a smooth transition in high load areas to make best power safely, tuners usually throw a little more fuel in at higher rpm on higher load cells to help with knock retention.



Basic but should help.

I beleive the Z fueling algorithm is more of a CL system for all, from my experience it seems to hit target pretty well.

Heres an edit from my turbo charged E85 running vehicles fuel map, this one uses rpm and direct engine load for cell target fueling, hope this makes things clearer, this ECU did have a deddicated switch point from CL to OL fueling.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...st/e85fuel.jpg

Heres is stock rom in COBB format for the Z, this is Lambda based not AFR , same theory though.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...COBBtables.jpg


Back on track - Sam that install rate and timeline is very resonable, seems like a real sound product here. good job

SAM@GTM 03-03-2010 03:59 PM

To make the process a little easier we added the supercharge kit to our website with the giving the option to chose between black or blue couplers, powder coating the piping and Thermo coating on the intercooler

Here is a link

GTM Motorsports*::*FORCED INDUCTION*::*Supercharger Kits*::*GTM 370Z SUPERCHARGER KIT

and some pics of the piping and the intercooler coating


Sam


209Z 03-03-2010 04:03 PM

mmm black powdercoated piping is what I want =].

MMC Racing 03-03-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 427121)
Our shop rate is 129 per hour here is the brake down .

-Super charger install time 11 hours

-Fuel system 3 hours

-Dyno time befor and after 2 hours

That is a total of 16 hours. hope this make sense

Sam

As a gauge to compare against, what time do you quote to install a full Vortech kit on a 350z?

Buddy Revell 03-03-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 209Z (Post 427544)
mmm black powdercoated piping is what I want =].

Agreed. The black piping looks sick.:tup:

LiquidZ 03-03-2010 04:49 PM

What's the benefit of putting a thermal coating on your intercooler? I thought the point of thermal coating was to keep the heat in, hence why people put them on turbo components and headers. Wouldn't that negate the purpose of having an intercooler (heat exchanger)?

Is this a different type of coating?


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