New Z or TT my 370?

Spooler · 07-26-2022, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

And the childish woke come for Spooler! This thread is cancelled in five, four, thr... oh wait I forgot, the concept of numbers are/is/they colonialism.

They have been after me for the last 3 years. Nothing new. LMAO!!!

370Z944 · 07-26-2022, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

And the childish woke come for Spooler! This thread is cancelled in five, four, thr... oh wait I forgot, the concept of numbers are/is/they colonialism.

I'm woke? Oh man, I'm just learning all kinds of things about myself that I never knew. From strangers that I have never met me on an internet forum too.

Seems someone has regrets about their Biden vote? Was it the fence, or the grab 'em by the puzzy" that triggered ya?

Rusty · 07-26-2022, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z944

Wow.. ok.

Thanks for such a technical, and concise refutation. Funny, cause I've literally never had a facebook account. 23 years later after finding out about it from a from a friend that was attending upenn at the time. Was pretty obvious from day one.

LMAO. So far you've told me nothing thats not easily modded. Bigger head studs.. cool, bro. Oooh, ahh. lol Makes sense.. boosted motor. That's why they make these things called a tap & die. Bigger bored out threads=bigger studs. Pattern is same, coolant passages are same. There were people like you on rennlist when I first did this with my 94I grafted a 951 top end to a s2 bottom end, and 968 crank, with a 2.7 89 944 head with proper passages that lined up with the 951 intake that connected to all the upstream turbo goodies. It's not possible they said, very few have done it right, it will be too expensive, blah blah Now there are likely over 100 3.0 builds in the wild, and an entire registry for them on rennlist.

Don't worry, sweety. I'll probably start a thread about the build just to see if you're right or wrong once I actually go down that rabbit hole. Once the 44 is done. I'll probably get a 4x4 and the nissan will get the proper treatment too now that the warranty is up. should be done by fall.

I'm figuring someone around here knows the nuances already. I'm still not seeing any reason why not. Then again, I'm just a "dumb butt". What would I know? That must be the case. That's all the convincing I need.

I like to know what in the hell you are smoking. Because it's killing your brain cells. Spooler has done more research on the 3.7 VQ motor than anyone else I know. His first motor made over 800 HP. Second motor made over 1,000HP. Who knows what his 3rd motor will make. It's in the planning stage now. When he speaks, you better listen. The man knows his chit.

The VQ and VR motors are 2 different motors all to together. There is nothing the same. If there were. There would be a thread about it. Nothing interchanges.

370Z944 · 07-26-2022, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I like to know what in the hell you are smoking. Because it's killing your brain cells. Spooler has done more research on the 3.7 VQ motor than anyone else I know. His first motor made over 800 HP. Second motor made over 1,000HP. Who knows what his 3rd motor will make. It's in the planning stage now. When he speaks, you better listen. The man knows his chit.

The VQ and VR motors are 2 different motors all to together. There is nothing the same. If there were. There would be a thread about it. Nothing interchanges.

His response clearly is indicative of that.

I'm the one speaking gibberish? Y'all fell for it, not me. LMAO I see. I must just be dumb.

What numbers? Please, tell me.. if I can get a chem degree from AZ state, I'm pretty sure I can understand what oh so sage knowledge his highness has up in his head. Cause so far, nuh uh, pointing out the crank is different, and it has larger head studs(boosted makes sense), then stamping off, and pouting isn't saying anything. Is it o-ringed too... ooh ahh.. thats some proprietary nissan tech there. LMAO

"The VQ and VR motors are 2 different motors all to together. There is nothing the same. If there were. There would be a thread about it. Nothing interchanges."

Nothing you say? Same bore.. nearly the same stroke. If coolant passages are the same, I can almost guarantee the heads line up and the rest.

Since when do woke kids rock fire breathing turbos and no cats??? LMAO News to me.

370Z944 · 07-27-2022, 12:03 AM

Ah, I'm a dipchit and a troll.

I'm crushed. lol

Welp, that explains it. Who needs numbers? Oh, and schematics? It clearly doesn't work, a random internet guy on 370z.com said it doesn't. He made big numbers... he knows everything now. Bahahahahahaha

This is fun.

Seriously tho, why wouldn't it work? Still waiting on a valid reason.. Head studs aren't it, sorry. "it would already be a thread if it did" is not a reason.. sorry.

JARblue · 07-27-2022, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z944

I can almost guarantee

So what you're saying is you don't have a fuckin clue

filip00 · 07-27-2022, 09:38 AM

I may be the only one here, but I'm very interested to see how this VR-VQ build would go through. FWIW, 370z944 dude - please follow through your stories and ideas, start a thread and build this monster you're planning to build.
Best case scenario: you'll prove everyone wrong and we'll all learn something new. Worst case scenario, you'll waste a lot of money, learn something new and spooler will say "toldcha" and we'll all have a laugh.

Rusty · 07-27-2022, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z944

Ah, I'm a dipchit and a troll.

I'm crushed. lol

Welp, that explains it. Who needs numbers? Oh, and schematics? It clearly doesn't work, a random internet guy on 370z.com said it doesn't. He made big numbers... he knows everything now. Bahahahahahaha

This is fun.

Seriously tho, why wouldn't it work? Still waiting on a valid reason.. Head studs aren't it, sorry. "it would already be a thread if it did" is not a reason.. sorry.

Start a thread and build it. We will all be waiting on you.

Spooler · 07-27-2022, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z944

Ah, I'm a dipchit and a troll.

I'm crushed. lol

Welp, that explains it. Who needs numbers? Oh, and schematics? It clearly doesn't work, a random internet guy on 370z.com said it doesn't. He made big numbers... he knows everything now. Bahahahahahaha

This is fun.

Seriously tho, why wouldn't it work? Still waiting on a valid reason.. Head studs aren't it, sorry. "it would already be a thread if it did" is not a reason.. sorry.

One question. What is the biggest problem with the VQ37? Got to know what you are trying to correct. Otherwise, you are just another idiot trying to install GTR parts because they are better.

Elmo370z · 07-27-2022, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z944

Ah, I'm a dipchit and a troll.

I'm crushed. lol

Welp, that explains it. Who needs numbers? Oh, and schematics? It clearly doesn't work, a random internet guy on 370z.com said it doesn't. He made big numbers... he knows everything now. Bahahahahahaha

This is fun.

Seriously tho, why wouldn't it work? Still waiting on a valid reason.. Head studs aren't it, sorry. "it would already be a thread if it did" is not a reason.. sorry.

Rusty is an engineer who worked in the automotive industry. You make the VQ work with a vr38 you will be a instant millionaire. We will all be waiting for your claims to be reality.

SteveVQ · 07-27-2022, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z944

His response clearly is indicative of that.

I'm the one speaking gibberish? Y'all fell for it, not me. LMAO I see. I must just be dumb.

What numbers? Please, tell me.. if I can get a chem degree from AZ state, I'm pretty sure I can understand what oh so sage knowledge his highness has up in his head. Cause so far, nuh uh, pointing out the crank is different, and it has larger head studs(boosted makes sense), then stamping off, and pouting isn't saying anything. Is it o-ringed too... ooh ahh.. thats some proprietary nissan tech there. LMAO

"The VQ and VR motors are 2 different motors all to together. There is nothing the same. If there were. There would be a thread about it. Nothing interchanges."

Nothing you say? Same bore.. nearly the same stroke. If coolant passages are the same, I can almost guarantee the heads line up and the rest.

Since when do woke kids rock fire breathing turbos and no cats??? LMAO News to me.

370Z944 · 07-27-2022, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

So what you're saying is you don't have a fuckin clue

No, I have a clue, I just haven't been able to confirm my hypothesis. I was hoping someone here would know the bolt patterns, and other dimensions that are looking good to go on paper. I expected anecdotes, and nuh uhs. Or at least a NO, and this is why. LOL.. car forums.

This isn't my first rodeo. I make people think I'm just a dumb lowly stoner just to see who you are. LMAO y'all fell for it. Super hella tight, bruh.

So, now that we've established who has apparent biases based on anecdotal stereotypes towards weed.. hell yeah I smoke. Daily. Woke? yeah, no. LMAO My gen x *** kinda missed that whole "woke" nonsense. FFS, I voted for Donnie lol.. Waaaaay off. Some ppl have overactive minds, and cannabis is able to calm us, and slow down our brains by affecting the hippocampus. The part of the brain that affects memory. I am one of these people. I'm so dumb I tested out at 147 on Stanford–Binet. Stoned off my *** no less. LMAO

https://postimg.cc/gallery/vTK71Pm

This is my 944 turbo 3 liter 4 banger. Its a s2 block with an 89 s head, 968 crank, and a 944 turbo intake and plumbing. Ppl on rennlist said similar things when I did this one... but here it is. Parts bin frankensteins FTW!

370Z944 · 07-27-2022, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by filip00

I may be the only one here, but I'm very interested to see how this VR-VQ build would go through. FWIW, 370z944 dude - please follow through your stories and ideas, start a thread and build this monster you're planning to build.
Best case scenario: you'll prove everyone wrong and we'll all learn something new. Worst case scenario, you'll waste a lot of money, learn something new and spooler will say "toldcha" and we'll all have a laugh.

LOL. Exactly.. Pretty sure I'm right.. but I'm here to find out!

370Z944 · 07-27-2022, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Start a thread and build it. We will all be waiting on you.

Like I said... around fall. The 944 isn't finished yet. I ripped it apart for a full ground up thats almost done.

I could start a thread about what it would take now. Brainstorming, and going down the rqabbit hole I guess. It's gonna be like fall before I can start buying parts, and actually doing it tho. Of course after I've crossed all the t's and dotted i's.

370Z944 · 07-27-2022, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

One question. What is the biggest problem with the VQ37? Got to know what you are trying to correct. Otherwise, you are just another idiot trying to install GTR parts because they are better.

Who said anything was "wrong" with the vq? The VQ is great normally aspirated. Just how nissan engineered and developed it to be. It does not have boost tho, and wasn't dressed up for boost from the factory. That's the VR. I'm not correcting anything. Why plug in aftermarket crap??? Better is subjective. If they fit, they fit. I'm just looking for an OEM route to plugging in turbos. Simple as that. The vq heads likely wont line up with the intake, and not ideal for boost. I mean, if the intake lines up then you could even use the vq heads in theory. I wouldn't run a stock vq head for boost tho. I's assume nissan dressed up the heads for boost too.

I don't know what parts you guys are looking at, but the ones im seeing all share the same core parts bin so far. Dude, it's nissan, not pagani. lol Are you familiar with the FM platform/chassis? the same chassis ALL RWD nissans have? Pretty sure the GTR also uses the same chassis.. in theory I could chop it down, and build a perfect altima from it. LMAO They did not develop a custom crankcase and block for the GTR, they just dressed it up as a "VR". Also note the factory nomenclature vQ vR. That's the thing with the GTR, its priced with exotics, but it's basically just a nissan parts bin special. FFS, they haven't even changed the powertrain in what? 15 years or something? Why do you think that is? Cause it costs too much for a failing nissan who is hanging by a thread to develop a bespoke motor or even chassis for the GTR. Lot of smoke and mirrors going on at nissan.

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filip00 Track Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: slovenia Posts: 573 Drives: 370z pack Rep Power: 125428	I may be the only one here, but I'm very interested to see how this VR-VQ build would go through. FWIW, 370z944 dude - please follow through your stories and ideas, start a thread and build this monster you're planning to build. Best case scenario: you'll prove everyone wrong and we'll all learn something new. Worst case scenario, you'll waste a lot of money, learn something new and spooler will say "toldcha" and we'll all have a laugh. FL 4Motion, NecioVato, JARblue and 5 others like this.

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370Z944 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 33 Drives: 370zNismo/944 turbo Rep Power: 8	Ah, I'm a dipchit and a troll. I'm crushed. lol Welp, that explains it. Who needs numbers? Oh, and schematics? It clearly doesn't work, a random internet guy on 370z.com said it doesn't. He made big numbers... he knows everything now. Bahahahahahaha This is fun. Seriously tho, why wouldn't it work? Still waiting on a valid reason.. Head studs aren't it, sorry. "it would already be a thread if it did" is not a reason.. sorry.