Stillen v3 Blower Issue

redondoaveb · 04-20-2020, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernandez22

Ahhh okay thank you! I'll give 928 Motorsports a call tomorrow! Might just ask for the super-vortech upgrade... lol
https://928motorsports.com/parts/super_vortech.php

Talk to Carl. They did the super vortech upgrade on mine.

Chernandez22 · 04-21-2020, 03:21 PM

I've been talking to Carl. He asked about the condition on the shafts since 928 can't get replacement shafts. Then after talking with Vortech, they gave me the bad news that they are also damaged..

Apparently the pulley was changed at some point and then changed back to the original one since there's a missing seal on the pulley bolt according to Vortech. The previous owner apparently doesn't have any receipts of the work done so I'm not sure who has worked on what. v7.jpg

redondoaveb · 04-21-2020, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernandez22

I've been talking to Carl. He asked about the condition on the shafts since 928 can't get replacement shafts. Then after talking with Vortech, they gave me the bad news that they are also damaged..

Apparently the pulley was changed at some point and then changed back to the original one since there's a missing seal on the pulley bolt according to Vortech. The previous owner apparently doesn't have any receipts of the work done so I'm not sure who has worked on what. Attachment 142064

PM Topgunz per his above post. He'll work with you on getting you a new blower.

Chernandez22 · 04-21-2020, 03:48 PM

Yes we just sent each other a PM. Thanks everyone. Once this is all resolved and I get a new blower installed, what should the next steps be? Should I head over to SpecialtyZ and get it looked over? Not sure what would be a good starting point after this.

redondoaveb · 04-21-2020, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernandez22

Yes we just sent each other a PM. Thanks everyone. Once this is all resolved and I get a new blower installed, what should the next steps be? Should I head over to SpecialtyZ and get it looked over? Not sure what would be a good starting point after this.

You can never go wrong with Specialty Z. It probably wouldn't hurt to have them look it over and then tune it. Better make an appointment now. I'm not sure how busy they are right now but there's usually about a 2 month wait.

INFmstrTech · 06-03-2020, 07:41 AM

My V3 ate its own oil slinger. Bits of the slinger forge weeded themselves to the inspiration shaft gear. First I thought it was just bearings that were shot since I’m overspinning. 3.47 jackshaft and 2.95 s/c pulley. Apparently the factory vortech oil slinger is prone to failure.. 928 offers a high speed oil slinger that can take the abuse-see last picture. Anyways I used a jewelers file to get all the bits off. Put back together. And it sounds like garbage. No metal in oil no abnormal power loss just sounds like crap.

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TopgunZ · 06-03-2020, 08:09 AM

With that setup you are overspinning by 10,000rpms. That is pretty rough on things as 928 doesnt fully understand how these work.

The biggest problem with highly overspinning the unit is that the oil is not designed for this. It aerates and becomes "whipped" inside. This then creates a ton of heat and the oil cannot properly cool down the unit. So no matter what material 928 states they can put in there you will always have problems with spinning it that fast.

There is no warranty with 928. I have seen impellers blow apart from them. I have seen head units only run for 1000 miles from them.

Stay with the V3 Si and keep your warranty.

You are pulling in 15psi with that highly restrictive KN filter from my old kits. My new velocity intake can make close to that (14psi) while spinning it at safe levels and im guessing at least 17-18psi if overspinning by 10k.

04-21-2020, 03:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chernandez22 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: California Posts: 8 Drives: 14 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 6	I've been talking to Carl. He asked about the condition on the shafts since 928 can't get replacement shafts. Then after talking with Vortech, they gave me the bad news that they are also damaged.. Apparently the pulley was changed at some point and then changed back to the original one since there's a missing seal on the pulley bolt according to Vortech. The previous owner apparently doesn't have any receipts of the work done so I'm not sure who has worked on what. v7.jpg redondoaveb and "Z"en like this. Last edited by Chernandez22; 04-21-2020 at 03:21 PM. Reason: Incorrect quotes

04-21-2020, 03:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chernandez22 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: California Posts: 8 Drives: 14 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 6	Yes we just sent each other a PM. Thanks everyone. Once this is all resolved and I get a new blower installed, what should the next steps be? Should I head over to SpecialtyZ and get it looked over? Not sure what would be a good starting point after this. wideglideleon likes this.

06-03-2020, 07:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
INFmstrTech Base Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Near Frisco, TX Posts: 42 Drives: 08coupe, 07sedan Rep Power: 6743	My V3 ate its own oil slinger. Bits of the slinger forge weeded themselves to the inspiration shaft gear. First I thought it was just bearings that were shot since I’m overspinning. 3.47 jackshaft and 2.95 s/c pulley. Apparently the factory vortech oil slinger is prone to failure.. 928 offers a high speed oil slinger that can take the abuse-see last picture. Anyways I used a jewelers file to get all the bits off. Put back together. And it sounds like garbage. No metal in oil no abnormal power loss just sounds like crap. FC73859F-30F6-421A-826C-1C332C347A88.jpeg AF1460AC-B6E7-4CE4-9B0A-E59C8882D726.jpg 0D91AD12-7061-469C-ACC5-BD0BF3E9140F.jpeg E6F60342-B1C7-4955-AE9B-8EACDE620004.jpeg __________________ ‘08 coupe w/Stillen SC, Custom A2A, SD, ID1050x, e85, eagle rods, high temp coated pistons, P&P heads, JWT C2, manual swap, stage 2 clutch. EcuTek(Eugene)

06-03-2020, 08:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6835	With that setup you are overspinning by 10,000rpms. That is pretty rough on things as 928 doesnt fully understand how these work. The biggest problem with highly overspinning the unit is that the oil is not designed for this. It aerates and becomes "whipped" inside. This then creates a ton of heat and the oil cannot properly cool down the unit. So no matter what material 928 states they can put in there you will always have problems with spinning it that fast. There is no warranty with 928. I have seen impellers blow apart from them. I have seen head units only run for 1000 miles from them. Stay with the V3 Si and keep your warranty. You are pulling in 15psi with that highly restrictive KN filter from my old kits. My new velocity intake can make close to that (14psi) while spinning it at safe levels and im guessing at least 17-18psi if overspinning by 10k. Rusty, wideglideleon, elhombre and 1 others like this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM Last edited by TopgunZ; 06-03-2020 at 09:51 AM.

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