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Rusty 02-16-2019 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3825714)
You have a true bang for the buck kit. This is why I designed the whipple kit with RJM. The idea was to make going forced induction easier. Get into a kit and the kit be something you can grow into. Start out with 500-600whp and then when you want to go big you only have to worry about the motor and trans. No new supercharger, no new turbos or new housings. Just build the motor and trans and let it eat. Yeah it’s more expensive than your kit by a good margin but every component will last the life of the car! The pump is rated to a life that would equate to over 100k miles! There isn’t a “cheap” part in the kit and thus why the price is what it is. Could corners have been cut yeah but it wouldn’t be as solid of a kit. Everything was thought out from longevity to maintenance and performance. I am just glad some guys get to enjoy it and I can’t wait to do my build!
I'm waiting on your build, and what you come up with.

"Z"en 02-17-2019 01:27 AM
Different kits can not be compared. It's just someone chooses the best suited hp/tq curves he or she prefers among the kits, based on the budget. Newly developed kit requires time to make it perfect. I think the best way is to let the kit users speak for themselves.

cooltoy 02-17-2019 10:42 AM
What about the hood?

bullitt5897 02-18-2019 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3825820)
What about the hood?
I addressed this already. A body shop has had a hood for months now. We are waiting the end result like everyone else.

JARblue 02-18-2019 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ MFG (Post 3825585)
... we are insanely busy ... We are trying to expand to take on more and to focus some more on the motorsports side.

We also had several customers send us cars to work on which in hindsight we should have avoided doing. These builds have been a distraction from the core of our business.
:confused: So you're too busy to keep up with current workload and yet you are trying to expand? That doesn't sound good :eekdance:

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Originally Posted by RJ MFG (Post 3825642)
I find it funny that some of you only care about dyno numbers.
:rolleyes:

cooltoy 02-18-2019 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3826182)
I addressed this already. A body shop has had a hood for months now. We are waiting the end result like everyone else.

Time to find another body shop maybe? Most people are waiting to see what this will look like in real life before making a decision.

B&W_Evader 02-19-2019 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3825820)
What about the hood?
Wasn't there some talk about CARB too? :stirthepot:

B&W_Evader 02-19-2019 08:51 AM
I can't believe Stillen is still the only CARB kit out there.

FPenvy 02-19-2019 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3826472)
I can't believe Stillen is still the only CARB kit out there.
thats because everyone has written off Cali.

no one cares about you hippies and your green car laws anymore :bowrofl:

jwick 02-19-2019 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3826475)
thats because everyone has written off Cali.



no one cares about you hippies and your green car laws anymore :bowrofl:

Yup. Can’t even have an aftermarket exhaust. Hardly doubt they’ll ever go for a whipple sticking out of the hood.

FPenvy 02-19-2019 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3826486)
Yup. Can’t even have an aftermarket exhaust. Hardly doubt they’ll ever go for a whipple sticking out of the hood.
yeaaaaaa whenever i saw that they outlawed straws i knew it was over. :rofl2:

Rusty 02-19-2019 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3826475)
thats because everyone has written off Cali.

no one cares about you hippies and your green car laws anymore :bowrofl:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3826486)
Yup. Can’t even have an aftermarket exhaust. Hardly doubt they’ll ever go for a whipple sticking out of the hood.
The green meanies are pushing everyone into electric cars. Think the grid is weak now. Just wait. And they are shutting down power plants. The electric bill is going through the roof.

solidus 02-19-2019 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3826529)
The green meanies are pushing everyone into electric cars. Think the grid is weak now. Just wait. And they are shutting down power plants. The electric bill is going through the roof.
It's all fun n' games till you host your first Tofu ribs barbecue.

jwick 02-19-2019 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3826529)
The green meanies are pushing everyone into electric cars. Think the grid is weak now. Just wait. And they are shutting down power plants. The electric bill is going through the roof.

They always seem to ignore that the power generation is mostly driven by gas generators.

Jayhovah 02-19-2019 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3826532)
It's all fun n' games till you host your first Tofu ribs barbecue.
Is that why you didn't come to my Birthday Tofu BBQ Party?

bullitt5897 02-20-2019 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3826468)
Wasn't there some talk about CARB too? :stirthepot:
CARB is still the plan. Most people do not realize the cost to getting CARB. its $$$ and even then there are alot of stipulations and rules. RJM also has to supply a completely stock car with the whipple for testing which could take months...

1slow370 03-23-2019 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3826963)
CARB is still the plan. Most people do not realize the cost to getting CARB. its $$$ and even then there are alot of stipulations and rules. RJM also has to supply a completely stock car with the whipple for testing which could take months...
Tell me about it. When the tester rejects the kit because the vaccuum line used for the bov doesn't have the latest and greatest sae vapor retention rating. Fml on carb only way stillen gets kits through is because they are in the system already. It 10's of thousands of dollars for a company to have its first kit certified. Oh and cold starts a bitch with anything over 600cc/min injectors. That's why gtm never got their kit certified yet stillen did. Smaller injectors in the stillen carb kit are for cold starts also why it is such a **** tune out of the box to meet emissions.

bullitt5897 03-24-2019 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3836707)
Tell me about it. When the tester rejects the kit because the vaccuum line used for the bov doesn't have the latest and greatest sae vapor retention rating. Fml on carb only way stillen gets kits through is because they are in the system already. It 10's of thousands of dollars for a company to have its first kit certified. Oh and cold starts a bitch with anything over 600cc/min injectors. That's why gtm never got their kit certified yet stillen did. Smaller injectors in the stillen carb kit are for cold starts also why it is such a **** tune out of the box to meet emissions.
Your right on the cost and difficulty to get past carb but 1050x injector cold starts are oem like. There is no issue with using 1050 injectors. Stillen use of smaller injectors were cost related.

bullitt5897 03-24-2019 10:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_vTDY3l8Ds

A slight update from brad: he has a stage 1 kit with upgraded heat exchanger. He is also running a 11psi pulley. Please note these are not final nor close to final numbers. This dyno session was to gauge where he stood so that they could keep pushing the tuning. With more high rpm logging he will be over 500whp on a stock 7at. Once his supporting mods go in he will push it even further.

This is the nice thing about this kit... it’s scalable without any kind of rebuild.

gbrettin 03-24-2019 11:26 AM
That's good if he is happy. The owner doesn't have to justify anything.

Spooler 03-24-2019 12:01 PM
This kit will never pass CARB. That's just the flat out truth. You guys in Cali are just done for.

redondoaveb 03-24-2019 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3836803)
This kit will never pass CARB. That's just the flat out truth. You guys in Cali are just done for.
They have a really good tuner working with them on the CARB certification. If they have the funds, they'll get certification.Me personally, I don't care about CARB, I just don't want that thing sticking out of my hood like that.

bullitt5897 03-24-2019 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 3836800)
That's good if he is happy. The owner doesn't have to justify anything.
He has had a lot of people try to troll him... he knows these aren’t final numbers and he is just trying to be clear with people since he knows he isn’t pushing the kit. He is afraid people are going to bad mouth his build because he posted some in progress numbers.

bullitt5897 03-24-2019 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3836803)
This kit will never pass CARB. That's just the flat out truth. You guys in Cali are just done for.
How is that? You have the designs for the kit?

Spooler 03-24-2019 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3836809)
How is that? You have the designs for the kit?
LOL, it has nothing to do with that at all. It is all political. That is why it won't
pass. They will tie you up and spend all your money until you go away.

2SIC4U 03-24-2019 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3836707)
Tell me about it. When the tester rejects the kit because the vaccuum line used for the bov doesn't have the latest and greatest sae vapor retention rating. Fml on carb only way stillen gets kits through is because they are in the system already. It 10's of thousands of dollars for a company to have its first kit certified. Oh and cold starts a bitch with anything over 600cc/min injectors. That's why gtm never got their kit certified yet stillen did. Smaller injectors in the stillen carb kit are for cold starts also why it is such a **** tune out of the box to meet emissions.
That is funny as my Whipple kit has 1050cc injectors and starts up and runs smooth as butter. 0 issues with cold starts or at idle. Leave my car in out over night in 20 degrees and starts right up without any issues. It's all about that tune which it is hard to find a tuner that really knows what they are doing. Thankfully I have Eugene Turkov from Cali remote tuning my Z using ECUTEK. I car should pass carb tests with flying colors but getting through all the politics is anyones guess.

2SIC4U 04-12-2019 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3799524)
Where’s the dyno showing a torque curve for one of these things?
Build: #02
Stage 1, 4.0 pulley at 11psi.
Mod list:
Always growing and can been viewed here
https://www.facebook.com/notes/brad-...4740716057014/

Stillen Ceramic Headers
Motordyne Advanced Resonance Tuner (ART test pipes)
Stillen Stainless Steel Cat-Back Exhaust Systems - Custom Quad Tips
OMNI 4 bar tmap sensor
Tune: ECUTEK with speed density by Eugene Turkov

See attached dyno sheet. Car has since had timing added in several spots, mainly on the higher end. This was just a baseline on a heartbreak dyno to see where my build is at.

2SIC4U 04-12-2019 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by yaoxiao4 (Post 3799523)
man when this kit becomes CA legal..... my wallet will go on a diet
Install on a car in CA is coming within the next couple of weeks (from what I've been told) and that car will be used to work on getting CA carb legal.

Elmo370z 04-12-2019 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 2SIC4U (Post 3842760)
Build: #02
Stage 1, 4.0 pulley at 11psi.
Mod list:
Always growing and can been viewed here
https://www.facebook.com/notes/brad-...4740716057014/

Stillen Ceramic Headers
Motordyne Advanced Resonance Tuner (ART test pipes)
Stillen Stainless Steel Cat-Back Exhaust Systems - Custom Quad Tips
OMNI 4 bar tmap sensor
Tune: ECUTEK with speed density by Eugene Turkov

See attached dyno sheet. Car has since had timing added in several spots, mainly on the higher end. This was just a baseline on a heartbreak dyno to see where my build is at.
Numbers are disappointing, great to finally see some numbers

cooltoy 04-13-2019 08:51 PM
Are the numbers under 500 WHP because you are at 11 psi instead of 12?


Or because it's an auto?

1slow370 04-13-2019 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2SIC4U (Post 3836814)
That is funny as my Whipple kit has 1050cc injectors and starts up and runs smooth as butter. 0 issues with cold starts or at idle. Leave my car in out over night in 20 degrees and starts right up without any issues. It's all about that tune which it is hard to find a tuner that really knows what they are doing. Thankfully I have Eugene Turkov from Cali remote tuning my Z using ECUTEK. I car should pass carb tests with flying colors but getting through all the politics is anyones guess.
Really? Have you run it on a 5 gas analyzer at cold coldstart and checked it to factory emmissions levels yet?

Edit: dont forget about the $10k third party lab test fee

bullitt5897 04-14-2019 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3843277)
Are the numbers under 500 WHP because you are at 11 psi instead of 12?


Or because it's an auto?
The answer to that is the fact that this was just a baseline to see where they needed to continue working on the car tune wise. They did in fact work on top end tuning which would have netted him the 500+whp mark. They have been extremely conservative on this car and methodically working on it to slowly add power.

bullitt5897 04-14-2019 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3842786)
Numbers are disappointing, great to finally see some numbers
Remember these are NOT final numbers. So hold your disappointment lol

bullitt5897 04-24-2019 01:28 PM
Update on the Carbon Z:

May 1st is the Dyno Day to look forward to. Right now the car has a RJM "Race" 4.3L Stroker Motor and a fully built RJM trans which has been holding up fantastic. The Supercharger is a "High Pressure unit" and is running a 3.5" pulley. There is a 2.8" pulley to be put on the car for High Boost Applications. the 3.5" pulley should net somewhere around ~18psi. If my math is correct the 2.8" pulley should be approximately ~28-30psi!!!

The car has been undergoing other upgrades and fixes on work from other vendors and shops. The car is expected to be at Zdayz again this year.

I will post up any new information I get.

On a separate note I should have some updates on hood cowls next week.

wideglideleon 04-24-2019 02:34 PM
Yawn

ZontheRocks 04-24-2019 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3846251)
Update on the Carbon Z:

May 1st is the Dyno Day to look forward to. Right now the car has a RJM "Race" 4.3L Stroker Motor and a fully built RJM trans which has been holding up fantastic. The Supercharger is a "High Pressure unit" and is running a 3.5" pulley. There is a 2.8" pulley to be put on the car for High Boost Applications. the 3.5" pulley should net somewhere around ~18psi. If my math is correct the 2.8" pulley should be approximately ~28-30psi!!!
What happened to seeing the 'basic' builds?

Elmo370z 04-25-2019 09:58 AM
Still nothing but math equations, and still no hood

bullitt5897 04-25-2019 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks (Post 3846280)
What happened to seeing the 'basic' builds?
Bobby is on a flight out to California to do an install right now. Eugene is tuning the car on ecutek and we should have some numbers this weekend again on a stock car Basic build.

bullitt5897 04-25-2019 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3846564)
Still nothing but math equations, and still no hood
Again, May 1st for the Dyno and bigger numbers. Monday hopefully pictures from the body shop making the molds for the hood.

bullitt5897 04-25-2019 10:17 AM
The carbon Z is already seeing 17-18psi by 3000rpm... big advantage over other kits is boost is immediate and the power under the curve is more.


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