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bullitt5897 01-22-2020 03:07 PM

Ok so I took a few months off to focus on my family from here. Let me set some things straight...

1. I never worked for RJM.
2. I am one of the designers of the whipple kit. (There are 3 people and multiple Motorsports people who have given guidance on the design.
3. I have on rare occasions helped with their social media. I don’t access their accounts and I don’t post as RJM.
4. I have never locked any threads! NEVER!
5. I personally sought a hood solution from 4 different companies. With my own personal money! All fell through none were able to get me even a prototype. At this point I’m ******* done with it.
6. I have not taken a dime from Rich’s dealings with Bobby.
7. I do not control what RJ manufacturing or Bobby does or prioritizes.
8. I talk to Bobby multiple times a week. I remind him of Rich’s car every ******* time I call! I have been advocating to finish that car for over a year now.
9. Rich has ignored phone calls and text messages for months on end...
10. Rich without warning called me up one day after not answering phone calls or text messages and curses me out. Blames everything on me and when I try to calm him down to understand what the **** was going on he hangs up. I call back 3+ times to get vmail each time.
11. From that point on I stressed that Bobby should have daily updates on what was going on with Rich’s car because I am not responsible for that car or anything on it.
12. For months now Rich has been given daily or weekly updates on his car and build. I can show screen captures if absolutely needed.

So to be absolutely clear. RJ Manufacturing is NOT closed. They just don’t post here anymore. They are active on their Facebook page. They are not actively pushing the supercharger kit because they didn’t see the interest from the community. They are still supporting the kits out there and have a good community page for those who have a kit. If you want a kit you can still buy one.

Rich is mistaken to point all his frustration at me. I have no control over his build and never have. He paid Bobby and RJM not me... I have gone out of my way to be an absolute advocate for his build and it’s completion 100%!

I understand Rich’s frustration but he doesn’t tell Bobby this ****... he calls me yells at me. I call Bobby and put pressure on Bobby he gets updates and then I get dragged into the mud as some kind of **** bag...

The **** in this post is 110% accurate!!! I will not argue or entertain challenges to the points in this post because it’s the truth and I will not deviate from the truth. I will follow this thread but like the last few months I don’t have the time to focus on arguing here. Rich, if you have an issue with me you can call me. But if you want your car updates and **** call Bobby like I have always told you! Don’t drag me through the mud for trying to help you!

turtle64b 01-22-2020 03:24 PM

https://www.facebook.com/rjmllc/

Leave them a review here. It seems like they answer quickly!

BildoDabbins 01-22-2020 03:26 PM

Last 3 people said rjm is awful and to avoid

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turtle64b 01-22-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BildoDabbins (Post 3902745)
Last 3 people said rjm is awful and to avoid

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I saw that haha. But this one needs to go there too. And then get shared on the FB groups. Our forum here is not as widely seen or used as Facebook. I would love to see how a review and share there lights a fire.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by turtle64b (Post 3902744)
https://www.facebook.com/rjmllc/

Leave them a review here. It seems like they answer quickly!

Because yes leaving them a fraudulent review is going to make things better for everyone... * sarcasm*

Zezus 01-22-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902749)
Because yes leaving them a fraudulent review is going to make things better for everyone... * sarcasm*

nomodsjk's review doesn't sound fraudulent. it sounds like a legitimate complaint. 3 years is a LOOOOOOONG time to have someones car - especially if it still isn't done.

turtle64b 01-22-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902749)
Because yes leaving them a fraudulent review is going to make things better for everyone... * sarcasm*

Whoa, calm down haha. I am not advocating for false reviews. That comment was directed at the person who is disgruntled with them. I agree that spamming bad reviews on someone who you have not had personal dealings with is unethical.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zezus (Post 3902751)
nomodsjk's review doesn't sound fraudulent. it sounds like a legitimate complaint. 3 years is a LOOOOOOONG time to have someones car - especially if it still isn't done.

Not talking about Rich... I have already had Bobby call me about other people doing it from this thread. The only reason I am here is because I was told I was being drug through the mud... otherwise I would be elsewhere...

cv129 01-22-2020 03:56 PM

Bullitt, are you currently invested in, or a shareholder/part owner/debtor of RJ Manufacturing? Are you currently in a business venture with Bobby?

Other than the SC kit and the hood that you mentioned, are you involved in the subsequent products? Like the VR stuff that’s going on right now.

You seemed to be distancing yourself from RJ Manufacturing with the latest post, which contradicts your historical position. We would appreciate if you can clarify your financial position in RJ Manufacturing, if any.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zezus (Post 3902751)
nomodsjk's review doesn't sound fraudulent. it sounds like a legitimate complaint. 3 years is a LOOOOOOONG time to have someones car - especially if it still isn't done.

Another point... Rich’s car was mechanically done almost a year ago. The only issue is getting a tuner who knows what they are doing to tune his car. His car runs and drives right now.... was driven to the dyno multiple times already. But no one knows that part of the story... no one knows his car was built in stages... not everything was put out in the public. This is what irks me about rash judgements...

turtle64b 01-22-2020 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902753)
Not talking about Rich... I have already had Bobby call me about other people doing it from this thread. The only reason I am here is because I was told I was being drug through the mud... otherwise I would be elsewhere...

I understand that you're frustrated with the whole situation, but it seems as though you voluntarily made yourself a go-between. While you have nothing to do with the build itself, you involved yourself in the process, for better, for worse.

I'm a huge fan of the truth and I hope it comes out, along with some transparency with getting Rich's car back and settling things. Then again, there's nothing really owed us here, but truth, transparency and reconciliation will be the way to get back in to the good graces of the community. Lack of that only leads to more frustration, name calling, and smearing, whether fully backed by truth or not.

People are going to be angry and frustrated with you as long as RJM is absent from the forum since you established yourself as their poster-boy, no offense intended.

turtle64b 01-22-2020 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902756)
Another point... Rich’s car was mechanically done almost a year ago. The only issue is getting a tuner who knows what they are doing to tune his car. His car runs and drives right now.... was driven to the dyno multiple times already. But no one knows that part of the story... no one knows his car was built in stages... not everything was put out in the public. This is what irks me about rash judgements...

See, that's the thing right there, YOU DO know what's going on. That's not implying that you're not sharing for whatever reason, but cementing my point that you put yourself in this position.

With regard to the tuner piece, please don't say trying to find a tuner..... Who's been tuning all the Whipple cars? Use one of those guys. There are videos of a Whipple Z doing donuts and racing, who tuned that one?

Sure, stages of builds take time, but nobody gets angry over nothing. Anger is a result of unmet expectations. 3 years is a very long time.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3902755)
Bullitt, are you currently invested in, or a shareholder/part owner/debtor of RJ Manufacturing? Are you currently in a business venture with Bobby?

Other than the SC kit and the hood that you mentioned, are you involved in the subsequent products? Like the VR stuff that’s going on right now.

You seemed to be distancing yourself from RJ Manufacturing with the latest post, which contradicts your historical position. We would appreciate if you can clarify your financial position in RJ Manufacturing.

I am not nor have I ever been an investor/part owner/debtor of RJM. I am not distancing myself from RJM at all. I am merely clarifying the reality of my relationship with RJM.

As for the VR30 stuff. I have designed nearly everything for that platform. A simple Facebook search would showcase that. I design the parts as a service, multiple third parties are testing them independently as a service and RJM is manufacturing them.

As for the financials. I am not an employee nor do I collect a paycheck/salary from RJM. Do I get compensated for My designs or design work? Yes, however the details of that arrangement are confidential.

I have over the years become friends with Bobby and I respect him and what he has built and accomplished with RJM. I will continue to support him and his company as he is a very stand up and straight forward honest person. I hope this is clear enough for you.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtle64b (Post 3902758)
See, that's the thing right there, YOU DO know what's going on. That's not implying that you're not sharing for whatever reason, but cementing my point that you put yourself in this position.

With regard to the tuner piece, please don't say trying to find a tuner..... Who's been tuning all the Whipple cars? Use one of those guys. There are videos of a Whipple Z doing donuts and racing, who tuned that one?

Sure, stages of builds take time, but nobody gets angry over nothing. Anger is a result of unmet expectations. 3 years is a very long time.

I never said I don’t know what’s going on. I have always admitted to knowing what’s going on with Rich’s car. I even mentioned being an advocate of his car being finished and 100%. There were multiple times Bobby could have handed the car over and claimed the scope of work done. But the optics and the moral dilemma would be dishonest and bad to put it lightly. Bobby has chosen to make sure this car is 100% reliable before turning it over. As for the tuner comment. The number one response Bobby has gotten is that the tuner is afraid of the car... you can only tune so much on the dyno. Road tubing and reliability in my experience go hand in hand. I have been in Rich’s car it is fast and on this built motor and smaller pulley it is mind melting fast! The car doesn’t do slow... so when a tuner says they are scared of the car I believe it! For the last few months a tuner out of California has been remote tuning the car. Bobby has been trying to lock down a date for the tuner to be flown in at Bobby’s expense and finish the tune. That date is already set... Part of the delay from my understanding is to tune two cars in a single visit as well as fitting around two customers schedules, the dyno’s schedule and Bobby’s schedule....

Most of you haven’t been in one of these cars so you can’t comprehend the performance of this kit. You guys also haven’t been in Rich’s car which is an absolute beast! Rich has one of the most powerful whipple kits to date. His tq curve is flat as well as being 7At and on a stroker motor! If the driver felt so inclined just a flick of the foot (partial throttle) and the car could easily do donuts. The car can very well be dangerous in the hands of an unskilled driver. I can completely see why Bobby has had issues getting the tune finalized. Luckily he has a great tuner who is up to the challenge! The car is literally like 80% done with the tune! Rich gets daily if not weekly updates whether he responds or not.

2011 Nismo#91 01-22-2020 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902737)
1. I never worked for RJM.
2. I am one of the designers of the whipple kit. (There are 3 people and multiple Motorsports people who have given guidance on the design.
3. I have on rare occasions helped with their social media. I don’t access their accounts and I don’t post as RJM.
4. I have never locked any threads! NEVER!
5. I personally sought a hood solution from 4 different companies. With my own personal money! All fell through none were able to get me even a prototype. At this point I’m ******* done with it.
6. I have not taken a dime from Rich’s dealings with Bobby.
7. I do not control what RJ manufacturing or Bobby does or prioritizes.
8. I talk to Bobby multiple times a week. I remind him of Rich’s car every ******* time I call! I have been advocating to finish that car for over a year now.
9. Rich has ignored phone calls and text messages for months on end...
10. Rich without warning called me up one day after not answering phone calls or text messages and curses me out. Blames everything on me and when I try to calm him down to understand what the **** was going on he hangs up. I call back 3+ times to get vmail each time.
11. From that point on I stressed that Bobby should have daily updates on what was going on with Rich’s car because I am not responsible for that car or anything on it.
12. For months now Rich has been given daily or weekly updates on his car and build. I can show screen captures if absolutely needed.

So to be absolutely clear. RJ Manufacturing is NOT closed. They just don’t post here anymore. They are active on their Facebook page. They are not actively pushing the supercharger kit because they didn’t see the interest from the community. They are still supporting the kits out there and have a good community page for those who have a kit. If you want a kit you can still buy one.

Rich is mistaken to point all his frustration at me. I have no control over his build and never have. He paid Bobby and RJM not me... I have gone out of my way to be an absolute advocate for his build and it’s completion 100%!

I understand Rich’s frustration but he doesn’t tell Bobby this ****... he calls me yells at me. I call Bobby and put pressure on Bobby he gets updates and then I get dragged into the mud as some kind of **** bag...

The **** in this post is 110% accurate!!! I will not argue or entertain challenges to the points in this post because it’s the truth and I will not deviate from the truth. I will follow this thread but like the last few months I don’t have the time to focus on arguing here. Rich, if you have an issue with me you can call me. But if you want your car updates and **** call Bobby like I have always told you! Don’t drag me through the mud for trying to help you!

Oh FFS stop lying. You said you were working for/with RJM and Bobby. Working on the design, working on suppliers, and working sites like this to generate interest. Time and time again you defend shops screwing over people who have spent thousands and thousands of dollars even when it's blatantly obvious they are stealing peoples money and are going to court to get their money back. Only an idiot would believe you are not getting any money out of it or some other "quid pro quo". Your in the mud because you laid down in it with the people who live there.

OptionZero 01-22-2020 05:08 PM

Why is the car still at this shop?

Bring a truck and physically take the car back.
Then serve them with a lawsuit.
Make them account for every dollar they've taken, in writing.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3902762)
Oh FFS stop lying. You said you were working for/with RJM and Bobby. Working on the design, working on suppliers, and working sites like this to generate interest. Time and time again you defend shops screwing over people who have spent thousands and thousands of dollars even when it's blatantly obvious they are stealing peoples money and are going to court to get their money back. Only an idiot would believe you are not getting any money out of it or some other "quid pro quo". Your in the mud because you laid down in it with the people who live there.

I have not once said I work for RJM. I have helped them develop this kit... I have never denied that. I do design parts and they do use my services in that regard. Designing kits and parts requires doing due diligence with suppliers and vendors to understand what is feasible and what is not.

RJM isn’t screwing anyone over. This notion that they are taking money and running is absurd and lacks any factual basis! You are clearly misinformed and biased based of your skewed view.

For a matter of clarity I did not get paid for the RJM whipple kit and my design work. I took it as a learning experience and a fun project. I can back that up financially if anyone decides to hit me with some frivolous lawsuit! So before you go and liable someone make sure you know your facts!

All you are doing is spewing toxic lies that have no basis in reality!

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3902764)
Why is the car still at this shop?

Bring a truck and physically take the car back.
Then serve them with a lawsuit.
Make them account for every dollar they've taken, in writing.

Because the car is actively being worked on and progress being made for months with daily and weekly updates... that’s why...

hc_416 01-22-2020 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902768)
I have not once said I work for RJM. I have helped them develop this kit... I have never denied that. I do design parts and they do use my services in that regard. Designing kits and parts requires doing due diligence with suppliers and vendors to understand what is feasible and what is not.

RJM isn’t screwing anyone over. This notion that they are taking money and running is absurd and lacks any factual basis! You are clearly misinformed and biased based of your skewed view.

For a matter of clarity I did not get paid for the RJM whipple kit and my design work. I took it as a learning experience and a fun project. I can back that up financially if anyone decides to hit me with some frivolous lawsuit! So before you go and liable someone make sure you know your facts!

All you are doing is spewing toxic lies that have no basis in reality!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902771)
Because the car is actively being worked on and progress being made for months with daily and weekly updates... that’s why...

So if you don't work for them.... how do you know about the updates? That is a straight up lie. Also it doesn't take three years to build any car.... If you look back at my thread you see i have had my share of problems but never three years wait. Its time to get your car back, copy this thread since "they are making progress daily." and bring him to court, if you are making progress show it in the court. I hate loud mouth liers.

2011 Nismo#91 01-22-2020 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902768)
I have not once said I work for RJM. I have helped them develop this kit... I have never denied that. I do design parts and they do use my services in that regard. Designing kits and parts requires doing due diligence with suppliers and vendors to understand what is feasible and what is not.

RJM isn’t screwing anyone over. This notion that they are taking money and running is absurd and lacks any factual basis! You are clearly misinformed and biased based of your skewed view.

For a matter of clarity I did not get paid for the RJM whipple kit and my design work. I took it as a learning experience and a fun project. I can back that up financially if anyone decides to hit me with some frivolous lawsuit! So before you go and liable someone make sure you know your facts!

All you are doing is spewing toxic lies that have no basis in reality!

Your a spokes person that gets paid in parts and labor to represent RJM.
http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ml#post3611780
You are known the be the mouth piece here for RJM and Bobby. Your just making yourself into a bigger liar.

BildoDabbins 01-22-2020 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902771)
Because the car is actively being worked on and progress being made for months with daily and weekly updates... that’s why...

If that's the case how is there only one picture of the kit on this thread which is the carbon Z I don't want to get into something I'm not invested in but this poor guy has gone 3 years without his car. How has nobody posted some sort of picture of anything. And quit the Facebook is where we post everything because everyone on Facebook is saying RJM is full of crooks. You are a grown man with a phone take some damn pictures or request this Bobby guy send some damn pictures. You're acting like we are pulling teeth just trying to get simple things answered like nobody even knows what the car looks like but he's been getting updates daily? Bud now come on

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OptionZero 01-22-2020 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902771)
Because the car is actively being worked on and progress being made for months with daily and weekly updates... that’s why...

It's been 3 years tho, how is that "actively being worked on?

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3902781)
So if you don't work for them.... how do you know about the updates? That is a straight up lie. Also it doesn't take three years to build any car.... If you look back at my thread you see i have had my share of problems but never three years wait. Its time to get your car back, copy this thread since "they are making progress daily." and bring him to court, if you are making progress show it in the court. I hate loud mouth liers.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit I take it. I will say it again. I am on the group messages between Bobby and Rich! I talk to Bobby multiple times a week! That’s how I know what’s going on! I advocate for rich to make sure his car is worked on. Don’t believe me call RJM and ask! Dude my car was at GTM for five years!!!! People have no clue what went down with GTM because they didn’t have the balls to call to pester them and find out what was going on. Sam at GTM didn’t share his health condition to anyone and once I found out what was going on I got dozens of people their money back and or parts in lieu of funds... I lost tens of thousands of dollars to GTM and got a car back that barely ran! Their top of the line everything and I had to strip it down and rebuild it myself! Made 998whp on that kit in the dead heat of summer after rebuilding it myself. I vowed I wouldn’t let that happen again to me or any of my friends. Rich reached out to me for advise and so I took it as a moral prerogative to help make sure he didn’t fall into the same thing I did as best I could and as much pull I could do. And guess what he hasn’t! You have very little knowledge of everything that has gone on with the car or the time Rich took the car home for a few months and shipped it back down or the extra work that has gone into the car at no charge or the fact I gave him my personal parts to get his car running on multiple occasions. Including as recently his ecutek products.... to get him tuned correctly. Did I get paid for that? NO! I did that out of compassion for how long his build has taken. It was a gift! So before you go bashing me tell me who in this community you gave hundreds of dollars of product to for free?!? I will wait!

-ZS-Carpenter 01-22-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3902791)
It's been 3 years tho, how is that "actively being worked on?

AND been "mechanically done" for a year. That car could have been towed to every VQ tunner in the nation in that time

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3902791)
It's been 3 years tho, how is that "actively being worked on?

Multiple shops, vendors have all worked on this car. Right now the car is having a new starter ring being installed on his flex plate because the screws backed out of his last one. Everything is being double and triple checked, balanced and verified by a transmission shop. Once done it’s reinstalled. New smaller pulleys are being made for his setup and more boost. His low compression motor wants more boost so a smaller pulley needs to be made for the street. The 3.5” was only making 12psi of boost and we want it in the 15-16psi range for the street. He already has a 2.8” pulley that’s been made for big boost but is too violent for the street... every effort is being made to make sure this car is 100% safe and reliable.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3902793)
AND been "mechanically done" for a year. That car could have been towed to every VQ tunner in the nation in that time

How many tuners do you know have tuned a whipple 370z? Hint there are about 3-4 and of those 2 didn’t feel comfortable tuning the car, 1 didn’t want to push the car, and the last one is working on the car now and has done as much as he can remotely and wants to be onsite to safely push the car.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 06:26 PM

Hint for 6 months Bobby tried to get 1 tuner to push the car but he wouldn’t. So a change was made last fall and a lot of progress has been made tuning wise.

Elmo370z 01-22-2020 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 3901954)
Mike locked it because he doesn't want me to tell his little secret about that thread....every time "RJM" responded it was mike.

Explain this

Elmo370z 01-22-2020 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 3901964)
Mike is a special type of scumbag. The only use for the truth that he has is using pieces of it to paint a larger deception. He certainly doesn't value the truth.

Or this???

Elmo370z 01-22-2020 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 3902498)
I have so much I want to say and I'll say it soon. Honestly I've tried several times but my hands shake so bad I cant type. I've lost countless nights sleep over this. I stay up at 330am thinking about it. Me and everyone who got involved in this project regrets it 100% and we've all been too afraid to say anything publicly for fear our projects will be sabotaged or completely shelved. I'm done being quite. I feel raped.

Mmm....

Elmo370z 01-22-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 3902674)
That's the type of thinking that got me to wait 3yrs. If they sabotage my car because I had the audacity to call b.s. after 3yrs then so be it. The final results of my car will be made public for all to see either way. If they return my car and it's everything I paid for then I'll be the first to admit it but everything I've seen and heard in the past 3yrs leads me to believe that I got raped.

You got your hands full bullet

hc_416 01-22-2020 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3902792)
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit I take it. I will say it again. I am on the group messages between Bobby and Rich! I talk to Bobby multiple times a week! That’s how I know what’s going on! I advocate for rich to make sure his car is worked on. Don’t believe me call RJM and ask! Dude my car was at GTM for five years!!!! People have no clue what went down with GTM because they didn’t have the balls to call to pester them and find out what was going on. Sam at GTM didn’t share his health condition to anyone and once I found out what was going on I got dozens of people their money back and or parts in lieu of funds... I lost tens of thousands of dollars to GTM and got a car back that barely ran! Their top of the line everything and I had to strip it down and rebuild it myself! Made 998whp on that kit in the dead heat of summer after rebuilding it myself. I vowed I wouldn’t let that happen again to me or any of my friends. Rich reached out to me for advise and so I took it as a moral prerogative to help make sure he didn’t fall into the same thing I did as best I could and as much pull I could do. And guess what he hasn’t! You have very little knowledge of everything that has gone on with the car or the time Rich took the car home for a few months and shipped it back down or the extra work that has gone into the car at no charge or the fact I gave him my personal parts to get his car running on multiple occasions. Including as recently his ecutek products.... to get him tuned correctly. Did I get paid for that? NO! I did that out of compassion for how long his build has taken. It was a gift! So before you go bashing me tell me who in this community you gave hundreds of dollars of product to for free?!? I will wait!

My point exactly; you are working with him so you are a liar, point blank.

1. No one cares your car was there for "five years"

2 Just so you know people that do goodness out of there heart don't need to brag about it or say stuff like "I gave hundred of dollars of work for free," that just sounds like your trying to save you name on the forums because you made a bad choice to help rjm/back/work with. It happens we get it.

3. Go read my thread you can see many people have given me free advice and free work/parts to help me out.

4. Why again are you in a group message about his car? Are you a middle man? that means OH your working for him! and why aren't you telling this j*rk off he wants his car back so he can go to different shop. The guy sounds like he is depressed and getting ripped off hard.

5. Why has the 370z not banned and followed up with with bobby, RJM, or bullsh*t. The last time this happened guys got banned and kicked off the forum.

6. Just so you know rjm is not the victim and has not done what thy were paid for by the customer, on top of making the OP seem like it is his fault that the car is broken... god bless with this type of "help".

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3902800)
Explain this

Admins locked the thread I didn’t. I may even have the pm from where they notified me they locked it because Rjm was no longer a paid vendor...

Elmo370z 01-22-2020 06:42 PM

That doesn’t raise any eyebrows

Elmo370z 01-22-2020 06:44 PM

Rich is about to spill the beans on you and Bobby.

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3902801)
Or this???

Again I don’t know why he is painting me with this brush... I know he is frustrated with another build I have absolutely nothing to do with and neither does RJM. He has admitted to me personally that that build has been a point of frustration that has leached over into this one because of the proximity of the cars and shops involved. Again no one in the public has any idea of what has gone on... Rich is frustrated I get it but I have been extremely transparent even if he didn’t like the news I gave him. Bobby has also been transparent...

I can’t speak for his motivation to say that however I can give my impression which is he is lashing out publicly a frustration he hasn’t once expressed to Bobby or Rjm. He has lashed out to me once! It had his desired effect I snapped at Bobby and he got what he wanted...

I will say this I haven’t been on her active for a while. Why would I come in here and lie... take time and attention away from my family to carry on some sort of charade... it doesn’t benefit me at all and I am not that vain. I have moved on and have been seriously talking about selling my Z for the last 6 months... I have no time for it and I have other priorities and projects to do. So for me to come here and lay this all out is just to be truthful not to make up ****. I have texts and screen caps if needed. If he chooses to file a lawsuit against me it won’t go very far...

bullitt5897 01-22-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3902807)
Rich is about to spill the beans on you and Bobby.

I’ve got nothing to hide...

turtle64b 01-22-2020 06:56 PM

I feel like this is going to spiral out of control and everyone is going to shut down here. I ask that we stick to facts here regarding what is transpiring with this build.

Ideally Bobby (or RJM) will respond here since his company's honor is being questioned. If that won't happen, then Mike (bullitt, I'm assuming), you are our conduit, really. You did put yourself in this light, you stated that you stand behind Bobby and RJM, so that is why you are being treated as if you work for them, even if it is only in a consultation manner.

Rich (I'm assuming Nomo), I would ask that you make the post that you have been waiting to make. This will allow response.

Again, I would ask that questions or criticisms not be directed at personal character attacks and try to get to the bottom of the facts.

cv129 01-22-2020 06:59 PM

Why isn’t Bobby here offering any explanation?

Jayhovah 01-22-2020 07:02 PM

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