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i like what some are saying and hate what others are saying.... Let's just all say we'll pay 4500 right now... so then Stillen: you guys can mark that up to like $5000-$5500 or so with 100-150 hp!
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yep, might be out of my range sadly if those numbers are accurate.
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It will not be cheap, but it will be cheaper than a TT kit I think.
Base TT kits for the Z are above 10k, and most guys are dropping 15k or more with support additions that are needed. If Stillen can keep the cost below 10k even with support additions needed it will do just fine I think. |
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i hope the kit stays around 6 grand... i dont think im willing to spend more than that..... maybe... 7... thats DEFINITELY a maybe though...
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my guess.......
Prepare yourself......... $7500+ for a stage 2 intercooled |
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Dreamer: I can't believe your saying 10K... that's definitely getting into TT territory. I'm not saying I can't believe it in a crappy way either. I just don't know much about the pricing on S/C's like this but based on what I have seen in the past I'm kinda shocked you would say a number that high.
This post is getting awfully depressing for me :(... I need to see some numbers |
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Well you have to factor in the custom intake manifold design, this is early design so cost are higher. I could see that maybe in a few years the price slowly coming down, but who knows as I am just speculating. Also, 10k from what I have seen is below TT territory, you might be able to buy a kit from AAM or GTM or others for 10k but that does not mean your car will operate 100%. Many of those kits do not have the extra cooling you will need or other additions you should have, which up the cost.
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ya I know what your sayin...that's why I said "territory" (not tryin to be a smart *** either), just saying, I know what ridiculous prices these people are playin OTD on a TT setup. I'm just jealous lol..
I still think 10 is crazy though. I know most people that I have talked with aren't buying S/C's to spend 10K. I thought it was supposed to be a more affordable option to turbocharging.. maybe I'm a little off.. idk |
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Prospective buyers should keep in mind, the SC kits for the old version of the VQ in the 350 and the G35 weren't all that cheap, and those cars only had one throttle body, more engine bay room, a less complex valvetrain, and the old kits had lower quality components than these newer ones do.
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Bottom line is this just isn't a wallet-friendly car. It's not like a Mustang where the volume is so high a turn-key SC kit runs only $6000, or a CBE only costs $600. We have to shell out some extra dough because we just aren't on that same scale.
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10,000 is high 6,000 is low, my guess after looking at the cost of similar parts is 6,995 for the base non-intercooled option 7,500 for the well equiped intercooled race kit and probably 7,995 for the intercooled + warranty kit
If you built this kit in your garage somehow and only paid parts price and spent half a year fabricating you would still need 5grand to buy the components. 1000 manufacturing labor is nothing for the amount of time it takes to make some of those parts just to give you a clue about it I work at a machine shop and we charge $120 an hour for just basic machining boring bar work is over 200 an hour and there is probably a solid 20 hours in one of those kits. Just thank your lucky stars they don't charge you industrial machine rate. |
i say we play the guessing game and the winner gets a 10% discount from the vender.
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Your all wrong, this is California, the economy sucks and sales are down, this will be $199 installed and we get a free trip to Disneyland :bowrofl:
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plus, i think any serious manufacturer is going to base pricing on what the customers are willing to pay - not what their cost was to make the product... question is, how much more or less we are willing to pay vs FI kits they think they will compete with hate to say it, but I suspect this kit will be just south of $10K installed... I'll be pleasantly surprised if Stillen beats that |
I'd be shocked if its anywhere near that cost.
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When I twin turbod my 06 gto, it was around $10.5k after install, so I'd like to think a single SC would be much less than that. The only reason I mention the GTO is because it's an even lower production car than the Z.
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you know selling for less can net you more as more will be sold. I really think that these companies on forums would make more money if they sold their products for less as they would sell more thhus making more. Sometimes less is more. I for one know that I dont buy as many things as I would like cuz of the prices. I feel with people saying they are willing to pay said amount on these forums that it actually influences the price. I mean if I make something and I see that people will pay 10x then what I was going to charge I would go with what they are saying. I am probably out of the SC game as I wont pay 8K plus install for one, now if I had millions then yes. Guess im down to the HFCs now and I think those are priced to high too. Just my 2 cents and rant. Those that pay Im sure will be pleased. enjoy.
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not when the number of potential buyers is so low
10,000 installed is about right i'm talking kit price for those of us who can do it ourselves Overhead is usually calculated out of machine rate you think they pay me 200 an hour?my guess for the closest wins game is 7500 for intercooler kit price |
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How much weight does the complete package add?
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I'm curious how it could effect handling. I know the horsepower to weight ratio will improve.
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Well 60 lbs ahead of the front axle isn't anything to sneeze at. I'm sure you will notice a difference if you track your car.
If you're really worried about upsetting the balance that much you could compensate by relocating the battery to the rear of the car (someone here has done that). But I think for most of us who aren't competitively tracking, the extra 60lbs up front will not make enough of a difference to go through the trouble of moving things around to get back in balance. |
agree, if your car is just for the street, you are very unlikely to be held back by the weight in either acceleration or cornering/handling... and it can be remedied by shifting weight as described above. check out the weight loss (for your car!) thread for ideas, if you haven't already.
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Kyle: I know you probably have a ton of questions to answer but if you get the time I'm really curious about the following... I was on the GTM S/C thread and these people brought up what looked like some good points to me... I don't know much on here but they seem valid:
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Lookin' great so far IMO... I hope everything is going smoothly and coming along faster than planned! |
...by the way, both of those guys referenced above are new to the forum and seem to me to have better than average technical knowledge... checking their profiles, one of them doesn't even indicate ownership of a 370Z and for both - most/all of their posts are limited to 1 topic... supporting statements for 'the other' SC kit... just making an observation- I think their questions are valid regardless of whether they are simply Z owners or whatever, but I am curious as to their interests in the topic
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lol, I was wondering the same thing... As I said I'm a little new to all of this but someone else mentioned that in the other thread also.. like wondering where their knowledge came from... still seems valid though.. wouldn't mind hearing responses... either way I don't think its going to come down to any of the comments made..Like my daddy always says... Liars always figure and FIGURES DON'T LIE.
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so much for my ninja edit! was trying to tone it down... lol
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lol, there ya go!
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