who else has a saggy stillen front lip?

edub370 · 07-20-2012, 08:03 AM

so i had my stillen lip on my car for about 10 months and in the time frame the middle has sagged enough to look bad so last night i removed it and got some pics

its hard to see in this picture but u can see the lip starting to seperate from the body in the middle of the car (yes, i had it screwed on there.. in 2 spots). it wasn't terrible at this point, but it had steadily gotten worse over the last couple months. kinda started becoming noticeable

heres a pic that kinda shows how far it was seperating. that bug collection on the tape shouldnt be there. if the lip stays straight and doesnt pull away from the bumper exposing the tape

i know a couple people with this lip have had this problem, but i wanna know how broad of a problem this is exactly

DR_ · 07-20-2012, 08:15 AM

Is the plastic deformed now or can you just put on new tape and reinstall it?

edub370 · 07-20-2012, 08:33 AM

plastic deformed causing tape and screws to pull out. u can somewhat see the middle sagging in the first pic

kidkotic2001 · 07-20-2012, 09:17 AM

If it is no longer in the same shape that it should be you can try to use a heat gun make it soft and then try to remold it? I do not know if it can be done but it would be worth a try. I would also try to redo the tape and maybe add two more screws in the middle.

elmz · 07-20-2012, 09:27 AM

That sucks...this is why I held off from purchasing one. I hope you find a fix of some kind.

robones · 07-20-2012, 09:27 AM

LOL hey! I had just commented about this. I have seen this before. It looks like to me the lip causes a good amount of downforce over the nose of the car and its warping the urethane lip over time or the 3M tape is not capable of holding up to the stress levels. I would say the lip cannot be installed with just simple 3M tape and a few screws. I have twelve screws and nuts installed in mine with about 4 inch seperation between all screws and bolts.
Stillen's installation instructions are simple on paper but in order to really install the lip correctly and provide the lip with additional structural regidity, you MUST remove the front bumper and intall the lips with actual screws and nuts inside the bumper.

However, I believe Stillen offers a lifetime warranty for this part. Have you spoken to Stillen yet about his issue?

edub370 · 07-20-2012, 09:37 AM

i have not. may give them a call in a sec. thanks for the tips tho

robones · 07-20-2012, 09:44 AM

No problem OP. Let me know what they say... Keep me posted please.

edub370 · 07-20-2012, 09:50 AM

will do. like i said, i know im not the only on with this issue. it seems to me the screws the provide in the mounting hardware is pretty inadequate

robones · 07-20-2012, 10:02 AM

Yes it is. When I took it to a shop for installation they laughed. The so called "self tapping screws" are worthless. Stillen says this to sell the product as a "simple and quick" installation.
I ended up buying different hardware (nuts and bolts) and used a drill to actually drill the holes. My splitter has held up but I do see a little distortion in the middle of the frame but nowhere near your case.

edub370 · 07-20-2012, 10:09 AM

mine started ever so slightly about 3 months ago and it just gets worse and worse.

its a shame cuz i really liked it

calling them in about 5 min

kenchan · 07-20-2012, 10:15 AM

yah, that's a flimsy piece. can you use larger washers and maybe a metal bracket on the bottom to keep it straight?

edub370 · 07-20-2012, 10:24 AM

possibly could try that. would be a little late on this piece as its already warped. maybe if i get another i can come up with some type of bracing or reinforcement

kenchan · 07-20-2012, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370

possibly could try that. would be a little late on this piece as its already warped. maybe if i get another i can come up with some type of bracing or reinforcement

is it heat that's causing it? if so, can you place it on a flat surface and bake it in the sun or use a heat gun to re-shape it?

robones · 07-20-2012, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

is it heat that's causing it? if so, can you place it on a flat surface and bake it in the sun or use a heat gun to re-shape it?

I personally dont think its the heat but I could be wrong.

The piece is made out of urethane same material as our bumpers. I think it has to do with the wind downforce that's constantly pushing down on the front lip. Underneath middle portion of the splitter, it does not have much skeleton ridges to provide regidity.

07-20-2012, 08:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 19	who else has a saggy stillen front lip? so i had my stillen lip on my car for about 10 months and in the time frame the middle has sagged enough to look bad so last night i removed it and got some pics its hard to see in this picture but u can see the lip starting to seperate from the body in the middle of the car (yes, i had it screwed on there.. in 2 spots). it wasn't terrible at this point, but it had steadily gotten worse over the last couple months. kinda started becoming noticeable heres a pic that kinda shows how far it was seperating. that bug collection on the tape shouldnt be there. if the lip stays straight and doesnt pull away from the bumper exposing the tape i know a couple people with this lip have had this problem, but i wanna know how broad of a problem this is exactly __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

07-20-2012, 08:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 19	plastic deformed causing tape and screws to pull out. u can somewhat see the middle sagging in the first pic __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

07-20-2012, 09:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
kidkotic2001 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 541 Drives: Like Crazy Rep Power: 15	If it is no longer in the same shape that it should be you can try to use a heat gun make it soft and then try to remold it? I do not know if it can be done but it would be worth a try. I would also try to redo the tape and maybe add two more screws in the middle. __________________ ThAt WaS a CrAzY nIgHt

07-20-2012, 09:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 19	i have not. may give them a call in a sec. thanks for the tips tho __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

07-20-2012, 09:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 19	will do. like i said, i know im not the only on with this issue. it seems to me the screws the provide in the mounting hardware is pretty inadequate __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

07-20-2012, 08:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 16	Is the plastic deformed now or can you just put on new tape and reinstall it?

07-20-2012, 09:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	That sucks...this is why I held off from purchasing one. I hope you find a fix of some kind.

07-20-2012, 09:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
robones Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 357 Drives: 2011 - Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 14	LOL hey! I had just commented about this. I have seen this before. It looks like to me the lip causes a good amount of downforce over the nose of the car and its warping the urethane lip over time or the 3M tape is not capable of holding up to the stress levels. I would say the lip cannot be installed with just simple 3M tape and a few screws. I have twelve screws and nuts installed in mine with about 4 inch seperation between all screws and bolts. Stillen's installation instructions are simple on paper but in order to really install the lip correctly and provide the lip with additional structural regidity, you MUST remove the front bumper and intall the lips with actual screws and nuts inside the bumper. However, I believe Stillen offers a lifetime warranty for this part. Have you spoken to Stillen yet about his issue?

07-20-2012, 09:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
robones Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 357 Drives: 2011 - Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 14	No problem OP. Let me know what they say... Keep me posted please.

07-20-2012, 10:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
robones Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 357 Drives: 2011 - Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 14	Yes it is. When I took it to a shop for installation they laughed. The so called "self tapping screws" are worthless. Stillen says this to sell the product as a "simple and quick" installation. I ended up buying different hardware (nuts and bolts) and used a drill to actually drill the holes. My splitter has held up but I do see a little distortion in the middle of the frame but nowhere near your case.

07-20-2012, 10:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 19	mine started ever so slightly about 3 months ago and it just gets worse and worse. its a shame cuz i really liked it calling them in about 5 min __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

07-20-2012, 10:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	yah, that's a flimsy piece. can you use larger washers and maybe a metal bracket on the bottom to keep it straight?

07-20-2012, 10:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 19	possibly could try that. would be a little late on this piece as its already warped. maybe if i get another i can come up with some type of bracing or reinforcement __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

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