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Shotta 07-31-2012 08:46 PM

Stillen should be able to do a redesign to resolve this issue as long as info is getting back to them.

I dont have the lip so am only going by the pictures here but is this something that cam be solved by inserting a piece of alumimum angle bar like someone mentioned but then instead of glassing it in just fill the space inside with high density expandable foam? This would need to be done before it warps if it is even an option.

edub370 08-01-2012 08:04 AM

Talked to stillen and they said i would need to send my lip back in so they could look at it. since my lip recently went back on the car, and i don't have the original box, thats kinda out for the next lil while.

however, if anyone has one they are willing to take off/ if anyone has a way to get one of these lips to stillen they said they are willing to look into it.

who has taken one of these off and is willing to ship it to stillen?

robones 08-01-2012 08:31 AM

Thank you for following up Edub. You put the lip back on? Meaning you fixed the lip yourself? If so, what did you do? Care to explain?
Also, when you say, Stillen "will look into it" will they not replace the part? I thought they had a lifetime warranty for this part should it fail. (I would think warping) falls into this catagory.

Guard Dad 08-01-2012 09:08 AM

Like I said before, use screws with washers and nuts and I don't think you'll have any problems. I'm at eight months and counting with no problems.

edub370 08-01-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 1848758)
Like I said before, use screws with washers and nuts and I don't think you'll have any problems. I'm at eight months and counting with no problems.

Took it off and used bolts and washers as described. worked well. stillens hardware WILL NOT work. no matter how much u try and do it right, there hardware is not adequate.

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Originally Posted by robones (Post 1848725)
Thank you for following up Edub. You put the lip back on? Meaning you fixed the lip yourself? If so, what did you do? Care to explain?
Also, when you say, Stillen "will look into it" will they not replace the part? I thought they had a lifetime warranty for this part should it fail. (I would think warping) falls into this catagory.

stillen said they wanted to examin a warped one to see if it was a flaw in the molding process. they also said they stand behind thier product, and if it did end up being something wrong on their end, that they would replace it.

to mount it correctly, i took the front bumper completely off and used nuts, bolts, and washers. let it sit in my apt over night with 1box of shutgun shells (yeehaw) under the center (warped part) and a box on top of either side of that.. formed it back over night. however, my biggest draw back to sending it, was not having the original box. i have no idea where i would find a box that long and skinny to send it back to them.

has anyone pulled their lip off yet?

fuct 08-01-2012 11:49 AM

looks like the material cant handle the heat/wind! plain and simple.

edub370 08-01-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1849044)
looks like the material cant handle the heat/wind! plain and simple.

this

robones 08-03-2012 03:19 PM

I just bought a pair of splitter support rods as a safety precaution. I will post pictures once installed.

delusional 08-18-2012 04:11 PM

has anyone sent in their sagged lip? im thinking of sending mine in. i took a 7hr road trip. and it has sagged to the point where i can't get out of my garage so i took it off. my car looks so naked now without a front lip :mad:

saqib55 08-18-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MACSIMIZER (Post 1835080)
I have cut a piece of aluminium to go in the center section of my splitter that will act as a brace to straighten it out. Fortunatly I have braces to mount it to, don't know how you could mount it without drilling holes in the lip.

http://www.the370z.com/members/macsi...-ernge-010.jpg

more pictures!! that looks pretty cool

robones 08-18-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by delusional (Post 1875788)
has anyone sent in their sagged lip? im thinking of sending mine in. i took a 7hr road trip. and it has sagged to the point where i can't get out of my garage so i took it off. my car looks so naked now without a front lip :mad:

sorry to hear that. :( mine has not sagged.... yet but I know exactly what you mean. The stock bumper is blah without any mods. you have to have something (lip) to make it look attractive. I dont think I can ever go back to the stock look ever again. :)

delusional 08-18-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by robones (Post 1876107)
sorry to hear that. :( mine has not sagged.... yet but I know exactly what you mean. The stock bumper is blah without any mods. you have to have something (lip) to make it look attractive. I dont think I can ever go back to the stock look ever again. :)

mine wasn't too bad before the trip. but after coming back from the trip it's completely gone. and yeah the stock front is making me really sad :(

RN SHARK 08-24-2012 10:28 PM

This thread makes me sad. Mine has been on for almost a year now, no issues. I'd also go with Ings+ if the Stillen one warps.

RoshDawg 08-26-2012 01:47 AM

I used a massive amount of nuts bolts and washers (especially in the middle). Can't imagine it being more secure, yet it still is sagging in the middle only after a few weeks, however I believe it is the actual bumper itself that is constantly being pulled lower and thus deforming.
Hey MACSIMIZER where and what dimensions are those rods you got? Any info on that would be much appreciated.

mantella87 09-10-2012 06:10 PM

Mine has been on over a year with no problems. But I see the lip sagging in other pictures more often than not. I kind of regret getting this lip. The screws should have been the first warning sign, what a joke! I can't believe Stillen is telling you to send the lip to them as if they don't believe you! They need to get on this forum and spend a couple minutes looking at pictures from their customers. That is ridiculous! There are multiple examples here on this forum from different climates and driving styles. A common trend I have noticed is that the members who have a sagging lip are on lowering springs/coilovers. Perhaps the lower ride height is allowing more air to act upon the lip. When I get the money, I will be replacing this splitter with another lip. This is unacceptable and I know it will happen to mine eventually.

robones 09-10-2012 08:08 PM

Replace it when it warps but until then enjoy the most functional, light weight, durable, relatively low profile, cost effective splitter for our cars. I truly love my lip but like you, I have fears about it warping at times. Driving at highways for extended periods of time like a past poster wrote. It sucks that you don't feel 100% confident on the product. It may very well be installers fault on why certain lips warp but can you blame them if they followed manufactures recommendations and used the kits hardware? All I can say with complete certainty is that you CANNOT use Stillen's hardware for installation.

Stillen may have a design problem as I don't think it's the actual material. Urethane is highly durable, light weight and sturdy. Our bumpers are made out of it and you don't see those warping overtime.

mantella87 09-11-2012 07:14 AM

I like the lip a lot, it's simple and clean. Aesthetically, it's great. I'll definitely enjoy it until it warps, if it ever does. Mine is installed with about 12 rivets. I don't think the installation is causing the warping for every "victim" here. I remember when I was handling the lip prior to install, it was bending everywhere and behaved like a flimsy piece of plastic, hardly any rigidity. Now if Stillen makes a carbon fiber edition of this very same lip, they can take my money!

edub370 09-11-2012 07:49 AM

well that would first require stillen to actually get on the forums and communicate with customers......

they really need to provide different mounting hardware with the kit

mantella87 09-11-2012 09:39 AM

It's kind of disappointing considering their intakes are so highly acclaimed...

robones 09-11-2012 09:57 AM

Agreed. Also, If mine warps, I will be replacing it with the Evo-R carbon fiber 3 piece lip. That's the second best, low profile, affordable lip in the market IMO.

mantella87 09-11-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by robones (Post 1911203)
Agreed. Also, If mine warps, I will be replacing it with the Evo-R carbon fiber 3 piece lip. That's the second best, low profile, affordable lip in the market IMO.

I really like the Top Secret CF lip. Plus, it looks like it would cover up the same surface area as the Stillen lip, so you wouldn't be left with marks from the splitter.

leeyeegue 09-14-2012 07:28 AM

any updates on this? I am thinking of removing it all for good LOL I have coke cans in the garage to hold it up after each day of driving.......

what do you guys think? does it actually look good enough to deal with the trouble?

robones 09-14-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by leeyeegue (Post 1915839)
any updates on this? I am thinking of removing it all for good LOL I have coke cans in the garage to hold it up after each day of driving.......

what do you guys think? does it actually look good enough to deal with the trouble?

Get support rods which may aid with your problem instead of coke cans. Show us a recent picture of your lip to see if it looks bad or not? Some members expirience a slight bend right in the middle which you can live with, but if the bend is severe enough or its oddly warped then its no good. :tiphat:

leeyeegue 09-14-2012 09:42 AM

I'll get a picture later. Since i support it every night in the garage, it's not bad, but its just annoying LOL... I heard braces won't even work...

robones 09-14-2012 10:09 AM

Of course braces will work, its the "reverse" support of your coke can solution. I am not sure you told you it wouldn't.

Just as long as you place the rods where the lip is at its weakest, then you should be ok.

leeyeegue 09-14-2012 10:21 AM

MACSIMIZER told me lol he has braces.

MACSIMIZER 09-14-2012 10:29 AM

The problem with this lip is the middle section where they removed material for looks. If they would have left it thick all the way across there would be no issues. I was going to work on my aluminuim support for the underside yesterday after I installed my new front rotors but didn't get around to it. I will post some pics when it gets installed.

robones 09-14-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MACSIMIZER (Post 1916239)
The problem with this lip is the middle section where they removed material for looks. If they would have left it thick all the way across there would be no issues. I was going to work on my aluminuim support for the underside yesterday after I installed my new front rotors but didn't get around to it. I will post some pics when it gets installed.

I agree with you completely. There is no skeleton regidity in the middle section which may cause the warping.

I went to Home Depot and bought an aluminium L shaped sheet that I plant to install underneath the lip and bolt on with the rods. This will provide all the regidity the lip needs.

edub370 09-14-2012 12:53 PM

I'll be awaiting the results of this aluminum bracket idea. could be a cheap solution

mantella87 09-14-2012 02:49 PM

Yeah you can definitely feel where it has the potential to sag just by running your hand across the lip.

leeyeegue 09-14-2012 06:21 PM

Looks so good though... Tempting but I just can't remove it lol

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717

mantella87 09-14-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeyeegue (Post 1917212)
Looks so good though... Tempting but I just can't remove it lol

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717

It does look awesome! It's one of the few lips that isn't crazy looking. Subtle and clean.

cdoxp800 09-14-2012 08:24 PM

Man I hate saggy lips .

MACSIMIZER 09-14-2012 08:27 PM

Roast Beef curtains.

Joepro 09-15-2012 10:17 PM

Forgive my noobness, Im new to aero mods,I like this lip too,will have to see about modding it. I have a silly question tho...are you guys painting these lips or just put them on unpainted? I want to do this lip, evo side blades and shineauto rear add ons(paint match) but want the lip and blades black,if Ido not have to paint them that would be great.

leeyeegue 09-15-2012 11:15 PM

I didn't paint. I like the frp black.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717

RoshDawg 09-16-2012 12:18 AM

i thought stillen had quality products. even with sooooo many nuts and bolts, my front lip is sagging VERY noticeably. need to get splitter braces asap

gaveup 09-16-2012 03:18 AM

Mine did it too. I wrote them and called. They said they didn't know about it.

I just took it off until I have time to take the bumper off.

scottIN 09-16-2012 05:48 AM

Mounted mine yesterday (after having it for about 7 months). First thing I did was to take a 40" long piece of 1/2" wide aluminum and epoxied it into the underside. Roughed up the lip a bit to give it some tooth and then spread a coat and bedded it in. Then went back and completely 'wrapped' the aluminum in epoxy. Used an entire tube of the two-part epoxy. It ain't pretty, but I can't imagine it sagging now.

MACSIMIZER 09-16-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottIN (Post 1918611)
Mounted mine yesterday (after having it for about 7 months). First thing I did was to take a 40" long piece of 1/2" wide aluminum and epoxied it into the underside. Roughed up the lip a bit to give it some tooth and then spread a coat and bedded it in. Then went back and completely 'wrapped' the aluminum in epoxy. Used an entire tube of the two-part epoxy. It ain't pretty, but I can't imagine it sagging now.

Nice, got any pics?


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