i'll test drive both the scion and subaru when they come out and then decide if i hate it or not. all the pictures so far have been too concept-like and i dont think they represent what the final product's going to look like.

if it looks like a Tc, then forget it. looks too cheap to me. i dont need another Fit looking car.

I like the agressive front, how do you think it will look on a Z?

Production version is gonna be out at the Tokyo Auto Show in December. They say a few months later in the spring for showroom.

Looks more like a G than a Z in the midsection to me, front end (of concept photos) looks more like a baby LFA.

the LFA was definitely a car they wanted to emulate.

Kind of how the 2013 concepts of Lotus' look like baby lambo's... I like. :tup:

lol but yeah, toyotas strategy is kinda like (sad to say) kias strategy: if it works for another company, try it. just look at the new camry. not necessarily a bad thing, and theyve been doing it for years, but theyre really starting to do it more and more lately

meh. i got the Z to be my sporty car.

i'm gonna end up picking up the WRX hatch, or i might go back down to the 2012 impreza 2.0i hatch.

In 36 hours this will change again... lil miss indecisive over here... :rofl2:

lol my dad was the same way. first he wanted a new 7 series, then he wanted a porsche, then he wanted a lambo, then he want an M3, then he wanted a 6 series, then he wanted an m5, then he wanted a corvette, brought one home for the day, next morning he said he didnt want it, and came back home that night having bought it. lol

:bowrofl:

haha, you know his summer-time nick name. :icon18:

He'll always be PhePhe or My Lil Twinkie to me. :tup:

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I'm very interested in getting one as well... they claim it will have the lowest center of gravity on a production car ever. Should handle incredibly well.

I just hope it looks close to either ver. 1 or ver. 3.

Would get the Subie variant if offered with AWD or turbo... but doesn't seem to be happening.