Forum Vendor has Rear Fog Light and CF Front Emblem!
 

:excited: 370Z Source is now selling the 370Z rear fog light and a CF Front Emblem! :tup:

A member here has seen the CF front emblem in person and provided feedabck on this thread: Don't Buy This

My question for this is, do we just pop off the black out panel and there are wires setup for us?

The wires, are to be done by us since we have no fog light switch on our turn signal stalk. I was thinking about the vacant switch on the center console, but would like to get a factory, or factory matching switch to the heated seats switches, in order to activate the fog light.

That's what I was thinking as well. Any idea if the third switch is used for anything on the JDM Z?

I think that further in time, it will cost cheaper. I think that it is kind of overpriced right now. but that is my opinion.

dont we already have this setup without the lens cover? Seams like we should should just be able to replace the lens cover. The box and the wiring harness already seam to be there.

Isnt that CF front emblem just a side marker cover with a CF surround?

shhhh

haha

Looks too big to replace the front emblem, too bulky.

x2

I think the emblems will look good on a PG with carbon side mirrors, pillars and rear spoiler.

Right now the Nissan rings are the only chrome and they stand out. The wheels and door handles are brushed and I want to have no chrome.

I dig the Fog setup but I'm just not feeling the CF emblems. Good for some, not for me though.

MC1,

Hmmmm...that would save us a bit of money!

so any update on how we can install this rear fog light?

Yes, it is. I went down to the store to purchase one, I live pretty close to the shop.
They just didn't look good in person IMO. It would have been better if they didn't have the lens markings on the plastic. Doesn't look like a finished piece. I'm going to wait for something else.

But I thought this is OEM from Japan? I called them and spoke to them today.

I don't think so, it sure didn't look OEM to me, I can't imagine them gluing the Z side marker (the actual side marker) to an irregular shaped piece of carbon and putting 2 strips of double sided tape on the back. very disappointing.

Yes, I took mine apart today to look at it. Basically, in place of an actual rear fog lamp, we have a "reflector" (a very poor one) mounted on a box that's the same size/shape a real lamp. There's also already factory wiring coming from the same harnesses as the rest of the rear lighting. The plug is plugged into a dummy socket next to the reflector box, to hold it there in place. Presumably one could buy the real fog lamp unit from the JP/EU models and just plug this connector into it.

The big question mark is: where does the other end of that pair of wires go? I pulled out the little area in the center console that has the cup holder and heated seat switches (empty center switch bay there) - there's no "unused" connectors laying around anywhere obvious under there, so it's not pre-wired to that area. There are no unused control settings on our left stalk that might be prewired to it. I'm lost as to what they did with the other end of the wires.

Most likely, assuming the EU one is controlled from the stalk (can anyone confirm this?), it's probably wired to the harness connector for the stalk, but our stalk just doesn't use those pins, or those wires are simply cut off in the vicinity of the steering column.

Yes, it is controlled from a rotating inner switch on the turn signal stalk that is not on our cars:

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When I installed the illuminated door sills I learned that the harnesses are not complete, but car specific. Mostly likely the dummy plug does go to a legit wiring part of the rear harnesses, but no farther.

Hmm that kinda sucks. So we'll need to find exactly where the other end of the existing wiring is, and figure out easy or hard it would be to route this to the center console's unused switch area I bet, and then find a matching switch. We could probably order replacement heated seat switches, figure out a pin mapping that works, and then carefully modify the labellling on them. I don't know why they left this off. I've never had a rear fog lamp, but after reading up on it, it sounds really useful to me in heavy fog conditions (which are very common early in the morning in TX, especially out of town).

Nissan has done a great job of routing the harnesses on the 370Z so finding the lead and getting to a user installed switch should be achievable without too much grief.

Ok, I just did some preliminary research on this in the Service Manual and by digging around in the appropriate places in the car. It appears that the rear fog lamp circuit is fully wired all the way to the Body Control Module (BCM). The BCM is basically a small CPU unit separate from the main ECU that resides down at the bottom of the outer side of the passenger footwell that handles a lot of little body electrical things like wipers, map lights, flashers, headlights, foglights, etc. BCM is covered in the "BCS.pdf" section of the Service Manual.

Pin 24 on connector M120 of the BCM has an orange wire plugged into it which drives the fog light with a 12V signal directly (diagram is on pg 52 of BCS.pdf). I haven't confirmed this with a continuity tester or anything yet, but it's not likely that it's disconnected anywhere in the middle.

Odds are high that if you put a light back there and swapped in the Canadian version of the headlight/wiper control sticks module, it would Just Work, or worst case, would need some programming a dealer could do to enable the fog light.

Alternatively (more likely what I'll try to do), it would be easy to snip the orange wire near the BCM connector and run it to that unused center console switch area.

This is exactly the area where you wire-in the illuminated doors sills. The issue is that pin 24 might be vacant. However, the harness run is through metal protecting clips with room to spare so even if there is no occupied pin or wire it is a straight shot to the block.

It's not vacant, that's what I checked. As stated in the SM, there actually is an orange wire coming off of the body wiring harness plugged into pin 24 there.

This is interesting. Slightly off topic. I wonder if the same BCM controls the JDM heated mirrors, and if so is it pre-wired for those? For me not having to manually wipe down my mirrors is more important than a rear fog light. Although the fog light does cover the butthole.

There is already mention of heated mirrors in the North American Service Manual:

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Maybe I am over simplifying this but why wouldnt you just wire it inline with your parking lamps or brake lights? The wires are already ran you just tap into them! Seems a little easier to me and it wont run your battery down when your in a hurry and forget to turn of a switch mounted on your center console.

Because a rear fog light is *not* supposed to be on all the time. You only turn it on when you're actually in very low visibility situations, like dense fog. With normal visibility it will annoy and confuse other drivers, it will be at least as bright as a lit up brake light, possibly moreso.

Oh and as for the switch, I'm planning to wire it to an ignition-controlled power source, so there won't be any concern about leaving it on to drain the battery.

Either way yall decide to do it I think its a great idea and should have been left on all models regardless of where they are destined for. Hell Nissan could have toted it as another safety feature exclusive to them here in the US.

I've only used the fogs (very bright) on my Cooper S about 1/2 a dozen times in the last year, mainly in the rain, don't think I've ever been in the fog with it.

So my thoughts with the Z is too put in a lower watt bulb (same strength as tails) so that it's on all the time. And if at all possible maybe wire it up into the brake assembly. This way it works just like a 3rd tail light. I think this is a unique signature of the 370, having it on all the time will offer the best rear visibility for safety on any night. Otherwise, I think I may just purchase the Nismo rear diffuser and do away with it all together. :tup:

I almost guarantee there is probably a regulation that requires lighting to be a certain height off the ground or something, and this may break that regulation being so low...

I think you guys are exemplifying why they left it out of the US model :p

It's not a brake light, it's not a tail-light, it's not an OMFG Look At My Car Dude light, it's a Fog Light. You don't want it on at other times, only in low visibility conditions.

Some people are obsessed with anything you cant have normally. I wouldnt be surprised if some people in Japan seriously want to black it out for a more "stealth" look lol.

Does that mean we have heated mirrors in our NA cars. If so, do they come on with the defrost button or heated back window button? Very interesting as it had been previously stated that we don't have heated rear view mirrors in NA nor is it mentioned in sales brochure.

No, we do not have it in our current NA model 370Zs. It looks to be a precursor of options to come.

Well, I've actually ordered the rear fog light from the Z Store...as they are out of stock (there are apparently coming from Japan) it will be 3-4 weeks before I actually have it in hand with a chance to install.

I'm not sure where I'm going to wire it yet but I'm probably going to try using the installed harness with a rocker switch in the center counsol so that I can control when it's on...I'd say this is a good option to have in pre-dawn and twilight conditions as well as fog.

I'll let you all know how it turns out!

I ordered the fog light wiring harness from Japan. Not sure how it works.
Will let you know when I get it.

Michael

Our wiring harness in the US is already set up for the fog light. It's run all the way from the fake unit in the rear to the BCM module up in the passenger footwell. We just don't have the switch on our steering column to turn it on (or the actual bulb/unit at the back).

This will be an aftermarket harness made for the US models.

Michael

Any update on this thread?

looks like no updates yet. can't believe it takes this long for some store to figure out on selling and installing this item, it's rediculous, it's just a small rear fog light at the back :mad: